Posted by rocknroll on Tue, Aug 26, 2014, at 8:31 PM:
A new book by Jeffery Kluger,The Narcissist Next Door,comes out in a couple of weeks. Saw an interview with the author on Morning Joe. A little narcissism is good but too much is considered a possible mental disorder. A couple narcissists he mentions are Donald Trump and Sarah Palin(could he have a liberal bias?) obama wasn't mentioned in the interview so I wonder about the authors thoughts on him. There is a ranking of 39 presidents and their narcissism. Interesting to see who ranks where.
This is a Mayo Clinic description of symptoms of a person suffering from NPD/Narcissistic Personalty Disorder:
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything -- the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.
But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.
Seem like President we all know? Maybe even an obama loving poster or two?
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Those defining are describing themselves.
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Aug 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM
Nope, Old John, I think you just described the "bash the President" speak out club. Its all about perspective, and where you are in your life. I had a lot more of those characteristics as a young guy. Age definitely has mellowed me out. Is that wisdom?
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM
With Obama gone this speak out dept will be history. Gone like the ice age.
-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:47 AM
Nah Dexterite, they will continue to badger Gov. Nixon, or any other lone Liberal in the state of Missouri.
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:49 AM
The description of NPD symptoms seems to be painted with a brush wide enough to cover almost anyone, particularly individuals that are fortunate (or unfortunate) enough have occupied the position of the President of the United States. Applying this to President Obama requires you to believe everything that is or has been said about him by others.
If you believe republican descriptions and interpretations of his words and actions, you may form a negative opinion; if you pay less attention to those and make up your own mind, you may form a more positive impression.
For example, the above details on features of NPD contain the conclusion that...
"...people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others."
So how can you be certain that the President "values" himself above others? Is it something that Limbaugh, or Hannity, or Fox News said? Or is it something the President himself said or implied? I have personally never heard or read anything that the President said that would make me believe that he values himself "...more that [he] values others."
Furthermore, the last paragraph, omitted from the above list of NPD symptoms is...
"When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think that anything could be wrong -- doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, a narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling."
I would not say that the President does not realize that there are things that are "wrong." It's also not a case of NPD "causing problems" in the President's life. The "problems" abound by themselves, and my opinion is still that they are being handled as well as possible under the existing circumstances, given the conditions in society and the world today.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 6:35 AM
Very , very little of Foreign policy and domestic policy . Just me , the more he tries to better these policies , the worse they get .
After being on the job for 6 years , things are no better than 2008 . Not a very good thing to use on a resume .
-- Posted by ✴Rick on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 7:51 AM
I respectfully disagree with both of these. Some things are worse, but a whole lot are better.
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 7:59 AM
Simple, today the economy is growing, in 2008 it was shrinking. The U.S. economy has added jobs since February 2010, the economy has been growing since June 2009, corporate profits have risen sharply, foreclosures are finally falling, and household wealth is continuing to expand. Instead of a second Great Depression, the actions of the Obama administration resulted in our economy exiting what became known as the Great Recession of 2007--2009 within six months. Boom!
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 8:46 AM
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 8:46 AM
Reasoning, if you truly believe what you just posted, lord help you. You have been retired to long apparently...Look at the Department of Labor statistics, it will paint a different picture. The stock market is at an all time high because it is being propped up by the Fed. As much as you hate to hear it, poor Barry hasn't done a thing to improve the economy or unemployment.
-- Posted by BonScott on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 9:00 AM
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 8:46 AM
Hilarious! Here's some facts that have apparently confused both Common and Reasoning. Deal with these:
"According to Gallup, just 39% of Americans believe the U.S. economy is "getting better" versus 56% who say it is "getting worse."
"According to the Department of Agriculture's most recently released data, the number of individuals enrolled in the food stamp program has remained above 45 million every single month for three years straight." - a new record set by your president.
Since Obama has been president, seven out of every eight jobs that have been "created" in the U.S. economy have been part-time jobs.
When the Obama era began, the average duration of unemployment in this country was 19.8 weeks. Today, it is 36.6 weeks.
When Obama was elected, the homeownership rate in the United States was 67.5 percent. Today, it is 65.0 percent. That is the lowest that it has been in 18 years.
And of course you liberals don't talk about the $17+ TRILLION in debt. Obama is an economic disaster in all measures when considering that.
Keep pimping for your guy and whistling past the graveyard you two...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 9:19 AM
Dug, if your comments are true it just verifies how much of a stab in the heart GW Bush was. Nobody could have pulled Bush's disaster out of the toilet any better. Thanks for reminding me how bad of shape Bush left this country in. Keep up the good work Obama.
-- Posted by left turn on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 10:42 AM
-- Posted by left turn on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 10:42 AM
It's right in front of your face lefty and you can't even see it...God bless your grand kids for your inability to see the bigger picture.
-- Posted by BonScott on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 11:04 AM
I am not retired, BS. I work to support youins'
I believe (am not certain) the debt limit was raised 11 times by Reagan and 7 by Bush.The public debt doesn't have to be raised technically, but if the government defaults then interest and inflation rates will rise. If inflation rises it may be a good thing for the government because it means the public debt is worth less comparatively However when interest rates also rise, it affects the amount the government must pay back and so causing more debt by itself. In a perfect world the higher inflation would cancel out the higher interest rate, making both a mute point.
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 11:38 AM
-- Posted by left turn on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 10:42 AM
As RELee said I may as well save my fingers from typing with big Obama supporters. Your problem is - these are records set by your president pure and simple. The 45 million food stamp recipients happened mid-way through Obama's first term.
Blame Bush is all you've got.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM
The public debt doesn't have to be raised technically, but if the government defaults then interest and inflation rates will rise. -- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 11:38 AM
The perfect "tax and spend" liberal argument. What you leave out is the option to CUT spending. Your argument is a false one. Not raising the debt does not necessarily mean default - or anything close to that.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 12:01 PM
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 11:38 AM
Reasoning, don't flatter yourself. You don't support anything I do or have.
-- Posted by BonScott on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 2:37 PM
Well, I think the political climate is worse now. There is more "simmering" anger than there used to be, or at least the media informs us more. And, this is my opinion, I believe racism instead of becoming less, has at best, remained the same. It may be worse.
-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 3:24 PM
And the republicans huffed and they puffed and they still couldn't beat Barack Obama.
-- Posted by L'Espagnol on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:28 PM
And of course you liberals don't talk about the $17+ TRILLION in debt. Obama is an economic disaster in all measures when considering that.
.
-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 9:19 AM
Who ran up most of that debt duggy?
-- Posted by L'Espagnol on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:29 PM
It always makes me laugh when someone claims that one man (the president) is responsible for the improvement or weakening of the economy.
-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 7:08 PM
Who ran up most of that debt duggy? -- Posted by L'Espagnol on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:29 PM
The guy you voted for twice Jay/Ike/Spaniard/Spagnoli. Barack Hussein Obama. He's your president.
Own it.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 8:00 PM
"...makes me laugh when someone claims that one man (the president)..."
Better be careful, some "SO'ers" become Downright Ugly and Gruesome if you laugh at them.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Thu, Aug 28, 2014, at 7:04 AM
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Thu, Aug 28, 2014, at 7:04 AM
I'm beginning to think that Jay/Ike/Spaniard/Spagnoli has now morphed into Common. When the get caught spinning or lose the point terribly they resort to one-line name calling. Common has interjected more name calling than anyone in the past week.
Thin-skinned like his president...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Thu, Aug 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM
Common has interjected more name calling than anyone in the past week.
Thin-skinned like his president...
-- Posted by Dug on Thu, Aug 28, 2014, at 8:28 AM
Did you just call Common a name??
-- Posted by Reasoning on Thu, Aug 28, 2014, at 9:38 AM
Who ran up most of that debt duggy? -- Posted by L'Espagnol on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 5:29 PM
The guy you voted for twice Jay/Ike/Spaniard/Spagnoli. Barack Hussein Obama. He's your president.
Own it.
-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 8:00 PM
Duggy is bad at math.
-- Posted by L'Espagnol on Sat, Aug 30, 2014, at 2:46 PM
Duggy is bad at math. -- Posted by L'Espagnol on Sat, Aug 30, 2014, at 2:46 PM
Jay/Ike/Spaniard/Spag's math seems to always be Obama + Obama = Bush's fault. it's the new "liberal" math.
By the way, why did you have all of your postings deleted Jay/Ike/Spaniard/Spanoli? You don't see to have an answer for that?
-- Posted by not_sorry on Sat, Aug 30, 2014, at 4:00 PM
Speaking of narcissism, why do our top two leaders continue to "out" the Special Forces and their missions? Just for political props? Some other reason?
A new book by Jeffery Kluger,The Narcissist Next Door,comes out in a couple of weeks. Saw an interview with the author on Morning Joe. A little narcissism is good but too much is considered a possible mental disorder. A couple narcissists he mentions are Donald Trump and Sarah Palin(could he have a liberal bias?) obama wasn't mentioned in the interview so I wonder about the authors thoughts on him. There is a ranking of 39 presidents and their narcissism. Interesting to see who ranks where.
This is a Mayo Clinic description of symptoms of a person suffering from NPD/Narcissistic Personalty Disorder:
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything -- the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.
But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.
Seem like President we all know? Maybe even an obama loving poster or two?
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