GOP must stop being 'stupid party'

Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:10 AM:

From news.yahoo.com

"CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called on the Republican Party to "stop being the stupid party" on Thursday as GOP leaders promised fundamental changes to help stave off future losses.

In the keynote address at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, Jindal said the GOP doesn't need to change its values but "might need to change just about everything else we are doing."

"We've got to stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults," he said. "We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I'm here to say we've had enough of that."

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  • May work to get more voters if they really do change...

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:11 AM
  • Then again, maybe it's best if they keep doing what has not worked for the past four years.

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:13 AM
  • I agree with Governor Jindal comments and also with Governor Barbour and Newt Ginrich both of those men for the past week have said the same thing. The republicans are going to have to adjust there ways and go after the middle class, hispanic, women and young adult voters if they expect to win future elections they have to adjust to the 21st century voters. They have to move to the middle that is where elections are won. This is a whole different ball game today then what it was back in the Reagan days.

    -- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:24 AM
  • Granted the Republicans blew it big time in the last two presidential elections. McCain and Romney were two of the worst choices from all the qualified primary runners. If I were to call anyone stupid though it would be anyone who voted for Obama.

    -- Posted by dab1969 on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:31 AM
  • They also want your input about how they should change through a web poll.

    http://growthopp.gop.com/default.aspx?s=...

    I doubt they will change much.

    -- Posted by 3forone on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:33 AM
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    Then again, maybe it's best if they keep doing what has not worked for the past four years. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:13 AM

    Yes - republicans should push very very hard for

    illegal immigration

    free health care for illegals and credits for people earning up to $80,000

    women in front-line combat

    gay marriage

    more food stamps, section 8 housing, 99 weeks of unemployment

    relieve all college loans to all but white men

    encourage more out-of-wedlock pregnancies and government payment for the births

    banning all guns that shoot more than a bb

    abortion at any time - including scissors in newborn skulls which Obama supports - and payment of abortions by tax payers

    electing unqualified inexperienced presidents because they are black or female

    Yes - if republicans could just accept everything the democrats are for then we could relive Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama - two of the most incompetent leaders in the history of the United States. Great logic common!

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 8:20 AM
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    Then again, maybe it's best if they keep doing what has not worked for the past four years.

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 7:13 AM

    We know it would help your bottom line.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 8:43 AM
  • "Yes - republicans should push very very hard for..."

    Not at all. Just stop being "stupid."

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 9:11 AM
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    -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 8:45 AM

    Welcome to the dung party.

    You have to make somewhat credible statements. Infers pockets being filled with your tax dollars? a) you couldn't be more wrong and b) I thought you democrats liked that? Buying votes?

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 9:11 AM
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    The Republicans are going to have to forget about integrity and lie like a left wing liberal to get elected.

    Then go do what your agenda was to begin with. As in Obama and 'gun control'. He was not going after your guns.... now it is one of his major issues.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 9:13 AM
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    -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 10:19 AM

    nwmo,

    If you feel I, being one of those who post quite a bit, should be held accountable to you for when and where I post, I will give you this much information.

    I have been retired since the year 2000. However I do still work, when and where I feel like it, most of it on computer by remote connection thru the internet. I sometimes work in the morning, sometimes in the evening and sometimes as late as 3:00am if the pain hits me to do it. As a matter of fact it is Saturday morning and I am working... just took a break to peek into SEMO to see what was going on in my absence.

    Is that OK?

    PS: I draw no government checks except SS, which I bought and paid for, and you may call it an entitlement or whatever you wish. And I do still pay income taxes and SS taxes.

    Hope that is all right... cause I sure as hell wouldn't want to offend anyone.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:11 AM
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    I vote straight republican ticket here -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 9:31 AM

    Then you need to switch to democrat. You make points based on nothing but the air between your ears. Give one fact - just one - that makes you believe I receive government money. You can't because I don't. You'd do yourself a favor posting for Obama because most of his supporters ignore facts and post mindless spin.

    It's a good fit for you.

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:35 AM
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    nwmo - quit voting for Obama if you're sick and tired of paying for welfare, unemployment, medicaid, your college loans, obamaphones and rent in yo' momma's basement.

    Facts are not that hard to come by if you look around - I'm trying to figure out who you're a sock puppet for. Me'Lange? Username1? An angry spaniard? You're too funny!

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:51 AM
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    Big exception there grandpa. I'm 36 and growing sick and tired of funding retirees road trips and casino excusions; while knowing I will never see a dime of social security. Nothing personal grandma, it is the system I have a problem with.

    -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:30 AM

    Listen up sonny. I didn't invent the social security system but paid at the maximum level for many years and since I owned my own company paid both sides of it. I did that all of the while supporting the ancestors from which you sprang... so quit your witching. Not one thing would change in my life if that check never came next month because I took care of my retirement during my work years, while supporting your relatives.

    What makes you think you are so damned special?

    I would be much better off today if I had been able to invest that money I was forced to spend on your relatives. So don't think for one minute you are going to make me feel guilty for drawing. I will save it for my kids who just like you are not going to get to draw in the end because the liberals are going to bankrupt the system unless someone stops them. Notice I did not say Democrats or Republicans.... I said "Liberals" because there are too many liberal Republicans to offset the few Conservative Democrats left in this world.

    PS: If you vote a straight ticket of any kind you are an idiot.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM
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    Hey Grandpa, that makes you a taker in my book! Get off my dime and deal with it!

    -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 12:00 PM

    Good thing your "book" counts for little in the scheme of things.

    nwmo,

    You are an ungrateful little punk who doesn't seem to understand it was people like you are criticizing who left you the opportunities you and others like you are screwing up with your liberalism. And for all of your bluster... I question if you are paying the amount of taxes right now that I am to keep your young arse afloat. So maybe you might want to not discuss who's dime we are on.

    And I almost forgot, I am not a gambler, only thing I go to a casino for is to eat on occasion. How do you know who is there?

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM
  • "...if given the chance, we can govern. We have better ideas."

    So, what are they?

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM
  • As far as winning elections, conservatism always works when it is adhered to. Just ask Ron Paul.

    Democrat will continue to be the party of stupid voters and smart well paid liars. :)

    -- Posted by Old John on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 1:23 PM
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    -- Posted by nwmo on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 1:01 PM

    And those posts prove what? Nothing. Go get all my posts for the past 4 years and bring them here as well. Sounds like something a 16 year old would have time to do - or a sock puppet.

    As I said, I can walk and chew gum. What do I do for a living sock puppet? Let that occupy your empty mind for a while. Tell momma hi!

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 1:30 PM
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    Dang

    Who banned nwmo ??

    -- Posted by Dissident. on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 2:35 PM

    Diss,

    Wasn't me... I thought he was amusing.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 2:39 PM
  • Someone hit a nerve.

    -- Posted by ratiocination on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM
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    I also notice the fact I knew who they were was erased as well .

    Hmmmm...my , my , my

    -- Posted by Dissident. on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 2:49 PM

    Diss,

    I cannot find my favorite teacher's name on here any longer.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 3:18 PM
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    Oooops Diss,

    I was looking in all of the wrong places, she's still there.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 3:28 PM
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    I think nwmo was a sock puppet that didn't want to reveal their previous name. They like to come in, stir up some posts and then disappear. They're just having fun. It definitely posted just like a couple of other libs running around here!

    -- Posted by Dug on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 3:48 PM
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    "The Republicans are going to have to forget about integrity and lie like a left wing liberal to get elected."

    That was Romney's problem. He told the truth when at the same time he was attacked with lies.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 5:42 PM
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    I look for the young to mature and get savy then tear it down and start all over again .

    -- Posted by Dissident. on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 6:33 PM

    By then too much financial damage will be done to the US to be the same.

    Now they are saying with the huge growth of the SS disability fund it will broke in 2016.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/...

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 8:18 PM
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    BC

    It is flawed. But this was the New Deal which was a socialist dream.

    The Keynesian multiplier is what they have been using but it is flawed. Taxing savings was the plan thinking that people will spend instead of save and it will cause full employment and a robust economy.

    The other part is the thinking 50% of government project spending will go back into the economy and make even more jobs as people spend it. The bad thing it was based on a balanced budget and no government borrowing.

    The truth is savings and investment is a bigger multiplier than deficit spending.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:03 PM
  • Other things , clean water , fresh food , will be more valuable .

    -- Posted by Dissident. on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 9:40 PM

    We are not that far from a tax on water now. Government will use the logic that regulating and keeping water supplys safe calls for a revenue derived from use.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:22 PM
  • BC, David Stockman?

    ~~~~~

    One only needs to recall the story of the three farmers selling the mule back and fourth to each other at a profit each time. Works ok until the mule gets sold to someone outside the circle.

    ~~~~~~

    Then there's the banker story of how a dollar put in the bank becomes three. The depositor has a dollar, the bank has a dollar and the borrower has a dollar. :)

    -- Posted by Old John on Sat, Jan 26, 2013, at 11:48 PM
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    Here is what the Keynesian Theory and the royals have cost us.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTBODoBaC...!

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 12:37 AM
  • BC, Economics to me then was figuring out how to make my paycheck cover my payments. Stockman was in the news quite a bit and looked down on by the media because of his lack of age and so called authorship of trickle down economics if I'm recalling correctly. I was casually aquainted with his sister living in Cape at the time or I would probably not even have remembered his name.

    Right or wrong economically speaking, Reagan is one president in my life time I would have crossed the street to meet.

    Neither may be the perfect answer but looking back I would say Reaganomics beats Obamanomics hands down.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 12:51 AM
  • It takes money to make money it has been shown, but if wealth cant be mined it has to be grown. Private banks have a part to play but when government competes there's hell to pay.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 2:04 AM
  • no dab, you would had been stupid to have voted for McCain or Romney. Your party choices were horrible,,just think Palin and Ryan were on the ticket also,,,what freaking characters.

    -- Posted by Dexterite1 on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 5:33 AM
  • dexter,can't remember the last time I voted "for" anyone. It's a sad state of affairs when ones choice is voting against. McCain was viable until Palin entered the race. The Republicans blew it with her, but I saw through Obama's shuck and jive and total lack of experience plus who his real backers were so I voted for(or against)neither one. Romney was just exactly the candidate Obama needed to win again. He was easy to characterize as the enemy of the poor and middle class. I did vote Romney,but again,it was a vote against Obama. Can't wait to see how things have changed in 4 years.

    " Stupid is as stupid does" says Forrest. We'll see about your IQ then.

    -- Posted by dab1969 on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 7:00 AM
  • "If I could be stupid for a sec.."

    -- Posted by Dissident. on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 1:25 AM

    Why limit yourself to a second? (Just kidding.)

    First, the price is actually going up to 46 cents. Try getting FedEx or UPS to come to your mailbox, pickup a letter, and deliver it to Fairbanks Alaska for half the price of a cup of coffee. For that matter I recall when stamps were 3 cents and coffee was 5 cents, so it would seem that stamps are still a better bargain.

    Paying for stamps is not a tax. Stamps are a commodity that you buy when you want to. If you don't want a to mail a letter, don't buy stamps.

    "The Federal Government has nothing to do with the USA Postal Service ."

    This is basically correct as the Post Office is not supported by tax dollars. However, Congress still meddles in USPS business. Unprofitable and rural offices and routes cannot be closed or consolidated without approval of Congress. The USPS must go by each of its customer's mailbox, six times a week, whether there is mail for them or not. Congress told the Postal Service to go be self sufficient, and then kept artificial and some archaic restrictions on them. No private business could operate better under similar constraints.

    -- Posted by commonsensematters on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 7:33 AM
  • I understand Palin has been fired by Fox. Every where she goes every gig she does it is all on short terms she never stays at a place for a long period of time. She needs to stay in Alaska and go back to fishing with her husband.

    -- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 8:55 AM
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    -- Posted by Spaniard on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 7:27 AM

    All this good, in-depth discussion about economics and politics and this is all you've got Spaniard? You are truly in the tank pretty deep. I think you've lost your critical thinking abilities.

    Common, Diss - re: the USPS. With the post office going broke and not associated much with the federal government I thought a good solution would be to have the USPS spend only the money that it has and never run a deficit. Keep in place the infrastructure to move mail across the country and may provide just ONE postmaster per post office - that's all. I haven't run the numbers to see if they could afford that but I would imagine they could.

    Then, each local community could decide how much postal service they want. Daily office hours? Daily delivery? PO Box only delivery? Delivery to every personal mail box? Whatever that would take each community should fund the postal workers they want to have. If you want to maintain the current level of postal delivery in Scott City (for example) then the local community CITY would need to hire 4, 5, 6, ? employees to maintain that. Or if the county wanted it then you'd need to hire XX employees on the county payroll.

    This way the USPS collects, moves and delivers the mail just to a Post office. The rest is up to the community.

    -- Posted by Dug on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 9:08 AM
  • "Paying for stamps is not a tax. Stamps are a commodity that you buy when you want to. If you don't want a to mail a letter, don't buy stamps.

    "The Federal Government has nothing to do with the USA Postal Service ." "

    Common, I take it you are a fan of the way the post office operates given we have a choice to purchase stamps or not.

    Seems to contradict your reasoning that mandantory medical insurance purchase is a good thing.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Jan 27, 2013, at 12:47 PM

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