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Speak Out 8/10/07

Friday, August 10, 2007

Roll back taxes

SINCE THE Cape Girardeau School District is awash in money, it must be time to roll back property taxes.

Ready for TRCC

I'M HAPPY Three Rivers Community College is opening a campus in Cape Girardeau. Both my children went to a community college before moving up to a larger university. A lot of children need that opportunity.

Less sun energy

A RECENT Speak Out comment ridiculed "An Inconvenient Truth" by stating: "The energy output of our sun has been increasing for several decades. Real scientists know this." This person needs to see the BBC report that just came out from "real scientists" proving that the energy output of our sun has been decreasing for 20 years. Those who don't see that climate-change is real use made-up arguments, which is why Al Gore's film is so aptly titled.

Space defense

NASA IS a joke. NASA is a place where we can cut the budget. The benefits of space should be under the auspices of the Department of Defense. If space exploration is profitable, free enterprise would be more involved in it.

Good old school days

RETIRED TEACHERS always think schooling was better in the good old days when they first began teaching or even better when they were in school themselves or, best of all in, the 1950s and earlier when many schools districts practiced de facto or de jure racial segregation.

One size fits all

NOW LET me get this straight. Cape Girardeau is only big enough for one college. Following that logic you would only need one bank.

They're taking over

COLD WAR anti-communists tried to convince us that the communists would undermine and take over from within our country rather than attacking us. Have they, decades later, had their heretofore discredited theory proven correct as a result of tainted Doras, Elmos, jewelry, toothpaste and Lord knows what else, all coming from China?

Taking our rights

A RECENT comment either misread or misinterpreted the editorial on the smoking bans in Illinois. The "equally onerous" did not refer to smoking, but to the fact that our governments are taking away the rights of individuals and businesses. For those who agree the government should control such things, consider how you might feel when the government, for our "protection," makes laws banning some of the things you believe should be individual choice. Can't think of anything? Think again.

Bleeding hearts

ONE OF the Speak Out bloggers, commenting on Project Hope, noted a co-worker in construction who is undergoing chemo treatments for cancer while his family is trying to survive on mainly the wife's income. This is why so many of us feel the bleeding-heart syndrome in America is way off base. We offer little or no help for those who are hard-working but through no fault of their own are struggling to make ends meet. With a little assistance, this particular family might make it, but they will get no help until they are out on the streets, totally destitute, and even then help will be questionable. How shameful that rewards generally only go to those who could have done better with a little effort on their part. I assume this blogger was speaking of my youngest son, who has worked hard since he was a teenager and who worries more about his three children having to suffer than about his own suffering. God bless this country, which ignores the tragedies of such people while accepting accolades for helping "the poor." We need the blessings, for sure.

Comparing costs

I THINK the real story is how SIU is okay with John A Logan Community College right down the road, but Southeast Missouri State University has a fit whenever anyone even brings the topic up. Shawnee Community College tuition is $100 per credit hour, Mineral Area College is $103 per credit hour, SEMO is about $170 per credit hour. No rocket science needed there.

Paying for mistakes

LET ME get this straight. Our taxes paid for a new courthouse, and now our taxes are paying for the mistakes made by the people who came up with the concept, designed the building and then built it? Here's a better idea: Tear the thing down and give the taxpayers who paid for the ridiculous thing a refund. We need a new courthouse like our humidity needs a boost. Who's dumb idea was this?

Affordable art

THOSE WHO think we need high-priced artwork at the new federal courthouse can pay for it out of they own pockets. People will be talking more about the mistakes made in its construction. If you really want art, hang frames that can rotate art work from local schoolchildren. Give them their moment to shine and teach them not to live beyond their budget.

Book discussion

SOUTHEAST Missourian blogger Julia Jorgensen has chosen the book "And God Answered" by the late Jean Bell Mosley for an online book discussion over the next several weeks. Mrs. Mosley was raised on a farm in the Lead Belt region of Missouri. Rural life, writing, the humorous, serious and sometimes tragic aspects of her life, discussion of important historical events and the serenity resulting from a never wavering religious belief are some of the many themes of Mrs. Mosley's memoir. Log on and join the discussion.

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Hey Mickey, with your belief system, how do you ever get into a car, elevator, eat any food or drink water? You must know that someone is out to get you. In your opinion is, say 90 -- 95 % of the people, just stupid and the 5 -- 10 % like you, are the only thinkers? Caution ranting to follow!!

-- Posted by Solelicious on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 5:02 AM

to "Comparing costs" and "One Size Fits All":

I don't think comparing SIU to SEMO is a great comparison. Firsst off, which SIU are you talking about? SIU is more like the UM system. It's a number of universities rather than just one. Second if you are talking about either Edwardsville or Carbondale they are both much largest universities than SEMO is.

As for the college system being equivalent to a bank there are other things involved with it. If the college was the same size as an individual bank building then I would get your point but a college has many more costs associated with it (and I'm talking primarily in terms of the professors, library and dorm rooms than anything else) than a bank would. It's like calling a car a bicycle.

-- Posted by AtheneBelle on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 6:16 AM

Less Sun Energy -

I think you have just proved the point of the doubters. There is no scientific consensus, although it is reported that way, that global warming is actually a problem. You have scientists who think it is real, those who don't, those who think it is cyclic, and those who think it is man made. The alarmist have jumped on the man made band wagon and tend to try to discredit anybody with a different opinion. Personally, I am in the cyclic boat and don't there is really much we can do about it.

-- Posted by bigdaddy200 on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 6:36 AM


You hit the nail on the head about MJB! He doesn't like to be "outed". LOL He has not taken his medication today...you will have to forgive him.

-- Posted by pookiebear on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 7:09 AM

Gonna be a good discussion today. Those with facts and truths against those name callers, neo-con talking point lemmings, and I just like to say something even if I don't have any facts to back up what I have to say.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 7:53 AM

Good Morning Mike Ballou!!

See it happen just like We said it would. If you cry wolf to many times no body will listen. Today MJB puts up a very thought worthy post and the naysayers badger him for doing it. You have short circuited their brains with your postings Mike, The feeble minded must soak up information much slower than any sponge. Far be it for me to give you any more advice than I already have because frankly you have really got under my skin in the past too. BUT!! If you just turn down the volume just about 3 notches you will have a much better response when you put up a posting such as the one about General Butler. Keep them coming Mike I'm still here and I'm always looking for a good wrestling match.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:08 AM

Looks as if another moral majority good ole boy is gonna bite the dust. Pleads guilty, wonder what kind of Republican deal has been cut. If greed don't get them, the sex angle always does. How is Rush gonna spin this? Bet Clinton had something to do with Mr. Coopers problems, he made him do it.

-- Posted by lvsholeflow on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:09 AM

Cape is only big enough for one college.....because Cape only acknowledges one college. Metro Business College is supposed to be education as well, only no one wanted to hire me after I graduated from there salutatorian of my class with a 3.97 GPA because no business in Cape recognizes their insitution as "official education". So now 19 years later, I'm still paying my student loan for education that was of no use to me. Guaranteed job placement my butt!

-- Posted by taxpayer on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:19 AM

Less Sun Energy:

What a crock!! I have been all over the net and scanned most every piece of print that I could find concerning Al Gore's movie. Simply put many scientist in the public and private sector's believe that we are going through a Solar event not a global event. The proof is in what lies beyond our earth. MARS!!

The polar ice caps on Mars have been shrinking at an alarming rate for over a decade (do your homework). The worlds power grids and communication satellites are having problems Daily due to spikes and solar flares on the suns surface (if there is a surface) Global warming is yet another money grabbing attempt by the liberal governments of the west to make you pay an energy consumption tax. Wake up and do your home work.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:21 AM

If anyone is interested in the global warming debate follow this link then let me know what your thoughts are.


-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:39 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great _Global_Warming_Swindle

Sorry it wouldnt fit on the page.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:42 AM

MJB what is the number one reason companies are sending jobs over seas? TAXES! Our countries is becoming one of the least buisness friendly quickly because of OVER TAXATION!

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 8:53 AM

I am so happy for SEMO, having their BIG classes this year. My daughter was suppose to go to SEMO, then we woke up and smelled the roses, learned it was NOT as good of school as University of Phoenix online. Oh, this is a much better school. Check It Out. No parking troubles, no gas prices to and from school. No Paying for the River Campus when she would never use it. I recommend you check it out.

-- Posted by ITSADOGSWORLDFULLAFUN on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:02 AM

Whats that you say!! Polar caps on MARS. But I thought that they (NASA) were still trying to prove that there was water on Mars!!

Yes they are still trying to keep the money coming in because they (NASA) and your elected officials know that you have forgot what happen yesterday much less whats been happening for the last 3 decades in space exploration. Just refer to the findings of the Hubble Telescope.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:09 AM

University Of Phoenix is no better than the Evelyn Wood speed reading for the blind school you fool.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:13 AM


Sorry I tried but I cant seem to get any trouble started today.

Better luck tomarrow I hope.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:16 AM

Isnt it wonderful how our represented officials find a way to get around the immigration laws by setting up phony companies to bring illegals into the country, the trucking companies are just as guilty as the elected official(wasnt he a red stater????).

-- Posted by changedname on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:17 AM

The preceding message brought to you from The University of Phoenix...

University of Phoenix : The Freshmaker!

-- Posted by Tarantulas on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:19 AM

Millersville, you and your daughter are probably going to be in for a nasty shock in a few years. You may think that the online University of Phoenix is better than SEMO, but eventually she's going to find out what the people out in the "real world" think of UofP.

Your citing parking and not having to buy gas as the criteria for choosing a college is sad; with your thinking, UofP is better than Yale, Harvard, etc!

Remember, if something is too good to be true, it isn't. Your too-good-to-be-true daughter's "education" is just that and I feel sorry for your daughter.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:21 AM


I don't mean to try and answer for Mike Ballou but the main reason that company's are leaving the USA is not taxes.

Its because the people in third world countries will do your job for .25 cents an hour when Americans keep crying that they need their rich bosses to give more to them.

Did you realize that GM spent more money last year on retirement benefits than they did on materials to make your cars and suvs the American worker got greedy with all their right to organize unions and they complained themselves out of a job.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:37 AM

U of P is a joke! Start sending your tuition checks to me and I'll print you out a "diploma". It will get you farther than a U of P "degree."

-- Posted by Rodney King on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 9:41 AM

Millersville: I guess you didn't read those links I posted last time you bragged about University of Phoenix.

If it's so wonderful why do only 4% of online students graduate with a degree? 96% of their students end up paying thousands for credits that will not transfer to any other college.

A community college can be a wonderful choice for the first two years or to get an associates degree. UOP, ITT, Devry, Metro Business College, etc... all the for-profit colleges are basically scams setup to collect as much financial aid money as possible. The vast majority of their students end up burdened with heavy debts and no degree. Those that do stick it out graduate with degrees that most employers consider worthless along with even heavier debt loads.

-- Posted by Nil on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 10:12 AM

Am I missing something...did not the contractor have to bid to build the courthouse. Did his/her contract not specify that certain criteria were to be met?

Are contractors not liable when they don't fulfill contractual agreements????Why are you and I having to pay but the contractor has no responsibility for construction mistakes????

By the way who is this contractor?????

-- Posted by walela on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 10:25 AM

One of my friends is doing her RN nursing degree on line for the University of Phoenix.I worry about that.Everything she has said to me almost sounds to good to be true.And as the old saying goes if it sounds to good to be true than most likely it isnt.I also worry how her degree is going to stand in the real world later on down the road.Almost like you are buying a degree in a box.All that money & time spent on nothing.

-- Posted by CARDS42 on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 10:26 AM

Now wait a cotton picken minute yal,

NASA is very important.Space is the new frontier!Its Mans need to explore.You know,

"To go where no Man has gone before"!I will say that back in 1969, I found that using LSD (microdots and window pain)got me into space much quicker and certainly less expensive.Oh now those were the good ole days!And for those of you who do no believe in God well,he is out there I saw him.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:12 AM

Dexterite, the foreign nationals involved in Nathan scheme, were here legally, not illegally.

-- Posted by interesting on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:49 AM

Greywolf, I bet you did!!

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:50 AM


You are like, so high, man.

-- Posted by Tarantulas on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:51 AM

Greywolf, played Black Sabbath at 78 speed? :)

Space exploration is important to me as it can help scientists get a better handle on what everything is and how everything started. I guess I tipped my hand on religion there, but so be it. We can indeed explore space and fund important research economically if we re-evaluated how we spend our tax money. I'd love for even 10% of the money we have spent on the war so far to go to cancer, diabetes or some other nasty disease research.

And no, taxes on corporations is not the main reason jobs have left the US, its the price of labor and the laws they can skirt in other countries. Sure, they certainly break the law left and right here too, but it's much easier to get away with stuff in a place where the divided between have and have-nots is even greater. Proportionally, the people gaining the most by sending jobs out of country already get the most tax breaks. It's all about greed.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:53 AM


Recommended reading for you today is a book entitled "The High Frontier" by Gerard O'Neill, (published by William Morrow, 1977). This book "established O'Neill as spokesman for the people in many countries who believe that the settlement of space can bring tremendous benefits to humanity and that this is too important a business to be left in the hands of national governments."

So, who was the late Gerard O'Neill? "As an experimental physicist, he invented and developed the technology of storage rings that is now the basis of all high energy particle accelerators. As a teacher and writer, he explored the possibilities of human settlement and industrial development on the Moon and in orbiting space colonies. As an entrepreneur, he founded several companies to develop new commercial technologies, ranging from a cheap satellite navigation system (Geostar) and a secure short-range office communication system (Lawn) to a high-speed train system."

As a matter of fact, everyone should read this book. Then you will see that NASA and the mission to Mars is bull hockey compared to what they could be doing.

-- Posted by Hawker on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 1:04 PM

We looked for you at Global today MJB. Catch you next week I guess!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 1:11 PM

I will second the High Frontier. Great book!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 1:12 PM

Submitted for your approval:

Pro-Bush journalist's idea of what needs to happen to get folks behind the war and improve Bush's poll numbers.



-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 1:17 PM

Hilleco: When was the last time you saw an automobile go down in price. There is no different price between a GM product which is produced in Mexico, Canada or the United States. Just a thought.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 3:38 PM

I don't know Jumpinjehova,Black Sabbath's first album was ok but I prefered King Krimson and Uriah Heep.Frankly speaking,as you all know I will,I wish LSD was still available and all our politicians did it on a daily bases.Perhaps then the world would be a safer place to call home.Hey at least

it isn't addicting.Oh and by the way ya'l

I inhale too!Well,at least I tell the truth.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 3:44 PM

By the way,Canned Heat was a darn good band too."Rockin'with the King" comes to mind.

Yes canned heat,you would win the bet pal!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 3:50 PM

Greywolf: You are a sly fox too.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 3:54 PM

Thanks Cannedheat,you made me laugh.

Great come back.Just thought this place needed a bit of lightning up.Now I did not say "light up" but I probably will any freakn' minute now.Oh and by the way"less sun energy" Fyi, the sun has been loosing its energy since the nano second it was created!It is a well known fact even among old head freaks like me that in the next billion or so years the sun(the mother of this planet) will in fact super nova itself, and us right out of this solar system!

Put that in your Captain Kirk and smoke it a while..tgif

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 4:41 PM

jumpinjehova, that link you provided is scary, **** scary, to say the least. I thought the slant was more on pulling the country together, but whatever. You have to wonder how some of these guys sleep at night. I agree... WOW

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 4:47 PM

Greywolf: I recommend "Uncanned: The Best of Canned Heat". Has your song on disc 2.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 4:54 PM

A Univ. is only as good as it's teachers. SEMO has a few great ones and some not so great. But to miss out on the whole colege experience because of gas money??? Not on your life.

-- Posted by calypso12 on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 6:52 PM

Just like I said they will build it for .25 cents per hour. And I did it with only 22 words.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 10:01 PM

GM is just SUCKING...

If you want made in America buy a toyota.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 10:06 PM


Did you forget that you never give away information the way that you did earlier today. You just gave them your name , rank and serial number when you registered to post here. For your own interests we don't need to know about your extracurricular activities. Pull yourself together man.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:04 PM


You can take my advice too. We don't care what your vices are. But others that may be reading today do. Loose lips sink ships!!

-- Posted by Piledriver on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:09 PM

I can see that Mr. Ballou has had another busy day. I think you should practice what you preach. You say that you are a constitutionalists but you don't practice democracy. More people on this site have asked you to quit or at least limit your 700 word rants than have taken your side on the issue, YET you simply ignore them. You have been voted down and refuse the wishes of your peers and continue the crap. WHY?

Please make it short.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:21 PM

Mr Ballou:

Is there any topic that you don't know every thing about?? You seem to be very knowledgeable and I was wondering, Did you get your education at the University of Phoenix??

-- Posted by Piledriver on Fri, Aug 10, 2007, at 11:29 PM


I just returned from Dallas and, consequently, I am way too tired to take a look at all of those links tonight. Surprisingly, I am interested. Am I flip-flopping? Well, this was my first flight after all of the 9/11 rules were put into effect and let me say flying is downright scary right now. The TSA officers do perform their jobs and all, but it is staggering to imagine all of the items that a terrorist can carry on board. Anything nonmetallic that someone can conceal on their person is fair game--and that's just the beginning as most of us are well aware of. There are electronics available throughout the cabin that can be used as a detonator.

\/ Exhausted and most probably delusional.

-- Posted by ynot on Sat, Aug 11, 2007, at 12:31 AM

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