Speak Out: Just a friendly reminder....

Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Sat, Oct 24, 2009, at 5:16 PM:

So what about Joe Buerkle and the $350,000 theft from a dead man?

Also...Commander Premier?? Money Collected?? Sold?

Some updates would be GREAT! Reporters??

Replies (55)

  • No...seriously. I want this answered.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 9:53 AM
  • and remember that Rush is a tool...

    http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93122?fp=1

    -- Posted by futile_rant on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 9:56 AM
  • I would think that almost everything that Obama wrote in college would have been scrutinized a long time ago. Limbaugh was foolish to believe that there would be any new developments from that era of Obama's life.

    But, if I remember correctly there were several quotes that were incorrectly attributed to Limbaugh during his NFL ownership bid by several "credible" news sources a couple of weeks ago.

    The spread of misinformation by the media only serves the interests of the state.

    -- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM
  • Ego: You and I have repeatedly inquired about this Buerkle case. We seem to be the only ones interested in finding out more. I guess people just don't care if it does not affect them. We are stuck with Swingle because no decent lawyer would take that job. Low pay for a lawyer. Stay tuned for no further developments.

    -- Posted by howdydoody on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 10:55 AM
  • $350,000, you say? Umph, umph, umph!

    -- Posted by voyager on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 1:11 PM
  • Oh sorry soyager, it was ONLY $325,000. My huge mistake. oops...*rolling eyes*

    http://www.semissourian.com/story/1566801.html

    Still a bunch of BS!

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 1:55 PM
  • I would think that almost everything that Obama wrote in college would have been scrutinized a long time ago. Limbaugh was foolish to believe that there would be any new developments from that era of Obama's life.

    But, if I remember correctly there were several quotes that were incorrectly attributed to Limbaugh during his NFL ownership bid by several "credible" news sources a couple of weeks ago.

    The spread of misinformation by the media only serves the interests of the state.

    -- Posted by lumpy on Sun, Oct 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM

    Which was also bad. However, Limbaugh really had no place to gripe since he does the samething on a daily basis. Yet, people will accept it from him...and then post the links on this forum.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 2:06 PM
  • For the last time, the VICTIM refused to press charges.

    So what can you do if you don't get any cooperation?

    Seriously, I have posted this same line in your earlier repeated question in this matter, but then ignore my posts and repeat the same stupid qestion.

    Just becasue you continue to ignore the primary FACTS behind the issue on no investigation, does not mean its going unanswered.

    So my question now is "WHAT PART OF THE VICTIM NOT PRESSING CHARGES" do you not understand.

    Oh wait, pretent that comment doesn't exist and post the same pointless question in a week.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 2:12 PM
  • lumbrgfktr,

    Please..SHOW ME where the victim was not pressing charges. The last I heard, they were STILL trying to contact the next of kin.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 2:18 PM
  • "Swingle attempted to contact the client's 27-year-old daughter, who lives in London and would be the beneficiary of the account."

    "They have not requested criminal prosecution yet," he said."

    "ATTEMPTED" to contact doesn't sound like they have anything "official" yet.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 2:20 PM
  • Ego,

    You are answering your own quesiton.

    Until they get vicitm cooperation, there won't be any criminal action.

    Take your frustration out on the victim then. Not the prosecutor.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 2:52 PM
  • LOL! If I've answered my own question...how is it the "victims" fault they can't be contacted? LOL!

    OMG...is the dead man going contact her? Geez.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 5:20 PM
  • Like I said, just let it go. How much would it cost for her to travel back-and-forth to testify?

    I'm sure less than $325,000.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 7:58 PM
  • An idee fixe?

    -- Posted by voyager on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 8:19 PM
  • Balzac.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 9:39 PM
  • futile_rant-

    your rant is futile

    -- Posted by Skeptic1 on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 10:35 PM
  • Theo: We bet you do and your about to .... in your pants to tell us.

    -- Posted by voyager on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 11:07 PM
  • Voyager...do you know what an idee fixe is?

    -- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 9:08 PM

    Something like being a legend in your own mind. Kinda like the opposite of sitting on the sidelines picking and carping at other people's concerns - then minimizing them further by laughing it off or diminishing their thoughts.

    -- Posted by blogbudsman on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 7:42 AM
  • Good one, not that it reminds me of anyone in particular...

    -- Posted by RA on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 8:15 AM
  • And me an' Coby all this time thought an idee fixe was French for obsession... I'm a gonna have to brush up on my dictionary.

    -- Posted by Hugh M Bean on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 10:58 AM
  • Hugh M Bean,

    It can be both an obsession and/or "a usually delusional idea that dominates the whole mental life during a prolonged period (as in certain mental disorders)--called also fixed idea." It seems similar, but not the same.

    And yes, I had to look it up.

    -- Posted by RA on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 11:18 AM
  • Ego,

    First off, the "victim" is not the deceased person. Instead its the proper owner of the fund.

    Second, I have a hard time believing your comment that they are unaware of anything that happened to their account.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 11:20 AM
  • "Second, I have a hard time believing your comment that they are unaware of anything that happened to their account."

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 11:20 AM

    Lumbrgfktr,

    It's not MY comment, this is a direct quote from the Missourian article.

    "Swingle attempted to contact the client's 27-year-old daughter, who lives in London and would be the beneficiary of the account."

    What's more troubling is that we have a situation like this out there ($325,000 STOLEN) by a local official of the court. Yet...we have NO follow-up on what or IF there will be any justice in the matter.

    Same for Commander Premier. Obsessive?? LOL! Excuse me and my "fiscal conservatism," but I actually care where the hell my local tax dollars are going, especially when my water/sewer rates are raised due to the incompetence of City officials.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 1:21 PM
  • EGO,

    This is not your matter. ITs the 27-year-old daugters matter.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 2:06 PM
  • Not my matter either (or yours I guess, lumb) ...

    But ... isn't theft ... theft? If my neighbor steals my jewelry, but I don't press charges because I do like her ... Does that mean it isn't a punishable crime?

    Guess not ... but it seems like it should be.

    Commander Premier isn't any of my concern, either ... but if my tax dollars had been spent (or wasted), I'd certainly be expecting some answers and justifications ...

    -- Posted by gurusmom on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 4:22 PM
  • Gurusmom,

    Should it be? Yes.

    But for a prosecutor, its not the crime that matters, but what you can prove. how do you prove a crime occured if nobody was telling anybody waht was stolen. Especially since there is an attourney client privladge.

    Vise Versa, if you are a juror would you be willing to convict somebody if the victim says no crime occured?

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 4:30 PM
  • Lumbr,

    First of all

    "Despite a former Cape Girardeau lawyer being disbarred last month for admitting to embezzling money from a client's bank account, criminal charges have not yet been filed."

    Embezzling-

    To take (money, for example) for one's own use in violation of a trust.

    Now...if you want to get into semantics

    Embezzle, steal, take...how many ways you want to call it. Don't be blind and stupid playing devils advocate here.

    If you're going to be that way...then we can also say that Buerkle's act could also be deemed as socialistic wealth redistribution. Funny...coming from an employee of the LIMBAUGH firm huh?

    Second of all, it is ANY citizen's right if they so be it. If one looks carefully at the laws and rights enabled into a Citizen's Arrest, though a citizen doesn't see the crime actually take place, there is a grey area where this could very well be incorporated.

    As previously stated, though the local citizenry didn't personally see the crime take place, we have an admission through statements made by the paper, and we have a disbarrment "for some reason" that has taken place.

    Odd enough, our Prosecutor has no problem prosecuting a flag burning incident that has been taking off the books by Federal Precidence, but yet fails to prosecute a crime that he has KNOWLEDGE has taken place. Strange if you ask me.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 10:05 PM
  • So curious. Why has the alledged victim not alledged a crime being comitted by an alledged perpetrator? For what alledged reason? Was the alledged crime reported the actual alledged crime committed? We need an alledged investigator to untangle this alledged scenerio.

    James Patterson, where are you when we need you? Unfortunately, Michael Dunn has gone to his eternal reward, alledgedly.

    Working title of the resulting book: "The Mystery of the Alledged Unwilling Victim."

    I've got a very alledged suspicious mind.

    -- Posted by voyager on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM
  • Soyager,

    I have never read the word "alledged" in any of these articles.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 10:36 AM
  • Well, Buster, you have now (alledgedly)!

    -- Posted by voyager on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 11:27 AM
  • Seriously. I would like the Missourian to clarify. Has the next of kin been contacted or not?

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 12:15 PM
  • Seriously. I would like the Missourian to clarify. Has the next of kin been contacted or not?

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 12:15 PM

    That is the question you should be asking. Instead of your pointless (possibly just premature) rants agains Swingle.

    So, Have you officially contacted the Missourian or other media outlets anout it, or just complained on a messageboard.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM
  • lumbrgfktr = Just another slap happy big mouth backing incompetence. Does it ever end?

    lumbrgfktr,

    I've been watching your posts progress. You have NO facts or proof of what Morley has or hasn't done. Furthermore, your spelling during your posts has been most atrocious, so I'm finally calling you out on it. Frankly...you can go back to the hole you crawled out of out.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 9:43 PM
  • Ego, shame on you for your rudeness towards lumber. We expect a higher lever of discourse from you. Did someone say something not in goodhearted jest which hurt your tender feelings and which activated your whoopie cushion?

    -- Posted by voyager on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 10:12 PM
  • Well we all know about good ole boys clubs, and M.S. is near the top of the heap here. And if he knows you he will manage to protect his friends.

    -- Posted by 44044 on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 8:43 AM
  • Soyager,

    Why don't you join him? ;o)

    Rick,

    That's a reasonable question, so I'll give you a reasonable answer. I pay approximately 27.5% in taxes per year. According to the population clock there are approximately 308 million individuals on this planet.

    Now...IMO all "capital" is derived from taxes and consumer purchasing. "Wealth Redistribution" in it's crudest form.

    So I've devised a formula.

    There was $325,000 taken, I divided that number by the amount of population, then multiplied it by 27.5%

    Reasonably...of the $325,000 approximately .0002 of that was mine. But here is where things really pick up speed.

    The fact that Mr. Buerkle is a citizen in the County and City of Cape Girardeau...I "must" have vested interested in the matter as a taxpayer on that front too.

    So he's taken this $325,000 wiped it around town, spending it and using it within the County (we presume)

    Soo If we take that $325,000, divid by Cape's population 37,525 then multiply it by the city of Cape's tax table 8% to make things easy. .6928 cents of that money is mine. Now...if we add them together that's .6928 cents.

    So if you look at it like this Buerkle embezzled taxpayer and consumer based monies.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 8:48 AM
  • This has nothing to do with taxes and no one is personally out of any funds who is not directly involved. Absent criminal prosecution, funds can be recovered in civil proceedings where the rules of evidence are less stringent and degrees of responsibility can be determined re responsibility of employer oversight and such in addition to punitive damages.

    I really don't understand the obsession with this.

    I accept that he "deserves" criminal sanctions, but I am not going to lose sleep over it.

    Some appear to have CDO, that is like OCD, but with the letters arranged the way they are supposed to be...

    -- Posted by RA on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM
  • lumbrgfktr = Just another slap happy big mouth backing incompetence. Does it ever end?

    lumbrgfktr,

    I've been watching your posts progress. You have NO facts or proof of what Morley has or hasn't done. Furthermore, your spelling during your posts has been most atrocious, so I'm finally calling you out on it. Frankly...you can go back to the hole you crawled out of out.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Wed, Oct 28, 2009, at 9:43 PM

    Sorry about the spelling. I will start paying more attention.

    Sorry about the spelling. I will start paying more attention.

    What "proof" do I need to offer? Its obvious the victim doesn't want to have anything more to do with this. However, somebody on this message board (YOU) seems to be the one pressing it.

    Here is your Proof: The victim has yet to come forward and press charges. So, there is your proof.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 10:31 AM
  • Embezzling-

    To take (money, for example) for one's own use in violation of a trust.

    Now...if you want to get into semantics

    Embezzle, steal, take...how many ways you want to call it. Don't be blind and stupid playing devils advocate here.

    If you're going to be that way...then we can also say that Buerkle's act could also be deemed as socialistic wealth redistribution. Funny...coming from an employee of the LIMBAUGH firm huh?

    Second of all, it is ANY citizen's right if they so be it. If one looks carefully at the laws and rights enabled into a Citizen's Arrest, though a citizen doesn't see the crime actually take place, there is a grey area where this could very well be incorporated.

    As previously stated, though the local citizenry didn't personally see the crime take place, we have an admission through statements made by the paper, and we have a disbarrment "for some reason" that has taken place.

    Odd enough, our Prosecutor has no problem prosecuting a flag burning incident that has been taking off the books by Federal Precidence, but yet fails to prosecute a crime that he has KNOWLEDGE has taken place. Strange if you ask me.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 10:05 PM

    I am not playing devil's advocate. Just being logical.

    Citizen's arrest? Seriously? Then why have you not followed through on your words?

    And you are comparing two different things.

    First off, the flag burner did violate Missouri law, so was arrested. He was eventually released because of the Supreme court case. Not sure what the big stink is about that. Looks like the process is working. The issue is that there is a bogus law still on the books.

    Second, until the victim comes forward you have no case. It's as a simple as that. That isn't Morley's fault. Maybe the Limbaugh's paid them off. Maybe it was money illegally acquired. Who knows. But its obvious the victim is not pursuing.

    But hey, why let somthing like obvious facts and truth cloud your argument.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 10:39 AM
  • "According to the population clock there are approximately 308 million individuals on this planet." -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 8:48 AM

    Don't you mean the population of the United States instead of the whole planet. Your math premise is a bit far fetched and needs to be rechecked.

    Next time before posting you might want to have that second cup of coffee (or whatever stimulant of choice).

    -- Posted by voyager on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 11:01 AM
  • Planet..United States. Now we're talking semantics again. According to the most of the republicons in here, the US rules the entire planet anyway.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 2:09 PM
  • lumbrgfktr:

    victims don't "press charges"

    prosecutors do.

    -- Posted by Ike on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 10:57 AM

    Fine. Split haris.

    Victim needs to make a formal complaint.

    -- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 2:17 PM
  • Nice slide for base there, Ego, but it throws your math premise into a cocked hat. Never let a little accuracy stand in the way of making a pointless pointed point.

    -- Posted by voyager on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 3:53 PM
  • May be so, Ego, but you sure are trying hard as you can to replace them and rule yourself...a receipe for international diaster!

    -- Posted by voyager on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 4:14 PM
  • "May be so, Ego, but you sure are trying hard as you can to replace them and rule yourself"

    You're finally starting to understand. I thought for sure the Crown would have gotten the message through much earlier.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM
  • Ego,

    Oh, The majority have understood you for a very long time. The only question was to which funny farm to send you (or which would take you).

    -- Posted by voyager on Thu, Oct 29, 2009, at 8:58 PM
  • LOL...I know something about you. Sheriff coming?

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Fri, Oct 30, 2009, at 8:12 AM
  • Ego, Gotta know where I am first. I travel a lot. Screen name well chosen. I'm sure you understand wireless access to the internet from a laptop.

    Trig says good morning.

    -- Posted by voyager on Fri, Oct 30, 2009, at 8:58 AM
  • Theorist,

    Please enlighten us, I thought I did, but I guess I am wrong and apparently so are the websites I double checked.

    -- Posted by RA on Fri, Oct 30, 2009, at 9:16 AM
  • Theorist,

    Now how in the heck was that called for. I really would like to know.

    I posted on here earlier that I didn't know what it was and had to look it up, but apparently there is more to it than that.

    I don't speak German, so I don't get your point.

    -- Posted by RA on Fri, Oct 30, 2009, at 9:35 AM
  • Trig says good morning. LOL! How's that baby of yours doing?

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Fri, Oct 30, 2009, at 10:11 AM
  • Trig slept in this morning and only now bestirred himself to go out and then partake of a little brunch. He also knows this is the day we visit the Health Care Center to visit his friend Mary and a chain of other adquaintences.

    You make it to church today?

    -- Posted by voyager on Sun, Nov 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM
  • Soyager,

    You've succeeded in confusing me. Gender issues?

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Sun, Nov 1, 2009, at 4:13 PM
  • Me, confuse you? Why such a high compliment?

    Trig will become a therapy dog. They visit patients in nursing homes and bring a little joy, love and happiness.

    -- Posted by voyager on Sun, Nov 1, 2009, at 11:18 PM
  • Ohhh...That Trig.

    -- Posted by Egotistical_Bigot on Mon, Nov 2, 2009, at 12:05 AM

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