Fine fellow he was!
Just tears me up. The liberal hero.
Yep - all these rich 1%er hollywood types admire a man who stuck it to the rich for the poor guy. All multi-millionaires.
And that, children, is the lesson. These liberal elites are not about "fair". They're about stirring up class warfare and wealth envy so we don't look as the enrich themselves. They don't want to "spread the wealth" - they want to spread YOUR wealth.
There are a number of them that post on these threads. The liberal democrat is alive and well.
If you take a good look, Chavez did a lot of the things the current administration supports.
Many staples are hard to get and expensive for the people and the murder rate is the highest in the western hemisphere according to some articles I have read.
He chewed coca leaves every morning and had his way with the so called peoples oil.
Nil, Do you reference the independence from Spain or the Gran Columbias?
History wasn't my best subject in school.
I do remember learning that one not as bad as the other doesn't make good.
While Sean Penn and his ilk mourn "a great friend" millions of Venezuelans around the world cheer and parade in the streets. Who would know better what this tyrant meant than his own people?
I posted this elsewhere: In a short bio after his death was announced yesterday it was stated," Chavez rose to power on the votes of poor people promising to spread the wealth".
It's no different than the professor who has a 3X5 poster of Che Guevera on his door. He's a big liberal professor in the sociology department and openly talks about his support of Guevera.
A liberal who supports a revolutionary who slaughtered and assassinated anyone in his way. He was racists and despised black people. But he was a big socialist and a revolutionary. He gets away with this because he's a liberal professor in a swamp of liberals and Che is a darling of the socialist believers.
It's not about racism or spread the wealth with this bunch. It's about winning at all costs and Obama has the lemming supporters who are clueless to his past and his future. Here's a direct quote from Obama's own book:
"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets... When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints."
He hung around his marxist professors. Nice. And don't forget that his mother and father were both avowed marxists.
I will speak no ill of the dead. I think it is sufficient to say that the world has been made no worse off by his departure.
Yes, and I would like to say, I do not miss him already.
He was generally a nutcase. When Simon Bolivars bones were dug up, he kissed the dead leader and had a lengthy conversation with his remains. He stole the wealth of investors who had, in good faith, built facilities in Venezuela. Like most socialists, he instituted social reforms that kept the poor poor, but gave them enough bread and leisure to keep them voting for the empty promises of more.
Chavez believed that only socialism could build a society. This belief runs entirely counter to the evidence of decades: Socialism does not build societies, it can only survive off the carcasses of those societies that capitalism has built, but which were destroyed (as often as not) through greedy government officials enriched and empowered through their corruption of the free markets via governmental influence.
That should sound familiar to anyone paying attention. Sadly, too few are paying attention.
Awful? Define awful.
When you run up $6 Trillion in debt, unemployment at record highs over time, inflation up, GDP way down, welfare all-time highs and entitlements bankrupting the country - then...
50.6% of the people say "Let's have some more of that". How awful would "awful" have to be?
To 49.4% of the people this is about as awful as it gets. But that doesn't translate to the 50.6%. They love their leader and will follow him everywhere.
I see I broke my rule about speaking no ill. Oh, well. There's surely a statute of limitations upon it, anyway...
Just wondering, are their any Muslim Brotherhoods in Venezuela for Mr. Obama to support?
Can we send them some fighter planes or humanitarian aide maybe?
I think we should loan Obama out to Venezuela. He could do less damage down there. Do they have golf courses in Venezuela?
Spaniard, Did you send flowers?
Was a Venezuelan ambassador ever killed despite begging for additional security for over a month and countless warnings of imminent attacks?
Is our Chavez more concerned with a citizen with a gun or N Korea with a nuke?
Would Chavez have used drones to kill Venezuelans [if he had them] or kill them the old fashion way?
"Did Chavez ever invade the wrong country based on phony evidence?"
Your hatred of Mr. Bush is appalling. Mr. Johnson also invaded a country based on faulty and/or fabricated evidence (The Tonkin Gulf Incident), but I don't see you railing about him. Mr. Kennedy invaded Cuba with a flawed plan and insufficient support, but I don't see you railing about him.
Mr. Bush laid out his reasons for resuming hostilities against Iraq in his speech to the United Nations. Saddam was not living up the terms of the cease-fire. The fact that his predecessor did not do his duty should not have prevented Mr. Bush from making a decision based on Saddam's actions. Right or wrong, we committed to certain terms which Saddam agreed to keep. He did not keep them, and the response was justified under the terms he accepted. It's not as if he wasn't warned. He expected Mr. Bush's response to be as tepid as Mr. Clinton's, and thus he misjudged. The onus was on him.
Your hatred of Mr. Bush is appalling.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Fri, Mar 8, 2013, at 10:00 AM
Is this the excuse you use to justify your own decent into tribalism?
It would be the tribe of Blind Faith .
-- Posted by Dissident. on Fri, Mar 8, 2013, at 11:29 AM
Would that be a tribe or a religion. I think they view Obama as the 2nd coming.
You're right, how dare I question the infallibility of your logic. It's always the other guys who don't know what they are talking about.
"You're right, how dare I question the infallibility of your logic."
Would that be Diss's logic or mine? ;-)
The Chavez t-shirt ain't no Shroud of Turin!
"But we both know Bush's invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD and enforcing the UN agreement."
No, we don't know that. Just because you believe it, does not mean it is so.
David Kay testified before Congress that Iraq was in violation of the terms of the agreement. His report, which you cite, was the result of a commission convened after the attack, so any findings it may have would have been too late to forestall the invasion.
Said Mr. Kay, when he resigned: "It turns out that we were all wrong, probably in my judgment, and that is most disturbing."
Saddam was in violation by not allowing the inspectors to do their duty. As he acknowledged prior to his execution, it was more important to him to maintain the illusion of such a programme, because he feared Iran more than he feared the United States. That he was successful in maintaining the illusion was a credit to him, that we did not discover the facade was to our discredit. Even so, the violation of the terms was there, as Mr. Bush pointed out when he addressed the United Nations.
Mr. Clinton permitted the inspectors to be kicked out. Thus, he did not do his duty.
One of my wifes relatives long passed was a bit different. He was actually quite wealthy but lived and dressed like he had nothing. He had sailed the world in his Navy years of WWII and combined that with a love of reading to become quite the expert on world geography and places he planned to visit.
Venezuela was top of his list as from what he had studied and had to be the most beautiful and perfect place to live.
Not sure myself for I have never studied or followed the country or its history and sadly uncle P died before he got around to his travels.
I just wonder if anyone today thinks Venezuela to be a great place to move to.
I just wonder if anyone today thinks Venezuela to be a great place to move to. -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Mar 10, 2013, at 11:40 PM
I would imagine the wealth-envy crowd and the welfare bunch would like Venezuela where they stick it to evil corporations and those rich guys. And buy votes with their money.
Gee, that sounds familiar... :-)
Odd that we don't hear about many wealthy liberals moving there.
Odd that we don't hear about many wealthy liberals moving there. -- Posted by Old John on Mon, Mar 11, 2013, at 1:00 PM
Funny thing is they sure like to visit and praise Chavez as they fly in on their private jets. You're right though - they would not want to move there. Why? Their "mission" to turn America into a Venezuela/Cuba style government is not complete here. They'll stay here until then.
Gee fellas, Venezuela sounsa likw great place to bomb.
Did I not mention electronic bombs?
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