It hasn't even kicked in and states are already seeing a rise of 35% above estimates. All this so Common and Spaniyard can get their so called free healthcare.
"Things aren't going so hot. The State of Minnesota just announced that their exchange has already exceeded cost estimates by 35% before it's even implemented, and the cost to taxpayers is expected to rise another 18% in the first year after implementation."
I think our governor has done the right thing by letting it go to the feds.
Everyone with 1/2 a brain knew Obama was lying about the costs. Just like his "fiscal cliff" campaign talks - "We'll discuss cuts after the tax increases". Just another lie.
How do you liberals sleep at night knowing how you've been fooled again? You voted for health care costs INCREASES - own it.
Why take on a program that is guaranteed to break the bank? The implosion has started.
From what I have heard today, an employer is subject to a fine if he does not furnish health care insurance and the State Health Care Exchange has to cover. But a number of the States have opted to not form an exchange and the Feds have to set one up. There is no provision in the law for fining the employer if the Federal Exchange has to take over and I think Oklahoma is now testing that.
The IRS however, in spite of there being no provision in the law, is establishing rules requiring fines of the employer in case the Federal Exchange has to cover their employees. When challenged by some Congressmen about where they got the authority to do this the IRS told the Congress it was confidential and would not answer the question.
Was there really anyone that believed governmentcare would lower costs and actually be cost effective? If so, chalk up another one for our fine government education system.
I didn't predict a lot before the election except this - if Obama wins and the country continues down it's path to financial demise you'll notice the liberals on these threads leaving or hiding out. Looks like I was right about that.
I think they're hiding in their shame for having voted in this empty suit for another 4 years. No more "it's Bush's fault" now. They've got no where to run. Says everything about their character and judgement.
I have heard Obamacare called the greatest Rube Goldberg of all time.
FFF, It's never been about lowering the cost but rather who pays.
Wheels, I think it's about what you mention. It would be hard for states to fight a federal mandate once the states complied.
It don't matter though, we are headed for a single payer system in which more than 5 administrators per doctor is the rule. You want first class medical attention? Submit your request to the man behind the curtian. Your money means nothing here! Papers please,..oh you know the senator?, come right in.
It was late and I forgot who said it, but there appears to be a movement on foot already to go for a single payer system, since we have a liberal President in Washington. Also a guaranteed annual income for all was also mentioned.
I think they will have a problem getting this through the house, but God help us if they get control of the House of Representatives in 2014.
FFF, It's never been about lowering the cost but rather who pays.-- Posted by Old John on Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 8:41 PM
With healthcare costs spiraling out of control, what kind of crap for brains idiot would come up with a plan that deals with who pays, as opposed to a plan that would actually rein in costs?
FFF, I think you know who.
You guys lost, get over it, things will get better, see Romney did get to the White House.
I was really concerned about North Korea's appointment of Kim Jung Un to be the new leader of North Korea -- a nuclear power!
Kim Jung Un had NO military experience whatsoever before Daddy made him a four-star general in the military. This is a snot-nose twerp who has never accomplished anything in his life that would even come close to military leadership: he hasn't even so much as led a Cub Scout troop, coached a sports team or commanded a military platoon.
So guess what---next they make him the "beloved leader" of the country. Terrific!
Oh, crap! I'm sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing here in the USA.
We took an arrogant community organizer who has never worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief; a guy who has never had a real job, worked on a budget or led anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and made him the leader of this country.
I'm sorry I brought this up. Never mind.
With respect to the above (and numerous other) comments, talk about a boatload of blind bluster floating on a sea of ill-informed ignorance...
Try this link, it gives you the impact of the Affordable Care Act when you enter some information. For myself, as is most likely the case others that enter valid information, there will be very little change.
This link gives a rational outline of major provisions.
Among other benefits, it will reduce the long range deficit.
You guys lost, get over it, things will get better, see Romney did get to the White House. -- Posted by Dexterite1 on Fri, Nov 30, 2012, at 6:03 AM
It's funny to see Spaniard, Dexterite1, Howdy (still here), KcClown and other liberals suggesting that people who disagree with Obama "move on" or "get over it".
I believe this post-election period will be much tougher on you far-left democrats and Obama supporters. Once again you "own" it. As unemployment, gas prices, health care costs, inflation and debts RISE again you have to look in the mirror every day and think "I voted for this debacle". When your children/grandchildren suffer for lack of jobs and a lower standard of living you'll be questioning why you voted for all of this.
I sleep very well at night and I, for one, will not stop reminding you of what you have deliberately put into place. On November 6th you signed your name to the coming economic disaster. Own it.
"What was the purpose of the 10 year Affordable Act if "there will be very little change." ??"
Very little change to currently, adequately insured individual. Very positive, signifcant change to uninsured people.
Savings of about a trillion dollars in the deficit in 10 years.
Here's something interesting
Are there really people in this day and age that actually believe the gov't when it says one of it's programs will lower the deficit? Cut costs? Ensure efficiency? They believe this based on what? The government's track record? Mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. The failures of the past should be learned from, not copied and repeated.
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