Well, Obama said that he is proposing that any one wanting to go to a community college and work for it that the tuition will not cost the student a dime that it will be free. There is nothing free some one has to pay for it, just like the 60 billion dollars he gave away for Pell grants and that money came out of the stimulus funding and over half of these students didn't even graduate and were not required to pay back the grant money they received from the tax payer. Same thing will happen with this community college funding which by the way will cost the tax payers 80 billion dollars over a ten year period. Education is an industry where big money is made these colleges make their money any more off of the government which the government is the tax payers of this country that work hard every day and play by the rules. We have thrown more money at the educational system then any other country in the world and were not even ranked number one any more when it comes to education in the world, we have kids that can't even fill out a job application properly some college kids that is. It is like a Senator said back about 15 years ago when this topic was brought up he said "we just cannot continue to throw money at a problem". I'm against this program because we are a country that is over 18 trillion dollars in debt already and we just keep stacking it on sooner or later the old can runs out of room and we cannot kick it down the road any more and everything stops when that happens. We must have accountability in these educational programs and track all of this money and where it is going to and for what it is being spent for.
swamp - several times Obama has talked about forgiving college loans altogether for certain "people". $18 trillion in debt and all obama and Common can come up with are more giveaways.
Swamp, I would have no problem if a local school district got approval from the tax payers to fund a 13th grade of some sort of hands on job training. I think that would be more beneficial than baby sitting called preschool. Where we are now is part of the cradle to grave control of the citizens, a bread and circus goal attained by those that have climbed the ladder of elitism via the progressive ideology supported by the blind followers of the promise of something for nothing.
We have to get a handle on this excessive spending when it comes to education of course the politicians use the term all the time in order to gain votes they use to use social security also but since they broke that fund they are now on the education bandwagon. Don't get me wrong I'm for education but use the money in the right places and require accountability what this money is being spent for and keep it on the local level. More focus needs to be on Voc/Tech schools where students can learn a trade such as operating heavy equipment, lineman, pipe fitters, plumbers, carpenters, havac, truck drivers, electricians, plus many more professional trades to many to mention upon graduation these students can make a decent living instead of going four years and ending up working at McDonald's flipping hamburgers. I do not believe the burden should be placed on the backs of the tax payers if a person wants to go to school to further advance their education they need to pay for it like we did back in day by working various jobs and saving money for college and stop so many of these student loans offered by the government it just bury's our young people in debt which takes them years to dig out.
Right now about anybody that can pass a drug test can get a job trucking. They will train them free. One of our biggest problems is "Lazy".
Priorities,folks. Soetoro only has a couple of years to finish the reparations plan.
Good point Regret because a guy just told me over the weekend who drives a truck over the road that the road is full of Illegal Immigrants driving 18 wheelers these companies are hiring them left and right. We have just seen the start I'm afraid.
swamp, and how does this guy know that to be true? Did he personally check out those drivers? You are too gullible.
left turn use some dam common sense for one not every body is as intelligent as you think you are. You know how truckers talk all the time I do know for a fact illegals have been caught driving rigs by State Police Agencies you should know that. I wish that we all were as smart as you socialists are.
With all the rules regulations and qualifications imposed on truck drivers, we may need to import some. I've known a lot of truckers and courteous, safe and dedicated drivers have my admiration.
-- Posted by left turn on Tue, Jan 13, 2015, at 1:40 P
It's true. The drivers have paperwork that is fake. In the years I drove I was never pulled over or called into the chicken coop. Do you want them to start profiling?
Obama is having a problem finding his crisis to unify the country into making himself the great leader to solve the problem so he keeps introducing little wars in hope the nation will rally to his leadership. Problem is, he has spent all his clout and credibility.
He understands well the liberal/progressive agenda, just can't seem to find his leadership qualities, imagined or real.
Hello left turn where did you go, one thing about it when left turn is wrong on a topic he takes off and hides just like a liberal they never take any responsibility.
I f you all will remember a trucking company in Sikeston and a republican representative were convicted of allowing illegals to obtain a OTR drivers license. The representative lost a promising career,, so it does happen.
And swamp, we don't disappear, just that you guys are always singing the same hateful Obama songs. All is perfect now with both houses in full control of the govt by repubs,,,,,,go for it.
Rick, none of them are "true" liberals.
"Obama and Free Community College Loans"
Hard to take a discussion serious when a belittler of education writes a title that indicates he does not understand the difference between "loans" and "free".
The proposal basically expands public education to include a few college years, so that the USA can remain competitive in a global economy.
Dug said "forgiving college loans altogether for certain "people"." This is already happening for those who teach in certain rural or troubled school districts. USA has shortage in certain higher education fields. ie engineering
That's true Tribune. Some doctors, etc. also get loan forgiveness by their employers as well.
"How The $1.2 Trillion College Debt Crisis Is Crippling Students, Parents And The Economy" - Forbes
"Stress About Student Loans Repayment? Sign up for Obama's 2015 Debt Relief Programs!" - http://plans.studentloanproject.us/programs/2015.html?gclid=CMmu_5LulMMCFUs2gQod...
Children belong to the state and the progressive nature of the state will expand the state's control of the state's children through education in a liberal/progressive agenda of a more powerful state.
"The proposal basically expands public education to include a few college years, so that the USA can remain competitive in a global economy."
They used to learn enough to be competitive in the secondary schools, until the federal government expanded its role there.
Now, they waste the better part of 12 years of schooling learning little of value, such that they have to extend that learning, and delay their entry into the workforce, by a few years.
As has been noted before: in 100 years we have gone from teaching Greek and Latin in grade school to teaching remedial English in College.
"Now, they waste the better part of 12 years of schooling learning little of value, such that they have to extend that learning, and delay their entry into the workforce, by a few years."
The crux of the situation in one sentence!
A radio add for United Way or some charity encourages people to look in the attic and storage areas for no longer used items as a way to create jobs. The ad explains that by donating those items to be resold to provide job training is in effect finding jobs in your attic, under your bed or in the garage.
So many IMO fail to understand more education does not provide jobs [except for teachers] or even allow for better jobs without the private market creating the jobs.
In this day and time , it's not what you know that gets you a job , it's who you know.
-- Posted by ▪Rick on Thu, Jan 15, 2015, at 10:30 AM
In way too many cases which makes the Government Septic System work just like a home septic system.
The biggest of them float to the top.
Meant to add, or the Corporate system as well.
Rick, Not sure about CDL but I was in a license office several years ago and saw a guy taking his written test for a regular drivers license verbally with aid of an interpreter. He may in a holding pattern circling a roundabout somewhere or lost due to detour instructions.
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