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Republicans are Sinister
Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 9:07 PM:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/...

Gee, I wonder why the Republican legislature wants to deny voters early voting on the weekend before the election. They've had these early voting days for many years...suddenly, this year the extra three days are just too much.



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We are sure, donacita, that you in your infinite wisdom and extraordinary ability are just about to explain it to thnose of us who are not blessed with your remarkable intellectual capacity.

-- Posted by voyager on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 9:15 PM

Why, pray tell me do we set a day up as election day if we are going to be voting even 1 hour before the times stated in State Regulations. This ia the most stupid argument that I have heard put forth anywhere.

And Obama, the hypocrite that he is, does not want our armed forces to have extra time to absentee vote when they are thousands of miles for their homes, but he thinks people in the State of Ohio should be given extra time in spite of State Laws. Very simply, Obama and the far left liberals have had to figure an advantage in doing so.

All States should make election day just that. The DAY that all voting is done except a defined and well layed out method of absentee votes. As mobile as America is today they should have no problem getting it done, if they care enough to vote in the first place, and if they do not, Democrat or Republican, sorry Charlie, you had the same opportunity everyone else had. That is my opinion.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 9:35 PM

Wheels, you wouldn't be damning poor Donacita with faint praise, now would you?

-- Posted by voyager on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:00 PM

Our right to vote should be made as easy and accessible as possible. One day? On a Tuesday?

In 2004 in Ohio, people had to stand in line for as much as 10 hours and more because polling places were not prepared. Congress even looked into why there was such a problem.

In 2005, things changed. Ohio expanded early voting, and has offered this in-person voting every year since. Suddenly they are SO desperate to stop voters from voting early!!

African Americans are 26 percent morely likely to vote the weekend before the election. They go vote after church.

It is blatently obvious that the Republican party in Ohio is trying to suppress the African American vote which will most likely be for President Obama.

If that is not sinister, I don't know what is.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:13 PM

I call it as I see it. Donacita comes on, starts a dumb thread... this certainly is not the first one, with baseless claims and then disappears without defending her position. All I can assume her position is defenseless, so what else would she come off as.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:15 PM

How about we go back a ways to when only real property owners could vote?

The way it is now, those on welfare can vote themselves a raise by voting for a socialist candidate!

Don't own property? No vote. I like it, and it makes sense.

-- Posted by dchannes on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:23 PM

I agree... or 1 vote for every dollar of taxes paid, or 1 vote for every $100 dollars of taxes paid, whatever the formula isn't important, just make sure those contributing the most have the most input.

The National Debt would not exist after a time.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:31 PM

This is an open forum. I realize that usually the comments are made by the right wing Obama haters, but why is my thread any dumber than "Tactless Tuesday"? It's dumb to you because you don't like it.

You live in Cape Girardeau (or nearby), Dude. 'Not exactly a metropolis. So I wouldn't expect long lines to vote.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:33 PM

dchannes: So anyone living in an apartment can't vote? No, your idea does not make sense.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:40 PM

Sweetie, I live in the St. Louis area, St. Charles to be specific.

I believe the Democrats want to stretch this out so there is more opportunity to cheat, which disenfranchices my vote. And I despise a cheater.

I watched that small part of the Democratic Convention replayed where they had to vote 3 times on if or not to put God in the platform. And in the final analysis, there was not a majority vote to do so on either of the three votes but it was called as a win for the Pros or Fors, whatever you would like to call them. And only because the handlers of the event finally got the message.... it was politically expedient to do so.

That is the kind of a vote I am afraid of from the Democrats.

With the voice vote, there should have been no God in their platform. I do not agree with it, but if you are going to vote on something, then let the majority rule. The fix is in on this election but it just might turn on the Democrats in spite of the liberal media propping them up.

I am not a Pro Romney voter, I am a Pro get Obama out of here voter. He has done enough damage to this country.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:44 PM

I hate cheaters, too...like the Republicans who are trying to suppress voting based upon the fabricated voter fraud issue. In Pennsylvania, there has been not even one prosecution of voter impersonation in many years because the prosecutors found no evidence. Still, they continue to lie and spread fear that tons of people are voting illegally. All the states crying foul about voter fraud have Republican governors.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 11:02 PM

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 11:02 PM

If you are referring to having a Photo ID... I am for it. You can do little else in life anymore without it. What is wrong with bringing your ID with you. The people you want to see vote, the people obligated to the Democrats via welfare already have their Photo ID's for the most part and I think you are smart enough to know that. It will make cheating harder to do.

I have to show my ID now to vote, what is the big deal?

I will sum it up for you Donacita, you are just as wrong about voting fraud not existing as you were about where I live. Voter fraud exists and is done mostly, not all, by Democrats and that is their biggest objection to Photo ID's The fact that it would disenfranchise anyone is a smoke screen. If you buy that you are totally naive.

I am out for the night, I have an hours work to do and want to sleep tonight.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 11:26 PM

4 years ago voters waited 10 hours to vote and the polls closed. Laws were passed to accommodate voters now the repugnant party wants to shorten the hours. And you all call this fair and balanced. Soldiers have died to protect the vote, now all of you want this taken away.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 AM

Right here in southeast Missouri, I waited 1 1/2 hours to vote the last Presidential election. I have to be at work by 8, and at the time was working a second job after, so my only chance was first thing in the morning.

It seems to me, that the Republicans are trying to make it even more difficult to cast a vote. Don't any of you work?

-- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 6:03 AM

How about we go back a ways to when only real property owners could vote? The way it is now, those on welfare can vote themselves a raise by voting for a socialist candidate! Don't own property? No vote. I like it, and it makes sense.-- Posted by dchannes on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:23 PM

I agree... or 1 vote for every dollar of taxes paid, or 1 vote for every $100 dollars of taxes paid, whatever the formula isn't important, just make sure those contributing the most have the most input. The National Debt would not exist after a time.-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:31 PM

Yeah baby! While we are at it let us bring back slavery, make them sit in the back of the bus, segregate school populations and no votes for those who look different. No vote for those who wear the pants in most families; you know, the ones who used to wear dresses. *sarcasms* Archie Bunker's "Meatheads!"

-- Posted by maelstrom on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 6:17 AM

Republicans bad, democrats good....Blah,blah, blah.

Democrats bad, republicans good....Blah, blah, blah.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:13 AM

Duska

Are you suggesting that they join the Republican Party..... remember, the back of the bus was where Obama directed them?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:17 AM

If they would bury the dead above ground up North like they do down South, it wouldn't take the Democrats three days to get them to the polls.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:21 AM

Since we have all you Lib awake, what do you think of the Democratic vote at the convention that I mentioned earlier.... you seem to be wanting to ignore that?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:26 AM

Soldiers have died to protect the vote, now all of you want this taken away.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 AM

And Obama wants to lessen the soldiers vote.

BTW you said you had already voted. So what is all the crying about. Do you think people are getting wise to Obama?

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:53 AM

4 years ago voters waited 10 hours to vote and the polls closed. Laws were passed to accommodate voters now the repugnant party wants to shorten the hours. -- Posted by Dexterite1 on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 AM

If you looked anywhere but MSNBC to get your information you would know (aka KNOWLEDGE) that the case in Ohio involved closing early voting the weekend before the election to allow election officials to get ready for the real election the following Tuesday. You can vote early for 35 DAYS before the election. Buddy if you can't vote early 35 DAYS before an election you have bigger problems. The Obama administration is trying to stop military voters from voting early in Ohio.

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It seems to me, that the Republicans are trying to make it even more difficult to cast a vote. Don't any of you work? -- Posted by Reasoning on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 6:03 AM

In Missouri you can vote early with an absentee ballot. Your lack of voting knowledge is somehow the "republicans" fault? I doubt it. Your HS teacher in your civics class was more likely a democrat and Obama supporter. Apparently you didn't get that question on your 8th grade civics test?

-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:06 AM

The Obama administration is corrupt from the top to the bottom.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:09 AM

Whenever a country allows its citizens the right to vote themselves unearhned money from government collected funds, that county is doomed.

-- Posted by voyager on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:37 AM

"Our right to vote should be made as easy and accessible as possible.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012"

That statement tight there says it all. You have no clue what you're talking about. There is no right to vote in a Federal election. Voting is a privilege. The states set the criteria for how an individual receives that privilege. This is not my opinion it is a fact that has been ruled on by the Supreme Court.

-- Posted by Data48 on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:39 AM

Is there any reason the U. S. Constitution can not be amended to change voting day to the second Sunday of the month instead of Tuesday?

Oh, I forgot, folks will be going to church on

Sunday and that will interfere with voting. Of course, some will lie about going to church anyway.

In other words, Donacita,anyone who can't understand the current system of voting is really too dumb to be trusted with the vote.

-- Posted by voyager on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:46 AM

Wheels, Every administration from Washington to today are corrupt. It is the law of nature. Those who have the power to line their pockets with the least amount energy expended used will do so.

Washington with the whiskey tax benefited East Coast distillers at the expense of Western Pennsylvania distillers. Those on the East Coast had more power and prestige that those in the West. They bought the government they wanted.

In Massachusetts, its government voted to pay full value for Continentals. The soldiers that fought in the Revolution had to sell their Continentals at pennies on the dollar to support their families back home. Now their government was taxing them to pay full value to the speculators who payed them pennies on the dollar. The Shaw's rebellion, which probably should have been called the farmers rebellion, was against the taxes levied on them.

Corruption by both major parties is well entrenched in Washington and in state houses.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:52 AM

I had better go back to the farm, I write terribly.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:56 AM

BC,

Unfortunately for us, you are correct.

I remember about 50 years ago, sitting in a City Council meeting... an elderly attorney accusing the council members and mayor of corruption, and told them they had been in office too long. He further suggested that given two terms in office anyone with any intelligence could set up a corrupt government to work in their favor.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:01 AM

Rick: An analysis of 2008 returns in Cuyahoga County by the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law found that African Americans used early, in-person voting at approximately 26 times the rate of white voters. Whites, on the other hand, tended to favor voting by mail as a form of early balloting. The study used data from census tracts where the adult voting population was 80 percent or more black.

-- Posted by donacita on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:39 AM

The two party system keeps the public entertained. Political arguments keep their focus off important things.

The same people will benefit at the expense of others.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:42 AM

Donacita, what has that got to do with your assertion that blacks vote on Sunday after going to Church?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:43 AM

Here is a very good article that I believe is a wise one about voter suppression. Please, if you take the time to read it, do so with an open mind. I am not trying to persuade anyone. This article just expresses how many of us feel. To us, the right to vote is most definitely a right.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arch...

-- Posted by donacita on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:51 AM

News Flash. This just in.

Defenitive proof that Quadaffi and bin Laden are dead. Both just registered to vote in Chicago.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:57 AM

The Supreme Court ruled on the right to vote. I suppose they could have been as wrong here as they were on the legality of forcing people to buy insurance by calling it a tax through Obamacare.

Even so, it should not take a month plus election day to get your arse to the polls if you are a serious voter.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:13 AM

The basis of the controversy is rooted in the idea that states determine how elections for federal represention is achieved, not federal or county entities.

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:25 AM

Donacita,

Since you won't defend your assertions that blacks prefer to vote on Sunday after going to Church, maybe you would answer this.

Do you believe if white males preferred voting on early Saturday mornings right after the bars closed (1:00 to 2:00 am depending on where you live), that the poles should be open for them?

Do you think there should be special considerations on voting because of your race? And I do not care black or white, just should there be special considerations? Have we not all been Americans long enough to be able to blend in and be able to vote at a reasonably prescribed time?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM

"It seems there was a big go-round in Florida one election year about "hanging shad" on voters tickets."

Rick,

I feel compelled to tell you this... that was hanging "chad". It only smelled like three day old "shad". ;-)

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM

Rick,

I couldn't help it.... the devil made me do it. :-)

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:35 AM

that African Americans used early, in-person voting at approximately 26 times the rate of white voters. -- Posted by donacita on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:39 AM

Donacita - please answer these 2 simple questions:

Is Cuyahoga county in Ohio???

Does Ohio allow early voting for 35 DAYS before the election???

The lawsuit filed by Obama via Holder is to keep voting open for 4 MORE days (39 days) before the election. The state stopped EARLY voting on the weekend before the election to allow election workers to get ready for the "big" day the following Tuesday.

A third question - How in the world is 35 days of early voting "suppression"?

-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 12:19 PM

At least Frank Zappa agrees with me. From the Lew Rockwell Blog "Politics is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex."-Frank Zappa

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 12:25 PM

Ran into Frank at Joe's Garage hanging out with some Catholic girls. Interesting dude.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 12:31 PM

Dug,

Heard anything from Donacita yet?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 1:39 PM

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 12:25 PM

Suzy Creamcheese said the same thing.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 3:46 PM

Obama needs your vote now. Things are starting to unravel with the auto bailout and not to mention the Benghazi mess up that will change the mindset many. They want it now so you can't back out.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 3:53 PM

What can he say? Romney hates Bigbird is about as low as you can go. Maybe Cadi knows the game plan.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 4:15 PM

Romney wins.... Caddy has to give his acar to a rich dude.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 4:44 PM

Romney wins.... Caddy has to give his car to a rich dude.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 4:45 PM

What happened to Rick now?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 4:50 PM

"What happened to Rick now?"

Yeah, miss him already. He makes good points and asks good questions.

I'm sorry all his post are gone. Why couldn't they leave his "non-offending" posts? I don't even know what he said or to whom it was directed.

-- Posted by dchannes on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 7:59 PM

Republicans are Sinister

Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 9:07 PM

The Parties both may be as you say, but the it's government you need to be wary of.

dchannes: So anyone living in an apartment can't vote? No, your idea does not make sense.

-- Posted by donacita on Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 10:40 PM

Why? Property owners pay the most taxes. This was originally done for a very good reason. It wasn't my original idea.

My support of it is because then the poor don't get to vote themselves a raise in subsidy money extracted by the government from the property owners. As it is now, they don't have to look their benefactors in the face and say thank you. I think that's extremely rude. You may not understand this, but it's a major facet of Socialism that we have going on here. It WILL be this country's downfall.

If you want to go there, we can. It may take a while though. There's a whole bus load of homework you'll have to do. Or, you could just snipe at me. Whatcha got? :)

-- Posted by dchannes on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:39 PM

Not sure if people renting, or property owners should be the dividing line.

Maybe long time welfare recipients?

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 8:49 PM

Well it appears Donacita is running true to form. Starts a thread sniping at the Republicans then runs and hides when the going gets a little rocky. I think if you are going to start something as dumb as the name of this thread implies you should have the courage to stick around and defend your position. And either answer the questions or admit she was a little ambitious with the facts.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:04 PM

Wheels, Are you being Wheels again? ;)

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:24 PM

Yep!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:38 PM

Maybe we should go with taxpayers. I have friends that sold their homes and travel (wheels) or rented to make life easier. They are still taxpayer. Also anyone over 65 get to vote. By then most have grown up.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:39 PM

I wonder if this has anything to do with voting?

"DHS Report On Immigration: Lowest Number Of Illegal Alien Arrests Since 1972..."

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:53 PM

Regrets,

I think I will stay in my motor home until I cannot sit up straight enough to see over the steering wheel. Then I will hire someone to drive us to the nearest cruise ship and book 6 months of back to back cruises, where they have all the facilities to take care of us and enjoy life somemore.

Prime consideration, an internet connection to stay in touch with all in SEMO.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 9:57 PM

"Also anyone over 65 get to vote. By then most have grown up."

And if you're not around, a nursing home social services person will be happy to fill out your elders absentee ballot.

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM

Wheels

That's not fair. What about everyone else? You've had your fun. Don't we deserve to get to do that also? I think that is a very greedy thing to do.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:06 PM

I have a friend at the lake that goes around to the nursing homes to collect votes. He is well liked by the local politicians.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:09 PM

Wheels, I can still drive at night. :)

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:16 PM

Old John,

I will keep that in mind. Are you over 50, if so I will want you tested.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:23 PM

Regrets

I have been told that with the price of nursing homes, a cruise ship is less expensive and they have all of the services, and the food is outstanding.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:24 PM

Regret, My brother has cousins-in-laws that built their retirement dream home and after a couple of years got a wild hair to sell out and go on the road full time. According to face book comments they are loving it. Go for it!

-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:25 PM

Dug,Heard anything from Donacita yet? -- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 1:39 PM

Nothing - all I hear is crickets...

-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:40 PM

Dug

I asked questions she never answered also. It appears she took a powder.... or evaporated.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 10:45 PM

I really think she's a cartoon in real life. :)

-- Posted by dchannes on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:51 PM

This is the liberal approach. Talk about things that aren't true and, when questioned with facts, don't respond.

This little thread started by a liberal democrat and Obama supporter mirrors the Benghazi attack. Spread disinformation and, when questioned with facts, don't respond. And maybe no one will notice.

That worked in 2008. It won't work in 2012. Obama may win but the more people know about him the worse he looks. It'll be interesting to see how the VP debate goes tomorrow night with drunk Uncle Joe.

-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Oct 10, 2012, at 11:59 PM

What is ironic? A group of people on here gather and complain all day about the people who are out in the workforce supporting their families, because the missing working poster isn't responding to their queries.

-- Posted by Reasoning on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:51 AM

-- Posted by Reasoning on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:51 AM

What is unreasonable?

Someone "reasons" that in 12 hours of a no response that person *must* be at work? Do you know that from noon yesterday to midnight (now 6AM) that donacita is at work - or are you just pulling that thought of your... thin air?

I work two jobs. One full-time, one part time. What were you saying again about "people out in the work force"?

Again - unReasonable.

-- Posted by Dug on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 6:13 AM

Your republican congressmen voted earlier this year to reduce the number of people protecting the embassies in Libya and embassies.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 6:17 AM

Dexter, mine didn't.

-- Posted by voyager on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 10:10 AM

Dexter would be more believable if he would give us a few supporting facts to his charges.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 10:50 AM

I sure wish Caddy would show up with his prediction on how tonight's talent show will go between Ryan and Biden.

He did so well on the Romney and Obama show.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 11:22 AM

If he does more than grunt he will embarrass himself. He rarely makes it through a complete sentence without putting his foot in his mouth.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 11:34 AM

We will eventually know for sure who is lying. I would not say either way as I do not trust government or a reporter/columnist with an agenda.

I will say though.... up to this point I have had more respect for Jack Welch than I did anyone I can think of in government.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM

I saw his comments. They were sufficient without any ranting as you get from the liberals.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:18 PM

Where's donacita? Hey,she's a Democrat. It's a well deserved nap now for 30 minutes of typing. Union rules.

Posted this once before on another thread but it bears repeating.

The Republic will survive Obama but what is less likely is that it will survive the multitudes of idiots who vote for him.

-- Posted by dab1969 on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:38 PM

Maybe Donacita is watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCA...

-- Posted by Old John on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:49 PM

Wow. A lot has been going on while I was out running errands. I have forgotten the question/s I have failed to answer. But does it really matter? You just like to give me a hard time, and I have to get ready to watch Joe tonight, anyway. I can't wait!

-- Posted by donacita on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 6:06 PM

She either has a lot of errands or is awfully slow doing it.

So far as the questions.... they are still out there. I'm sure they will still be there next week if you find some time to defend what you opened up.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 6:09 PM

Joe Who? The Flight of the Phoenix is showing and I'm back to it shortly.

-- Posted by Old John on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 7:45 PM

Good show

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 7:49 PM

Guess Donacita is still watching Gigling Joe.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM

-- Posted by Reasoning on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 5:51 AM

-- Posted by donacita on Thu, Oct 11, 2012, at 6:06 PM

Donacita - you need to send a post or email to "Reasoning" - he/she thinks you've been working on a 24 hour shift non-stop. You'll have to tell them you were just running errands.

-- Posted by Dug on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 9:58 AM

There was something from way back when that went kinda like this..... 'It don't pay to advertise if you ain't got the goods'.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 10:09 AM

Joe Biden acted as expected...foolish.

-- Posted by voyager on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 10:11 AM

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interview with "Sixty Minute's" Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his

"best year."

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours

who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from

your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of

people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having

carried some rather "potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood,

which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble." Be

that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics,

where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl

Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper's

death in 1994. Two of Popper's most influential teachings concerned "the

open society," and Fallibilism.

Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge

could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about

that.) The "open society" basically refers to a "test and evaluate"

approach to social engineering. Regarding "open society" Roy Childs writes,

"Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed

Popper's advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social

reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess."

In 1956 Soros moved to New York City , where he worked on Wall Street, and

started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency

speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his

business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well

on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for "The American Thinker" she says,

"Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with

leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke

the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British

citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life

savings cut drastically, almost overnight."

In 1994 Soros crowed in "The New Republic ," that "the former Soviet Empire

is now called the Soros Empire." The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which

almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then

head of the House Banking Committee, to be "one of the greatest social

robberies in human history. "The "Soros Empire" indeed. In 1997 Soros

almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time,

Malaysia 's Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros "a = villain,

and a moron." Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, "We regard George Soros

as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people."

The website Greek National Pride reports, "Soros was part of the full court

press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine

and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros' role is to

tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World

Order while promoting his own financial gain.. He is without conscience; a

capitalist who functions with absolute amorality."

France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider

trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary

fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for "illegal market manipulation."

Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of

transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and

westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest

bank put Hungary 's economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is

still trying to recover.

My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and

gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia

's national newspaper "The Australian.." "America , as the centre of the

globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This

is now over. The game is out," he said, adding that the time has come for

"a very serious adjustment" in American's consumption habits. He implied

that he was the one with the power to bring this about."

Soros: "World financial crisis was "stimulating" and "in a way, the

culmination of my life's work."

Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in

order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama's

largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer,

George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).

Tait Trussel writes, "The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and

Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum

Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000

new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal,

state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security

and independence."

A blog you might want to keep an eye on is *SorosWatch. com.* Their

mission: "This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the

ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and

varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without

conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to

print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying

upon the world's poor, that justice will be served."

Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from

the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years

ago, news sources reported that "Soros [is] an extremist who wants open

borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on

and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous." In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote,

"Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the

moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the

American people. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about

license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a

PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements."

Perhaps the most important of these "whistle blowers" are David Horowitz

and Richard Poe. Their book "The Shadow Party" outlines in detail how Soros

hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel.

Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting

moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow

Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, "By his [Soros']

own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia , Croatia , Georgia ,

and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for "regime change," he

begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile,

ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has

built in America greatly rese mb les those he has created in other

countries prior to instigating a coup."

Nove mb er 2008 edition of the German magazine "Der Spiegel," in which

Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. )

should do after taking office. "I think we need a large stimulus package."

Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said

that "I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with

global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade

system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights."

Although Soros doesn't (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the

Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the

Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100

million dollars. According to an article by "The Baltimore Chronicle's"

Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlyle Group is run by "a veritable who's who of

former Republican leaders," from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and

ex-President George Bush, Sr.

In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick

Cheney's old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held

their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same

cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that's

Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama's

win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American

Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since

Clinton came on the scene.

Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren't

bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn't forget

to mention Soros' involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the

entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner),

and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to.

In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little

wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro's NEMESIS.

As Matthew Vadum writes, "The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has

been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his

message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too

wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run

their own lives."

Richard Poe writes, "Soros' private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5

billion, continues undermining America 's traditional Western values. His

giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization,

sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass

immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social

engineering."

Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with

his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for

America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In

America ), La Raza, and many more.. For a more complete list, with brief

descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.

Poe continues, "Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open

Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training,

indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50

countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media,

government, finance and academia."

Without Soros' money, would the Saul Alinsky's Chicago machine still be

rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious

activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government?

Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly

attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously

planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading

the way.

The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: "Is life so dear, or peace so

sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it,

almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give

me liberty, or give me death!"

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Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are

willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

-- Posted by Old John on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 12:33 AM

Rothkids and Rockerchildren are many, Soros is one and closer to a single coordinated effort in destroying for personal profit and power than the collective.

-- Posted by Old John on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 12:51 PM

Thank you OJ. Very informative and while revealing - not surprising. Look up the Soros "SOS" fund, it's well documented everywhere. The "Secretary of State" campaign funding he pushed and supported our secretary of state Carnahan. He figured that all elections are local and the SOS's of every state control voting rules and enforcement.

He supported the most liberal SOS candidates in every state that he could. It was successful - we now have Robin Carnahan who works hard to reword ballot measures to confuse voters and refuses to enforce voter identification or investigate numerous voter fraud incidents in Missouri.

-- Posted by Dug on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 1:13 PM

I think Kroft pretty well sums up the character of Soros: "Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach."

Also, what I keep trying to tell the Obama lovers on this site is that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism and guess what...the so called "Democratic" organization MoveOn.org is funded by Soros. They are doing all that they can to make sure the Socialist/Marxist/Communist Obama gets reelected. And that's just one little organization of many that he funds to further the destruction of our nation.

-- Posted by dchannes on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 1:17 PM

U.S.A is the same as Nazi Germany.

-- Posted by Dr. Doom and Gloom on Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 4:10 PM

I disagree with statement on it's face. However, The methodologies of control over the people used by the two governments are similar.

More and more the office of President is becoming a Kingship. Evidence of this is in the Executive Orders issued that somehow become codified into law, bypassing Congress altogether.

-- Posted by dchannes on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 1:25 PM

Oh yeah, and the site "Media Matters for America" is another George Soros funded Socialist machine of disinformation.

-- Posted by dchannes on Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 1:52 PM

It is not likely that any candidate could get elected to the presidency without the endorsement of the elite banking community.

The Democrats would not put up a candidate without their endorsement and that of the Beltway media. Obama meets their needs.

The Republican Party chose a candidate that meets with their approval and that of the Beltway Media.

Since both candidates are so similar, it is unlikely that the elite care which one gets elected.

Central banking and their elite group of private banks are on a mission, and that mission may not be suited with the best interests of middle class America.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 10:24 AM

Dr. Doom and Gloom, I think that Americans would have been better off under the Articles of Confederation. But the Articles didn't satisfy the needs of the power brokers.

Even Patrick Henry benefited greatly under the newly formed government.

I might add that my direct ancestors also benefited, but that doesn't make centralized robbery right.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 10:35 AM

Dr. Doom and Gloom, I don't think there is a need for rulers, but I do see a need for rules. I think that capitalism can best serve that need.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 1:06 PM

BC, Under the articles of confederation, free trade didn't fair too well with the mercantilists.

Neither did the veterans that fought and had to take inflated fiat for back pay.

-- Posted by Old John on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 1:21 PM

Old John, I think most Americans were better off before the Revolution. They were considered the richest and freest people in the Western world.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 1:51 PM

BC

It seemed to work out West before they became "civilized". Steal a horse, you became a part of history if you were caught. You didn't get an eternity of appeals to the process.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 1:55 PM

Wheels, British subjects in America were more civilized than those in the rest of the world. They simply had the freedom to be civilized.

In the last half of the 19th century, New york had a much higher rate of murders than in the West. New York had strict anti-guns laws which made New Yorkers easy victims.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 2:07 PM

Wheels, I realize there is an anti-immigration feeling among Americans today. It is what I call the Northern Europeanization of America.

At the time of the Revolution, only about a third of the people living in the colonies had come from England. It was the diversity of peoples that built the wealth of the colonials.

My surname is English, and we are a minority in this country, which is OK by me.

I realize this has nothing much to do with this thread, or does it?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 3:27 PM

I realize this has nothing much to do with this thread, or does it?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 3:27 PM

BC,

In as much as the author abandoned the thread I think you can talk about whatever you want to. As a matter of fact in this non-sterile environment, I think it is OK to talk about whatever pleases you when and where?

As to the anti-imigration feeling, there are a lot of anti feelings on a number of things, some of which are largely attributable to our President in my opinion.... at least as it pertains to racial divide and the divide between producers and takers. I suppose it serves a purpose.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM

Speaking of 'Sinister' it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/10/obama-...

Kind of reminds me of a bunch of hyenas going after a dead deer.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 3:59 PM

Wheels, It is government's role in the economy that provide for takers. It is not the actions of the recipients, they are just collecting the money thrown out of the window by government.

Producers will suffer as long as there is government.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 4:41 PM

Wheels, Obama http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/ar...

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 4:45 PM

Wheels

Just got back to the real world and it does look like Hillary must fall on her sword.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 8:00 PM

Can it be that Bill Clinton has evolved into a real life J.R. Ewing?

I think, not sure, but maybe those determinents resulting in who is responsible for embassay security are pre-Clinton administration. The shift of control from state to commerce had a lot of fine print shifting those rules.

BC, From what I have read, the west wasn't anywhere near as wild as the movies depict.

Wheels, They didn't call that popular revolver the Peace Maker for nothing.

-- Posted by Old John on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 11:51 PM

Election Day is Election Day that is when all of us vote. The early voting I don't like just my opinion. It starts in some States at the end of September during a cycle, next they will want to start in July prior to the election, how did we get to the early voting situation any way I thought that was what the actual election day was set for.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 8:35 AM

how did we get to the early voting situation any way I thought that was what the actual election day was set for.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 8:35 AM

Swamp,

That is my question also. Has the whole country gone nuts?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 9:27 AM

Wheels, Obama http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/ar...

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Oct 14, 2012, at 4:45 PM

BC,

Pretty good description I would say. But I think he is more like Bush on Steroids.

A picture is worth a thousand words proven again.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 9:32 AM

I am not anti-immigration. I am pro-immigration.

In fact, I think this country has lost much of its hard work ethic. Say want you want about immigrants, they still have a desire to work hard to support their families.

That said, we should not just open the borders to whoever wants to come. It still needs to be regulated and I think their is an opportunity for private industry to develop a seasonal migrant worker program.

-- Posted by Rational.Thought on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 10:49 AM

I think their is an opportunity for private industry to develop a seasonal migrant worker program.

-- Posted by Rational.Thought on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 10:49 AM

There already is. I sponsored 3 until the Democrats blew the economy.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 2:41 PM

"Say want you want about immigrants, they still have a desire to work hard to support their families."

RT, where did you get this "information"? You typing it out here doesn't make it true. In my experience, people are people. Being immigrants doesn't automatically make them hard workers.

I have known many hard working immigrants and many that were freeloaders and criminals.

-- Posted by dchannes on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 3:38 PM

Sorry D

Some of the best workers I have had. We do hard labor and most of the young people today do not have the work ethic needed to do the job. The liberal have ruined the worker pool by giving them the choice of make something of themselves or set on their butt and get a check anyway.

I am not for illegal immigrants since the liberals think they should be voters and get benefits.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 6:22 PM

I have known many hard working immigrants and many that were freeloaders and criminals.

-- Posted by dchannes on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 3:38 PM

I know many hard working and freeloading of every color and ethnicity. As much as some people are on here, I suspect you are forum friends with the same work spectrum.

-- Posted by Reasoning on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 7:04 PM

Interesting Tweet from Jake Gyllenhaal a democrat: "As a democrat, I'll say it now, I endorse Mitt Romney for President of the United States". The details: https://twitter.com/Jake_Gyllenhaal/stat...

You've got to see this video. Wheels coming off the wagon. Listen at least to the first 5 minutes. Great speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Og2xv2cn...

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 7:42 PM

"Wheels coming off the wagon."

Dug,

You make it sound like I am back to drinking again. Hell, I never stopped... so how could I have fallen off the wagon? ;-)

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 7:58 PM

Ha! Too funny. How about "It's going to hell in a handbasket"???

:-)

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 9:17 PM

Thank you Dug... I'm glad you clarified that. Don't want anybody besmirching my reputation you know. :-)

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Oct 15, 2012, at 9:20 PM

They can keep their 1.7% for all I care... but the COLA numbers are a farce. Leaving out food and fuel makes them a lie in my opinion. They are some of Americans larger expenditures, from the youngsters just getting out on their own to the social security recipients. Wonder what else they leave out of the COLA numbers.

Just another one of governments ways of misleading and lying to the public.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 10:23 AM

Rick,

Just follow the Pied Piper.

Soon we will all be drinking that free bubble up and eating rainbow stew. Probably guilty of plagiarism now... who said that first?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 11:21 AM

"Some of the best workers I have had."

Regret, I'm not arguing that fact. I've seen that facet of the immigrant populous as well. I agreed with what Reasoning said here: "I know many hard working and freeloading of every color and ethnicity."

Then he lost me here:

"As much as some people are on here, I suspect you are forum friends with the same work spectrum."

Reasoning, you mainly just come off as smug in your comments. You presume to have the answers and "forum friends" all pegged, but sooner or later, pride and arrogance get buried in a hole.

-- Posted by dchannes on Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 2:19 PM

Riҫk, I think Reasoning is implying that we don't work because we frequent this threads. He's just being a smarty pants. IMO

-- Posted by dchannes on Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 5:50 PM


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