This is so dangerous ....

Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Sat, Dec 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM:

The constitution means nothing to gov't or it's politicians with the exception of when it can be used to further their agenda.

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    "Vice President Joe Biden again laid out the White House's terms"

    Biden is not my idea of a good spokesman for fiscal matters. He couldn't even take care of his own. BTW this is the same budget even his own party turned down last time.

    Soak the rich doesn't work. But why would anyone doubt the wealth of the financial brain trust the Obama folks have over history.

    http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/do-the...

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Dec 8, 2012, at 8:37 PM
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    BC

    They will have to soak everyone soon.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sat, Dec 8, 2012, at 9:31 PM
  • I see something wrong headed in local government thinking when things are tight. When people have less to spend, government collects less in sales tax so the first reaction is to take away more of folks money to make up for the loss. The more they take, the less is spent and less tax collected.

    On a national level the best thing would be to lower or eliminate corporate taxes, lower income taxes to the minimum and cut back on the give-aways that favor one particular behavior over another through deductions, [no that doesn't mean charitable deductions] back off on the regulations to point where business knows where it stands and let the economy ramp up.

    Where's Ross Perot with his charts when we need him?

    That giant sucking sound may soon be relaced with the sound of stretching leather as producers and consumers tighten belts on expansion and spending.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sat, Dec 8, 2012, at 11:27 PM
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    One business owner's plan to survive Obamacare.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-re...

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 11:14 AM
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    Under the current law, employers with more than 50 full-time (or equivalent) workers will be charged a penalty for the number of employees exceeding 30 full-time staffers who are not covered. With an average of 35 full-time employees per location, Metz said the $2,000 penalty would total roughly $70,000 per restaurant.

    Thank god Common and Spaniard can get free healthcare that's not free.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 11:51 AM
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    Rick

    Its hard to be in a continuing training situation. The thing that hits home is everybody is wondering how much it will really cost.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 12:11 PM
  • Wheels, A responsible business owner should be able to factor in reasonable cost of doing business and stay competitive without whining about fair compensation for employees.

    [I'm posting this for Me'Lange as she must be to busy shopping at Kohls to weigh in] :) :) :)

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 1:02 PM
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    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 1:02 PM

    I suppose anybody can factor in costs, and maybe even still stay in business. But I like this man's approach. I am assuming that his tickets will identify what the 5% surcharge is for. I think in the interest of fair reporting people should know what they are paying for and why.

    So far as cutting hours to keep people at part time. That is his responsibility to keep customer costs as low as possible.

    The community organizer must think business owners are going to just eat these extra costs of doing business without passing them on to customers. Let the suckers.... I mean customers pay for their foolishness of having voted this empty suit back into office.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 3:04 PM
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    Rick

    I've been there and you are right. It takes about 6 months for a person to get accustomed to their work. If people hate getting bad service at these places they had better get ready for a lot more.

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    " A responsible business owner should be able to factor in reasonable cost of doing business and stay competitive without whining about fair compensation for employees".

    Then tell me what the cost is going to be and I will. The bad thing is there will be companies that underestimate the costs and they will be hit hard. The whole thing is gonna cost the public in more taxes and about a 8% rise in costs. People like Conman and crew think business will absorb it.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 4:05 PM
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    Regrets,

    If the Community Organizer had any idea about how skinney businesses have been operating on profits these past dozen or so years, he might realize business cannot absorb all of these costs he and Congress are piling on.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 4:21 PM
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    Looks like the current Admin. won't be happy until they have taxed all industry out of this country.

    -- Posted by dchannes on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 6:44 PM
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    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 4:21 PM

    That's the problem. They don't know anything about business. All they know is tax until they kill the golden goose. The public gets to pay it but seems to not understand that.

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 7:16 PM
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    I haven't been "weighting in" as much because all SO discussions... by the same handful of posters who bully anyone who holds a differing opinion. Suspect this is the reason so many other posters have grown bored -- Posted by Me'Lange on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 4:02 PM

    That's a shame if true. I'm from right here in the 8th district and post in the liberal lions den of the St. Louis Post Dispatch and on occasion I post with an account with the San Francisco newspapers. Imagine posting with 100 Commons, 50 Spaniards, 75 username1s, 80 Me'Langes and 100 Theorists - a liberal democrat heaven. Doesn't deter me. If you can't hold a candle to other posters then it would be tough.

    Again with the bullying thing. If you can't handle criticism of your opinion or position then may I suggest you post at the San Francisco Examiner? Or at Nickleodeons site? You'll feel warm and fuzzy and receive no challenges to your thoughts. Kinda sounds like this president. Not comfortable with anyone challenging his thoughts or opinions.

    -- Posted by Dug on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 8:22 PM
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    Still on the fence Mel?

    -- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 9:35 PM
  • Me'Lange, Some of your thread topics went long and stirred good discussion. Don't confuse being picked on with bullying. Glad to hear you are still reading.

    Regret, As you have pointed out before, the real damper on business is not knowing what's coming.. kind of hard to have a game plan if you don't know what the game is going to be.

    Wheels, We could take that idea further by listing on the customer menu the cost of other regulations too. Handicap access, city, state and county license, hazmat and OSHA compliance monitoring service, workers comp ins, employer SS contribution etc.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 11:14 PM
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    -- Posted by Me'Lange on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 8:50 PM

    Thank you for proving mine. Someone responds with a point that is counter to yours and "blah blah blah" is your response. You need to find a site where everyone agrees with you so you aren't "bullied".

    I have agreed with you and posted such in the past but you would never know would you?

    -- Posted by Dug on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 11:31 PM
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    Wheels, We could take that idea further by listing on the customer menu the cost of other regulations too. Handicap access, city, state and county license, hazmat and OSHA compliance monitoring service, workers comp ins, employer SS contribution etc.

    -- Posted by Old John on Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 11:14 PM

    Old John,

    Doing it that way might get that $10 hamburger back down to about $2.35 before the add ons.

    Would you then only have to charge Sales Tax on the $2.35 actual selling price of the hamburger?

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 12:08 AM
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    While on the subject of bullying.... if you ever want to be bullied, just try disagreeing with this lady when you feel she is wrong on a subject. I was told once that I did not have a dog in the fight in so many words, because I didn't live in Cape and to get off the thread. Maybe not the exact words but the message was clear.

    I never did mind well and that is probably why she has such a 'fondness' for me.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 12:16 AM
  • Wheels, "Stay calm Dad!". :)

    -- Posted by Old John on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 12:35 AM
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    Old John,

    I am perfectly calm. And going to be even calmer in a few minutes. Been out for most of the evening and am pooped.

    We attended a Presentation at the local Lutheran Church called "The Boar's Head Christmas Festival". This particular Church has been putting this on with 6 showings for the past 26 years now and it was really enjoyable. The entire cast is members of the church and it is amazing the talent.

    The theme goes back to Medieval England.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 AM
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    Rick,

    I used to post on a forum that I believe it was Yahoo sponsored, can't remember for sure. It got so rowdy they took it down.

    Had a guy I disagreed with in England once that was like a couple of our beloved posters on here.... had to be right about everything. He got so mad at me once he threatened to come over here to specifically kick my rear end. Said he was computer savey enough to figure out my IP address and who I was too. Not being on the top ten list of anything important that I am aware of, I wished him well.

    -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 9:35 AM
  • I believe that this administration should have a disclaimer on everything they do. "Do Not try this at Home."

    -- Posted by Mowrangler on Mon, Dec 10, 2012, at 12:27 PM

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