Speak Out: Nov 8, 2016 - America Finally Elects a Real President Dedicated to US Interests

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Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 10:25 AM:

And today Trump explained what those interests are.

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    Imagine Lettau and Sneller berating a slogan such as "Make America Great Again!"

    Standing up for your country is suddenly a bad thing with them.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM
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    Today Trump showed the world, we now have a leader in the US. In the process, he showed the previous President up as the Community Organizer he really was.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 4:22 PM
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    Today the world found out that the USA has a President who is a leader with proactive ideas of what the world is now and what it should be....thank God that Hillary didn't win.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 8:48 PM
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    Semo471

    Don't always agree with Trump's way of doing things but basically agree with what he is working towards.

    Didn't see all of his speech. Came in on it late. But what I saw I liked and was impressed with his presentation. He pulled no punches. The can has been kicked down the road so long, the Korean Kid doesn't expect anyone to do anything.

    I think Trump will fool him.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Sep 19, 2017, at 9:49 PM
  • Some I liked , some I didn't . But I didn't get to see all 41 minutes either though .

    I disagreed with getting involved with Venezuela .

    He has to do something about North Korea besides the boasts , he can talk the talk , but can he walk the walk . North Korea continues to shoot rockets no matter what threat he's made so far , now he's made a promise on the world stage . He did not mention the lack of full support from Russia or China on the North Korean issues . He did not mention the South China Sea or Balkan issues .

    He was spot on about the Iran deal being an embarrassment .

    He was spot on about America will always come first .

    He was spot on about terrorist .

    But like I said , I didn't get to see the entire 41 minutes . I'm thinking the "Rocket Man" wasn't a wise thing to do .

    My opinion , the next President should be Nikki Haley .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 5:07 AM
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    Rick

    I don't like the idea of us getting involved in Venezuela's problems.

    But I do agree with what Trump said about Socialism and it's effects on Venezuela. There stands an example for the whole world of what can happen to a once peaceful and prosperous country.

    The United States is headed in that direction.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:11 AM
  • The newest anti American talking point trial balloon says Trump committed a war crime by threatening to destroy N Korea.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 8:46 AM
  • I believe Trump said he would destroy North Korea if it attacked America .

    I'm thinking Venezuela could be another nagging problem that has a possibility of turning into Vietnam but that's just me . Let's take care of our own Socialism problem first before anyone else -- America first .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 9:13 AM
  • Iran was an embarrassment but be careful , it could turn into another North Korea , what does it have to lose ?

    Dumb arse Obama screwed that one up from the floor up . I'm sure Iran has been working on missiles and rockets , just not nukes (but it is on the side) . I'd bet a dollar against a donut they've sent some technology to North Korea too , North Korea just isn't all that smart to get where it is in such a short time -- they aren't all that plus a free bag of chips too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 9:20 AM
  • "...says Trump committed a war crime by threatening to destroy N Korea."

    Where in the world do you find all these goofy claims. Saying what he did was bombastic and sophomoric, but hardly a crime of any sort.

    Were you to take out the childish name-calling and vacuous, absurd conclusions, the "speech" he read was not that much different that that of other recent Presidents.

    All since Eisenhower have called for reorganizing the UN to greater efficiency and effectiveness, stressed the need to cooperate collectively, "demanded" more equitable cost sharing, warned against nuclear proliferation, encouraging greater involvement in peace-keeping efforts, identified both friends and foes, and recognized that all nations maintain their own interests as the first priority.

    None of those assertions are anything novel, innovative or ground-breaking.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 3:03 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 3:03 PM

    Ulrich, my boy, you can use all the two bit words you like to try and discredit Trunp.

    Bottom line they are meaningless and show nothing more than your displeasure at Trump for having shown up his predecessor for the impotent fool he was.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 5:17 PM
  • Sorry about that. I forgot that you require simple words.

    I'll make a point of using 2nd grade words for you next time.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 6:21 PM
  • http://thehill.com/homenews/media/351358-abcs-moran-trump-n-korea-rhetoric-borde...

    Not my idea, it comes from unhinged democrats on one of their favorite news networks.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 6:38 PM
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    Sorry about that. I forgot that you require simple words.

    I'll make a point of using 2nd grade words for you next time.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 6:21 PM

    It's not that I require simple words Ulrich, it that I seek the no BS truth. Not a bunch of flowery words trying to pass yourself off as someone relavant.

    Now why don't you respond to Richard since he came back with proof of what you tried to bash as untrue.

    You owe him an apology Ulrich.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:10 PM
  • I'd show him proof of illegals voting for Hillary and then reference where Hillary claims she can win in the redo, but common may have a meltdown trying to defend Obama and her at the same time.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:32 PM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:32 PM

    Richard

    Lay it on him, he's been in never never land since Nov 9th 2016 anyway.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:52 PM
  • Ralph I was away from any news today except top of hour ABC and CBS radio headlines, but it's still easy to stay ahead of and predict the far left. They always have to come together for a couple of days before spewing the story they think the public is dumb enough to believe.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 8:21 PM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 7:32 PM

    OJ: Common wouldn't know the truth if it hit him between the eyes.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 8:25 PM
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    Richard

    Right now the Leftist media has a huge problem of what do we report about the wire tapping of the Trump campaign.

    When Trump suggested this months ago, he was ridiculed for suggesting such a preposterous idea.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 8:32 PM
  • Next they will be saying Trump used campaign money to pay his lawyers to defend himself and his advisers against those preposterous claims.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 10:19 PM
  • More laughter ringing out. Come on guys, get real for a change...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 10:23 PM
  • If fire fighters fight fires what do freedom fighters fight ?

    This would be my question for Trump ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 10:42 PM
  • Obama never had an answer , just a stare down his nose..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 11:00 PM
  • More laughter ringing out. Come on guys, get real for a change...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 10:23 PM

    Yep, you are almost as funny as your favorite comedian that stole an election and is now pretending everyone in the room is convinced the leftists are there to help them out of the poverty they perpetuate to maintain a reason to vote for them.

    Let's see, just how many votes were found in the truck of cars and elsewhere, how much money was poured in from wealthy democrats to get the republican candidate to give up and let Al the comedian in?

    People are wising up. Over half the young folks in blue states can't even name the vice president or tell us who the second president was. The plan of cradle to grave state education and total federal control over every part of life is being exposed and the good leftist will continue to follow his gods of government.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 11:19 PM
  • Did anybody catch Obama's press conference yesterday where he broke his arm patting himself on the back about his Legacy ? Not only did he explain his method to divide the Nation , he also explained his mission was to teach the young aspiring Leaders his methods of how to keep the Nation divided .

    The current Tweeter-in-Chief Trump is having enough problems , he doesn't need any help from the bonafided anus wipe Obama suddenly popping up out of no where stirring the pot even more .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 7:38 AM
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    Obama owes Trump the same respect he received from Bush, who was gracious enough to keep his mouth shut while Obama stumbled ed around like the simple fool he is.

    There is class and then their are those totally devoid of class.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 7:49 AM
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    More laughter ringing out. Come on guys, get real for a change...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 20, 2017, at 10:23 PM

    Common: It's you and your Snowflake ideas that we are laughing at....you're good for something after all.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 8:27 AM
  • Congress appears to be on the same course of action as the Congress that created the original health care Law , pass it as fast as possible and worry about what happens later .

    Obama the hypocrite had the nerve to say Congress was wrong for doing what it's doing . He claims the "Republicans" have had 7 years to get a plan but don't have one . Hey , Barack , how long did the "Democrats" have a "plan" before they crammed something down the American's throats to see what happens later ?

    Congress is missing the point , it shouldn't be a Federal Mandated Law , a person shouldn't have to purchase a commerce . Right now it's all about politics and money ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM
  • Who all's been participating in the forums long enough to remember "Bump" as a way to get a quiet thread restarted?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 7:47 PM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 7:47 PM

    OJ: Apparently "Bump" didn't work.

    *******

    Another 600 more jobs....Make America Great Again!

    http://www.newsmax.com/World/Europe/EU-Germany-Daimler-Alabama/2017/09/21/id/814...

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 8:33 PM
  • semo, We had one guy that did that ump thing to bring his thread back to the top.

    Locating manufacturing where people want jobs upsets the progressives.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM
  • Congress just passed Legislation to expedite the use of driverless vehicles , I wonder if these will be driverless vehicles .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:19 PM
  • Congress passes bill on self-driving cars

    The United States Congress on Wednesday passed a bipartisan driverless car bill, advancing what could become the first set of federal laws for the emerging industry, reported The Hill.

    The “Self Drive Act” was unanimously approved by the House Energy and Commerce Committee in July, before Congress left for August recess, and passed the full House on a voice vote.

    http://nation.com.pk/international/06-Sep-2017/congress-passes-bill-on-self-driv...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:23 PM
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    Who all's been participating in the forums long enough to remember "Bump" as a way to get a quiet thread restarted?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 7:47 PM

    Richard,

    That would have been Meglomaniac, or something like that. I called him Megalo for short.

    He was going to build a Canjo (Banjo) out of a metal gas can. I think he and the City of Cape had some difference of opinion about some fancy chickens he inherited. Wonder what happened to him anyway. A nice guy.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:37 PM
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    Off to bed to ice a sore shoulder. This therapy is hell.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:39 PM
  • Ralph, just remember, beats a cold slab of marble. :)

    Rick, I think that is not as the media is reporting. I haven't read the link though but will.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 21, 2017, at 9:54 PM
  • Something for those protestors

    ............

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 8:08 AM
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    The protesters in St. Louis has too much time on their hands. Do they have jobs or are they on George Soros' payroll for being professional protesters.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 8:16 AM
  • The self drive act seems to be more about federal regulation and standards for collision avoidance systems than self driving cars. It does allow less restrictions in testing on public roads.

    I have always said someday cars will be required to interact with speed restrictions in construction and school zones so the vehicle won't be able to exceed speed limits.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 8:17 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 8:08 AM

    Rick,

    I would contribute to a fund to bring that apparatus to St. Louis for further testing.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 11:10 AM
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    Rick & Wheels: A cheaper way of crowd control in St. Louis would be to hold a Job Fair near the protest site.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Sep 22, 2017, at 11:40 AM
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    Has anyone seen Lettau lately? Sneller? Now the their democrat party leaders in St. Louis have honored a multiple convicted drug dealer with 4 records of police chases? That attempted to hit police?

    If you want to vote democrat by all means do so. Just know what you support.

    And Lettau says he "served" in the military? Yet worships democrat politicians as a god?

    The democrat party continues it's decline.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 9:34 AM
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    Dug: Mic2 might have been arrested in the St. Louis protest and Common has went up to bail him out of jail.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 10:48 AM
  • St.Louis is headed the way of other cities that have been under Progressive Democrat leadership that sees anyone below their success as victims needing their promise of help by punishing the other wealthy people.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 11:34 AM
  • More fabrications. Where did you find this nugget of misinformation, Mr. Bess?

    Or is this another one of those "Top Secret" plans that only SO conservatives know about?

    It has to be that, since no one else believes it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 11:52 AM
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    It has to be that, since no one else believes it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 11:52 AM

    Common: And you know this how?

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 12:49 PM
  • Lettau, Google this guy who is a no one else and then I can give another reading assignment.

    http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/attheintersectionoffaithandculture/2014/02/r...

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 1:34 PM
  • Here's Ralph and me aruing who is the biggest speak out dummy; common or ms. https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitj7i6NBj3qHr2deJIEzAMSSYQKrvWws6Z8IJ...

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 2:18 PM
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    Richard,

    You must have taken a selfie while I was intent on making my point.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 2:58 PM
  • Sorry, both the "white Limbaugh" and the "black Limbaugh" are equally idiotic.

    That you believe their babbling is highly telling, and very characteristic of SO conservatives.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 3:57 PM
  • Who is it that has been babbling about Obama the Great for these past years?

    Babbling about the demise of the Republican party? Babbling about anyone who doesn't go along with your socialistic ideas?Who has no answer to anything except resorting to calling other posters SO conservatives?

    That's why your opinions have lost any credibility.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 4:42 PM
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    It has to be that, since no one else believes it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 11:52 AM

    Common: And you know this how?

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 12:49 PM

    Common: You never answered me or was your foot in your mouth.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 6:00 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 3:57 PM

    Ulrich,

    You have no credibility!

    I will take the words of a black conservative on what the problems are in the black community over those of a Leftist Obama Lover any day.

    I personally see the damage Democrats are doing to these people by keeping them in poverty and obliged politically for the promised handouts.

    In way too many cases their self pride has been destroyed.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 6:31 PM
  • Mr Lettau, You know, the harder you try to sound liberal and open-minded, the less you actually sound...liberal and open-minded. Too bad you've lost your way.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Sep 23, 2017, at 7:34 PM
  • DA, We should give him some slack and try not to be mean. After all, he is a veteran that fought for our freedom and rights to be SO conservatives and make up things about socialism that has never worked in respect to individual freedom and liberty.

    He has a lot on his plate to juggle, responding to anything negative said about Obama, then there's the highway engineering job prestige he has to maintain and his disdain for capitalism while supporting wealth redistribution.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 12:11 AM
  • Mr. Schaefer,

    I know this because I listen, I read, I study issues, I consider more than one side of a question, and I consider the source of information.

    For example, when Mr. VanGennip says he "takes the word" of a "black conservative" it tells me that facts don't seem to matter, as long as the conservative party line is religiously adhered to. Unsurprisingly, that limits his credibility.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:21 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:21 AM

    Ulrich

    As usual, no credibility and as full of it as a Christmas Goose.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 7:27 AM
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    I know this because I listen, I read, I study issues, I consider more than one side of a question, and I consider the source of information.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:21 AM

    Common: You are not the only one that does this so it's just your opinion just like I have my opinion....it's just sad that your opinions are always wrong.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 8:27 AM
  • Interesting. However, you claiming that my "opinions are always wrong," is just your opinion.

    To me, your opinions are based on invalid presumptions.

    For example, holding a job fair and protesting something, have nothing to do with each other.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 9:43 AM
  • Mr. Bess,

    With all due respect, I don't need any "slack" and I recognize that what you seem to consider "being mean" I look at as being foolish.

    This is particularly applicable to things you make up, like the silly claims of democrats wanting everyone to be poor, or better yet, the "top secret" plans.

    Another example is my supposed "disdain for capitalism." What could you base that on, as I've worked successfully for private "capitalistic" companies since 1991.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 10:20 AM
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    For example, holding a job fair and protesting something, have nothing to do with each other.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 9:43 AM

    Common: You don't have much of a sense of humor, do you. Let me explain it to you - holding a job fair at a protest will scatter those who don't have jobs because all they want to do is to protest and get some tv time. It must be that Nov. 9 2am 2016 sore loser mentality.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 10:52 AM
  • Nothing to worry about. I knew exactly what you were referring to, and it was a bit funny.

    But overall, I've found that conservatives in general (and the SO ones in particular) to be among the most humorless individuals on the planet.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 11:02 AM
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    Common: This for you: A termite walks into a bar and asks - Is the Bartender here?

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 11:21 AM
  • And the answer is, "No more tender than any other place."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 12:12 PM
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    Wow, Common you do have a sense of humor. Now if you would just lighten up things about Trump wouldn't upset you so much.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 1:54 PM
  • Mr Lettau. Yo were the one that used "top secret" not me. Perhaps you could explain what is meant by Equality you and your party support.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 3:29 PM
  • semo, If a Democrat is standing shoulder deep in sewer and someone throws a bucket of snot at him....Will he duck?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 3:33 PM
  • A smart liberal, a dumb liberal, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus all come to a four way stop at exactly the same time. Who has the right of way?

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 4:10 PM
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    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 4:10 PM

    Where did you find the Smart Liberal?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:04 PM
  • RV,the dumb liberal has the right of way. The other three are fictitious characters.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:41 PM
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    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 5:41 PM

    😂😂😂😎

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 6:22 PM
  • Watched some of the golf today and flipped over to Sportscenter to find the lead story with pics of NFL players dissing the Anthem in various ways. The first comment by one of the talking heads went something like-You will remember where you were this day when the NFL players blah blah blah blah.

    I remember where I was when Kennedy was shot. I remember where I was when MLK was shot. I remember where I was as I watched the second plane hit the World Center.

    To even equate this NFL thing with those events with that language and as the lead sports network story put me off further than I already was. I've already had a personal boycott for years not watching the NFL. I understand their revenues are way down. Good deal.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 6:58 PM
  • Some one asked if I would go to a game it it was only $200....Maybe for $300 if I was paid in cash. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 7:37 PM
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    revenues are way down. Good deal.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 6:58 PM

    DA: Hurt them in the pocket book and the NFL will set up some rules concerning the National Anthem.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 9:28 PM
  • Perhaps you could explain what is meant by Equality you and your party support.

    Still waiting.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 9:42 PM
  • That's not difficult, equality of opportunity has always been the case.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 9:59 PM
  • I see, thanks for explaining.

    Next question is how can your party be for equality of opportunity and tell certain people they need your help to have it through affirmative action programs. Isn't that saying they need your help because they are inferior without your parties help? Conservatives believe we are all equal and no one needs to be told they are victims and dependent on a political party to have equal opportunity.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 10:41 PM
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    I can't do anything to put the hurt on these Prima Donna sports figures. They are paid in millions and they have grievances.... give me a break. Football, baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer.... I haven't been a fan of any of them for years. I could care less if they never played another game. See one of them interviewed on TV and their vocabulary for the most part consists of "you know" repeated over and over again.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 10:51 PM
  • But Ralph, it about the free speech Mr Lettau spent years defending.

    let me sign off tonight with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbbGi3mTjCo

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 11:19 PM
  • "Isn't that saying they need your help because they are inferior without your parties help?"

    No it is not. The conservative claim that "we are all equal" is a nice thought but delusional. Having equal opportunity is not being "equal," but also does not give anyone a "victim" label, as conservatives are fond of applying.

    And I'm still waiting for a source for the "you need our help" assertion. That help is available to a few through affirmative action does not imply "inferiority."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:31 AM
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    You want Socialism Ulrich? Better take a look at Venezuela. They were sold your Leftist Socialism and now they have the full fledged version of what you promote.

    Aren't they lucky?

    I have pointed this out a good number of times over the past few years, but people like you, blinded with leadership's propaganda are too tunnel visioned to see that you are wrecking America as surely as Venezuela was wrecked.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:44 AM
  • If I decide to watch any sport it's to see the game and not a song . I hear all about player unity but find it ironic when each player holds out for their own personal contract raise or extention . I'll also try to remember their heart fell poor pitiful us the next time the NFL goes on strike for millions more of $$$$ . Will any players who don't kneel now be chastised for not kneeling , will their free speech be taken away ?

    I see pics of the very first guy whoever kneeled , somebody had to kneel behind him to take his pic . Wouldn't they be as guilty as he was too ? Just who is protesting what . Why not just stop playing the song altogether , it's a freakin' game , not a National tragedy .

    The south of American is under water and the west of America is on fire .

    Times like these , it's good to be one of the Peoples with our own Nation , such small lightening doesn't make so loud of a thunder . All of these protests , all of this madness ..every storm runs out of rain ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 8:49 AM
  • The statists idea of equal opportunity exists only when limited to some by the state and given to others by the state. Upon what reason is it decided who needs help?

    You say: "And I'm still waiting for a source for the "you need our help" assertion.",then next point out that help is available through affirmative action. If the assertion is wrong, why do you support affirmative action?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 8:58 AM
  • It is equal opportunity not equal outcome . Obviously the affirmative action social engineering experiment does not work . Anyone who remembers Pruitt–Igoe would remember when the experiment began and can see where it is now .

    I would ask all of the Obama freaks who will back him until the day they die , what happened , why didn't his Administration , or DOJ , take care of the social unrest --"blacklivesmatter" , AKA Ferguson -- before his term was over , why kick the can down the road .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 9:23 AM
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    Gotta love these limousine liberals their so-called campaign for "just us".

    At the Muny last summer you would pay a lot of money for a ticket, pay for parking, etc. to see a good show. Guess what the actors do prior to the show? Come out and start bashing republicans on stage.

    That is why the NFL and the players are wrong and will be in trouble. a) people don't need the NFL to survive and can do without it b) these are the top 1% of Americans whining about their treatment and c) people pay a lot of money to see a game and not political or racist statements.

    How about the West Point guy and Army Ranger that went out by himself in Pittsburgh? Then the stupid coach criticizes the guy for going out?

    Democrats showing their true stripes... this is why Hillary and Lettau have gotten their teeth kicked in for the past 8 years.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 10:05 AM
  • *

    Tim Tebow took a knee and said a prayer during a football game and the news media criticized him for doing so and now the news media is saying how great these football players are for taking the knee during the National Anthem. The news media just supports those that try to downgrade the USA by not supporting Christian ideas and supporting ideas that tear the USA apart.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 10:34 AM
  • "...the "you need our help" assertion."

    There is a 100% difference between claiming that the "government" says "you need our help," and the "government" offering help through affirmative action to those that are able to take advantage of it.

    As I said, no one that I'm aware of has ever said that "you need our help" or worse yet, "you can't make it without our help."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 12:27 PM
  • *

    It's implied Ulrich..... it's implied, get it?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • RV,looks like someone is demanding the "right of way"!

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 5:49 PM
  • *

    As I said, no one that I'm aware of has ever said that "you need our help" -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 12:27 PM

    Took all of 2 minutes to find this from the Democrat Party Platform:

    "We will ensure that family caregivers have the support, respite care, and training THEY NEED to support their loved ones."

    "Democrats believe that WE NEED to give Americans affordable banking options"

    "We will keep the housing market robust and inclusive by supporting more first-time homebuyers and putting more Americans into the financial position to become sustainable homeowners; preserving the 30-year fixed rate mortgage; modernizing credit scoring; clarifying lending rules; expanding access to housing counseling; defending and strengthening the Fair Housing Act; and ensuring that regulators have the clear direction, resources, and authority to enforce those rules effectively. These steps are especially important because over the next decade most new households will be formed by families in communities of color, which typically have less generational wealth and fewer resources to put towards a down payment."

    Ugh. A huge, endless list of "you need our help".

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 6:23 PM
  • “[You] were the one that used "top secret" not me. Perhaps you could explain what is meant by Equality you and your party support.”

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 3:29 PM

    Equality of opportunity has already been explained, but the credit for divulging the “Top Secret” stuff goes to Mr. Schaefer, on a previous thread, as in...

    “Do you actually think that the DNC will post their Top Secret so those dependent voters of free stuff would see what the DNC is up to.”

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 13, 2017, at 7:51 AM

    Perhaps he can explain who leaked the “Top Secrets” and waht they were. Maybe he knows what person authored the famous "you need our help" assertion."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 6:24 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:01 PM
  • Men wearing helmets defending the country should get paid more then men wearing helmets defending footballs .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:21 PM
  • *

    Maybe he knows what person authored the famous "you need our help" assertion." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 6:24 PM

    Looks like the DNC did that little man.

    Now get back to your kneeling Packers. You love those that disrespect the uniform don't you?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:24 PM
  • Equality has been explained? No you made up a bunch of stuff to say it was about opportunity and then started to imply government should help those that are not equal. "The conservative claim that "we are all equal" is a nice thought but delusional."

    What conservative claim is that? where is that written?

    So you are saying we are not all equal?

    Just dang the liberals are confused!

    I think the constant stirring your party does in the name of equality is meant to convince their voters they are inferior and need to vote for the wealthy democrats that have for 30+ years been telling them they can't succeed without their help.

    I also think you know it.

    Now come up with another deflection like who told you that silly stuff or bring up Limbaugh and some one else you think is telling people what to think.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 7:34 PM
  • Big bad men getting their feelings hurt with the words 'son of a *****'..what do they call each other with their trash talk during the game...

    How many People even watch the NFL anyway , the entire Nation ? How many People gives a tinker's damnn about Trump or what he says/tweets ? Ain't it all a show anyway ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 8:20 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 6:24 PM

    Common: It wouldn't be top secret if the Democratic leaders told everyone, that's why it's top secret just for them only to plan and activate. But we wise ole Conservatives know of their plans to put back in chains (per Biden) their voter base of dependent freeloaders.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Sep 25, 2017, at 8:22 PM
  • “…to say it was about opportunity…”

    That’s correct, equal opportunity is the goal, not “equal results.” While it may not mean much to you, equal treatment under the law is also an obligation of government.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “..and then started to imply government should help those that are not equal.”

    Nothing was implied, and "should help" was not stated. What was said is that since all individuals are not equal (in potential, in desire, in intelligence, in motivation, etc.) there are programs, such as affirmative action, that exist and are available to help people that want help, to reach a level of equal opportunity. Nothing was said about anyone must having help to succeed, they can do it on their own.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "The conservative claim that "we are all equal" is a nice thought but delusional."

    “What conservative claim is that? Where is that written?”

    How about here…

    “Conservatives believe we are all equal and no one needs to be told they are victims and dependent on a political party to have equal opportunity.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Sep 24, 2017, at 10:41 PM”

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…they are victims and dependent on a political party to have equal opportunity.”

    Where is that written? I don’t believe it’s not true at all.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “So you are saying we are not all equal?”

    That’s correct when you are referring to education, social status, personal preferences, character, personality, etc., etc.

    Believe it or not, there really are some intelligent conservatives, just like there are dumb liberals.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "I think the constant stirring your party does in the name of equality is meant to convince their voters they are inferior..."

    I don't know of anyone that says or thinks that, other than you of course. And your opinion is always welcome, but you still can't pass them off as facts.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…the wealthy democrats that have for 30+ years been telling them they can't succeed without their help.”

    Back to the original question, exactly who is it that says that.

    The only group that I’ve heard say that “Americans can’t succeed without government help” are republican/conservatives.

    Why would they say that since it’s not true?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:17 AM
  • Believe it or not, there really are some intelligent conservatives, just like there are some dumb liberals.

    Corrected version.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM
  • That’s correct, equal opportunity is the goal, not “equal results.” While it may not mean much to you, equal treatment under the law is also an obligation of government.

    .....................

    This would not be true .

    There are Reservation set aside for the original Peoples of the Great Lands who were no where near treated equal as anyone else , hence the Reservations .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:32 AM
  • Hey Trump , regarding terrorist immigrants , what do you call People who sweep across the Lands killing , raping , burning , helping their self to whatever they want , all in the name of changing a culture to their own?

    Allies ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:38 AM
  • Thnx Barack Obama for sticking the price of insurance in the back pocket of the American worker . May I have another !

    **********************

    Susan Collins Says No To Obamacare Repeal Bill, Crippling Its Chances

    By Jonathan Cohn

    Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) announced Monday that she would vote against a new bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, leaving "Republicans" at least one vote short of what it would take to pass it ¯ and dealing what looks like a lethal blow to this latest effort at Obamacare repeal.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/susan-collins-obamacare-repeal_us_59c97f72e4...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:47 AM
  • *

    Believe it or not, there really are some intelligent conservatives, just like there are some dumb liberals. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM

    And what would a liberal be who compares an insult to a politician as equal in kind to an insult to Jesus Christ?

    Dumb.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • Either way , the PPACA or it's Repeal and Replace , it's still a Federal Mandated Law , a person is forced to purchase a commerce against their will .

    This is not freedom . This is oppression by the USA Government on it's People by both political Parties .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • Believe it or not, there really are some intelligent conservatives, just like there are some dumb liberals. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM

    I agree . There are also some intelligent liberals and dumb conservatives too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:55 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 8:02 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:17 AM

    Leftist Socialism is the fix all answer Ulrich. It will cure all problems.

    NOT!!

    What it will do is make us all equally miserable in the end.... except the few elites.

    We will be another Socialistic success story/flop, just like Venezuela, unless the government gets the hell out of the way and lets the United States. prosper.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 8:26 AM
  • *

    Let's just pass the Graham-Cassidy Health Care Bill so we can find out what's in it....worked for the Democrats.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 8:43 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 8:43 AM

    Semo471,

    Repeal Obamacare period.

    Then pass one page of rules that Insurance Companies must follow to treat people fairly and let the Insurers compete across state lines.

    Next get out of the way and let the free market compete for business.

    We do not need a national healthcare law that emulates the quagmire Obamacare is.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • Lettau, Your long word salad takes on an uncanny resemblance in style of the superior one. You copy and paste, recopy and paste until it fits the reply you want to make, all while leading away from the questions you cant answer.

    Bottom line is that you support the people that support the progressive ideas that lead to abandonment of our Constitutional Democratic Republic.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • What questions were not answered?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 10:16 AM
  • *

    Bottom line is that you support the people that support the progressive ideas that lead to abandonment of our Constitutional Democratic Republic. -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 9:12 AM

    Pretty much sums up about 100% of Lettau's posts.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 10:27 AM
  • I'm an Independent and only a couple understand me , the rest assume I'm either angry , sarcastic , or just an *** hole..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 12:02 PM
  • Those who are pro-PPACA and 100% all for it can pay for mine .

    It doesn't matter if it's $5 , $50 , or $500 , it's your big idea , you can pay it .

    Better yet , fill out another W-4 and have more Federal Taxes deducted from your income . 10% , 20% , hell , 100% if it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling .

    Stop oppressing me...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM

    Rick: You are sounding like one of those dependent freeloaders looking for someone to pay for their insurance.😎

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 6:47 PM
  • I'll buy the one I like for me and mine .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 6:54 PM
  • ..if there's any I like..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 6:58 PM
  • He already has the IHS, or could have.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:02 PM
  • I'll give my money to my personal choices like children's hospitals , Veterans and elderly care .

    I don't want to be forced to pay for others who've baked their lungs with cigarettes , pickled their livers with booze , poisoned their bodies and spirits with drugs , or destroyed life with abortions . These are other's personal choices , let them pay for theirs , it's not right for everybody to pay for it .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:28 PM
  • He already has the IHS, or could have.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:02 PM

    Bend over and I'll show you where to shove your hand out IHS .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:29 PM
  • I'm not kissing the USA Government's *** for IHS or anything else .

    Haven't they done enough damage as it is with their "gifts" ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM
  • Democrats in the senate ended the day blaming Trump for Obamacare continuing by calling for tax cuts for the rich. Imagine that.

    Coming to a network near you this fall: Republicans pushing Granny over a cliff, government wheel chair and all.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:48 PM
  • What does IHS have to do with anything Rick S said?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:58 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:48 PM

    OJ: The Dependent Freeloaders Democratic Party will try to blame Trump when Obamacare dies next year.

    *******

    Believe we have 3 Republican Senators that need to be replaced the next time they are up for election by true Conservative Republican Senators.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 9:37 PM
  • *

    He already has the IHS, or could have.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 7:02 PM

    Common: As an ole Lakota Chief once said - May you trip and fall face first into a Buffalo paddy.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Sep 26, 2017, at 9:51 PM
  • "..Your long word salad..."

    Very "VanGennipesque," Mr. Bess. I would not have anticipated your having similar difficulties comprehending written English. In any case, I'm happy to keep discussions a a grade school level.

    Per your post...

    "...leading away from the questions you [can't] answer."

    I do not recall you posing any questions that have not been answered. Hopefully you're able to repeat them, and they'll be answered.

    "...support the progressive ideas that lead to abandonment of our Constitutional Democratic Republic."

    Ideas such as what? Are you referring to equal and fair treatment under the law, honest wages, or what?

    What is it that's unconstitutional and/or undemocratic?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 6:59 AM
  • *

    Well Richard, you have just been downgraded to my level by the esteemed (for lack of words that might get me busted) Mr. Lettau.

    Next comes the feeling you get when being judged by someone dumber than we are. 😂😂😂😂😂

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:15 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:18 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 6:59 AM

    Ulrich,

    I have heard that the first signs of a mental breakdown is to start taking one's self too seriously.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:24 AM
  • Something you appear to be overly knowledgeable of, through personal experience, no doubt. You have my sympathy.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:28 AM
  • Top Ten accomplishments of Donald Trump :

    1.

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:32 AM
  • Ideas such as what? Are you referring to equal and fair treatment under the law, honest wages, or what?

    What is it that's unconstitutional and/or undemocratic?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 6:59 AM

    This would not be true .

    There are Reservation set aside for the original Peoples of the Great Lands who were no where near treated equal as anyone else , hence the Reservations .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 7:40 AM
  • *

    The only good Reservation is the one at your favorite restaurant.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 9:52 AM
  • Why not just fight to pass Legislation ?

    ************

    Take the Knee Spreads to Congress:

    http://www.newsweek.com/take-knee-trump-nfl-congress-671055

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 9:53 AM
  • I wonder if she thinks our astronauts took a knee before they walked on Mars.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM
  • Mr Lettau, You know, the harder you try to sound liberal and open-minded, the less you actually sound...liberal and open-minded. Too bad you've lost your way.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 11:31 AM
  • Mr. Braswell,

    Sorry, I haven't lost a thing, least of all "my way."

    What is it that you fail to understand?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 11:49 AM
  • *

    Sorry, I haven't lost a thing, least of all "my way." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 11:49 AM

    You've seriously lost your way.

    What military person has anyone ever met or talked to that defends and worships a president daily (Obama) who allowed a traitor and spy to get gender reassignment surgery and then pardoned him/her?

    You're alone in that category Lettau. Lost your way...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 12:16 PM
  • *

    The result of 7 years of LettauCare?

    "Health insurance website eHealth estimate premiums have risen 99 percent between 2013 and the first months of 2017 for people who don’t get the government subsidies."

    Who would wish this on anyone?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 2:44 PM
  • What's up with HHS Secretary Tom Price jet setting around the USA in private jets wasting taxes . Hey Trump , where's the swamp ?

    This is Obama:101

    ...............

    New details cast doubt on why Tom Price needed a private jet

    Missed trip to Ritz-Carlton led to charter use.

    By DAN DIAMOND 09/22/2017 06:14 PM EDT

    HHS Secretary Tom Price has been taking private jets because an unreliable commercial flight once forced him to cancel an important meeting, a Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson says, part of his agenda to meet with average Americans outside of Washington.

    “This is Secretary Price, getting outside of D.C., making sure he is connected with the real American people,” Charmaine Yoest, HHS spokeswoman, told The Washington Post. “Wasting four hours in an airport and having the secretary cancel his event is not a good use of taxpayer money.”

    Yoest did not respond to POLITICO’s questions about why Price chose to make a two-day trip to a California industry conference and what the value was for taxpayers. She also declined to confirm that the scrapped April trip was the impetus for Price's subsequent travel.

    POLITICO has identified at least 24 subsequent charter jet flights, costing more than $300,000, taken by Price at taxpayer expense in the past four months.

    Price’s staff explored the use of a charter jet to get the secretary to the California event, but given the severe weather, private jets would have encountered similar delays or cancellations, two individuals with knowledge of the secretary’s travels said.

    “There was no pressing business on the other end,” said one attendee with knowledge of Price’s schedule. “I was there and was shocked he was planning to come.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/22/tom-price-charter-jet-flights-243040

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 5:48 PM
  • Hey Trump , where's the swamp ? Put down that damned cell phone , stop the tweets , and be an Executive . America doesn't need more Obama...

    ..............

    3 Cabinet officials under fire for taking costly flights

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cabinet-officials-under-fire-costly-flights/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 6:02 PM
  • Jared Kushner is Registered to vote as a female in records held by the New York State Board of Elections .

    ..................

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/09/27/jared.kushner.voter.reg.png

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 6:39 PM
  • Must be true, it was on the interweb.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 8:25 PM
  • *

    I didn't write this, but I find it to be extremely accurate!

    When my president lied to me and claimed 4 of my comrades were murdered because of a video insulting Muslims...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president shipped pallets of cash to my sworn enemy...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president failed to identify Muslims as terrorists and Islam as an enemy of the state...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president claimed that a man who tried to kill another man who lawfully defended himself could be his son...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president defended a thug who bum rushed law enforcement...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president ordered businesses to spend unnecessary funds to appease a minority of people who need mental intervention far more than they need their own toilet...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president ordered that words 'one nation under God' be removed from the pledge of allegiance...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president lied to me and said I could keep my doctors and my premiums would go down...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president spent my tax dollars in foreign lands to interfere in their elections...I didn't take a knee.

    While my president sat by passively and enabled ISIS to emerge as a stronger force dedicated to spreading Islamic ideals by committing murder, rape and torture...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president allowed dictators and murderers to violate his red lines and continue to murder women and children with chemical gas...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president chastised law enforcement for their actions but ignored the violence in our streets...I didn't take a knee.

    When my president identified the weather as the greatest threat to America's safety while Muslims worldwide are murdering innocent people...I didn't take a knee.

    While my president's insistence that pacifism and reform in numerous areas of the globe would bring peace but instead led to the strengthening of those that seek to destroy us...I didn't take a knee.

    When the election of my president broke barriers never thought possible in America ended up being the high point of his eight years in office...I didn't take a knee.

    In all that time I never disrespected our Country, our Armed Forces and Veterans, or our Nation. I remained vigilant. And I got a new president.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • Right, Mr. Schaefer, I'd deny writing it too, because it's totally inaccurate.

    Here's a good example, when did "under God" come out of the pledge?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:30 PM
  • *

    Here's a good example, when did "under God" come out of the pledge?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:30 PM

    Common: You caught me - I added that one to the list to see if anyone would catch it. However; the rest are true.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:51 PM
  • *

    Common: Pres. Obama would probably like to change the word God to Allah to conform with his Muslim religion.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:54 PM
  • Someone left out the part about the sweetest sound and the mission of NASA.

    Proves me right when I said all you have to do to hear from Lettau is say something against Obama.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 11:43 PM
  • I forget , when , where , and during whose Administration did this whole "blacklivesmatter" social injustice movement begin ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 2:32 AM
  • Decades of woman beating , rapes , illegal drug use , gambling , and all of a sudden the NFL cares about social justice .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:02 AM
  • "...say something against Obama."

    If someone posts lies (as in the Pledge of Allegiance change) why would I not say something?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • Moore's win conjures 2018 nightmare — for both parties

    Republicans might pad their majority — but with troublemakers who owe Mitch McConnell nothing.

    By ELIANA JOHNSON 09/28/2017 05:01 AM EDT

    Roy Moore’s win in Alabama’s Senate primary has raised the specter of a nightmare scenario for Democrats and Republicans: The GOP picks up a handful of seats next year, padding its Senate majority, but with candidates like Moore, who buck party leadership as often as they fall in line.

    The Alabama race is the latest contest forcing both parties to take seriously candidates they once might have dismissed as unelectable. Early in 2016, several prominent Democrats exulted in Donald Trump’s meteoric rise, urging fellow liberals to support his nomination on the grounds that it would virtually guarantee a Republican defeat. Then he won the election.

    Rank-and-file Republicans, who spent more than $13 million to stop Moore, were startled by Tuesday’s results. They said they understood how candidates across the country could tap into the same anti-establishment fervor that helped Moore — who was twice removed from the state Supreme Court, once for refusing to remove a monument of the Ten Commandments — overpower Strange.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/28/roy-moore-republicans-democrats-2018-ni...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:40 AM
  • It would seem when this whole "blacklivesmatter" social injustice started Barack Obama would have stepped up to the plate and said they have already mattered , there is now been a black President elected twice . There are now black doctors , lawyers , CEOs , astronauts , and every profession in the USA , blacks have can now vote and are no longer segregated from any schools . The days of Cotton Plantations are things of the distant past . No one owns slaves and no one is a slave , hasn't been for over a Century .

    But no . He allowed the "blacklivesmatter" social injustice to fester and boil , the new political correct terms "white privilege" and "blacklivesmatter" have become the new National trendy out cry .

    As I've posted over and over , it will take years for America to recover from the damage Barack Obama has done to this Nation .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 8:12 AM
  • Hey , there's still Reservations though , it's all good...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    If someone posts lies (as in the Pledge of Allegiance change) why would I not say something?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:37 AM

    Common: Did you not read my Wed, Sep 27, 2017, at 10:51 PM post.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 8:26 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:37 AM

    Ulrich,

    You said Semo471's post was totally inaccurate. That was a lie, it certainly is not totally inaccurate.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:45 AM
  • "Did you not read..."

    Sure I did, you said you made it up. That's called lying.

    Just like the "non-kneeling" guy took things out of context and added slanted interpretations to suit his agenda. That's what makes it inaccurate.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:54 AM
  • "slanted interpretations"

    I see humor in that coming from lettua

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:06 AM
  • How so? Exactly what are you referring to?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:09 AM
  • *

    "Did you not read..."

    Sure I did, you said you made it up. That's called lying.

    Just like the "non-kneeling" guy took things out of context and added slanted interpretations to suit his agenda. That's what makes it inaccurate.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:54 AM

    Common: Everything is 100% accurate as stated above except my add on....however if Obama could have done it and gotten away with it he would. Poor Common the truth just hurts him about his ex-God President.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 1:21 PM
  • "Everything is 100% accurate as stated above..."

    Wrong!

    For example...

    "...claimed 4 of my comrades were murdered because of a video insulting Muslims..."

    No one ever "claimed" anything like that. The fact is that there were demonstrations at over 50 locations world wide including one at the US Embassy in Cairo. There was a demonstration at the US Information Center in Benghazi during which the facility was set on fire and the Ambassador suffered smoke inhalation and his assistant died in the building. The Ambassador was taken to a hospital where he also died.

    The two former Seals were killed by a mortar at the CIA Annex hours later by actual terrorists.

    In any case, facts are difficult to accept if you've already made up your mind to believe the "non-kneeling" guy, and the truth of the matter has little relation with how he described it.

    Or this example...

    "While my president sat by passively and enabled ISIS to emerge as a stronger force..."

    In fact from a high in 2014 ISIS has lost men and territory consistently.

    One analysis...

    "I think what we need to understand is that the strategic fundamental goal of ISIS is to preserve its Islamic State in the al-Raqqa, Syria. And the fact is it's losing. I would say that ISIS has lost more than 40 percent of its Islamic State in Iraq, about 30 percent of its Islamic State in Syria, more than 20,000 fighters."

    http://www.npr.org/2016/07/04/484647115/examining-the-strength-and-strategy-of-i...

    ISIS losing between 20,000 to 40,000 men is not a definition of "sitting passively by."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 2:54 PM
  • There he goes again. He actually believes the Hillary and Obama BS. That's even more than a slanted interpretation.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 4:35 PM
  • Show where you came up with that piece of Limbaughism Mr. Bess, or you doing the SO conservative thing of making things up again.

    [Thought I would reply for you common] You can thank me later

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 4:39 PM
  • Mr. Bess,at least that keeps him out of a pair of rubber boots behind his goat....

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 5:40 PM
  • RIP Hugh Hefner. I always enjoyed the articles.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM
  • WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price promised on Thursday to repay the nearly $52,000 cost of his seats on private charter flights, as expensive air travel by Trump administration officials drew sharp scrutiny from Congress.

    “Today, I will write a personal check to the U.S. Treasury for the expenses of my travel on private charter planes,” said Price, a former member of Congress, in a statement. “The taxpayers won’t pay a dime for my seat on those planes.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-expenses/trump-health-secretary-to-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM
  • ISIS losing between 20,000 to 40,000 men is not a definition of "sitting passively by."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 2:54 PM

    Where are the grave sites . Show me the pics of the 20,000 to 40,000 grave sites .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:15 PM
  • Gassing those women and kids gets a pass though , right ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:16 PM
  • The truth of ISIS is Putin came into the Middle East and took care of the problem . Obama had squat to do with it other then back away from Putin .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:31 PM
  • *

    Common, Obama was the Crawdad-In-Chief. He didn't want to fight those of his religion.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 7:46 PM
  • -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:12 PM
  • Some of us just aren't Obama 24/7 as hard as it is to believe . Actually , yesterday , Michelle Obama scolded the American women for using their Free Speech , she's getting some backlash but nothing like the trendy out roar with the NFL . It's the same old Obama hypocrisy all over again except without the consequences ...

    *******************

    Aris Folley, AOL.com

    Sep 28th 2017 11:53AM

    Michelle Obama faces backlash after saying female Trump voters went 'against their own voice'

    And given the fact that Obama's explanation refers to a sizable chunk of the female population in the U.S. -- roughly 42 percent -- she would probably be right to expect some backlash.

    "She said if you're a female and voted for Trump you lost your voice. Every female Trump voter should be appalled at that. Unreal," one user tweeted, while another wrote: "I will never EVER regret NOT voting for Hillary Clinton! I am an independent voter, and I wouldn't vote for her if a gun were to my head."

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/28/michelle-obama-faces-backlash-after-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:23 PM
  • RIP Hugh Hefner. I always enjoyed the articles.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 5:46 PM

    RIP Hugh Hefner. I never was much on reading , seeing is believing though :) ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • Rick S, Does that mean Mrs Trump had some kind of voice she ignored? The former First Lady who made such a fashion statement and set the standard surpassing John Kerry in self indulgence of wealthy extravagance should do America a favor and disappear. maybe she could join Hillary in a Russian vacation.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 10:09 PM
  • This Lady makes some valid points...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhPNjh0cX6o

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • "The truth of ISIS is Putin came into the Middle East and took care of the problem. Obama had squat to do with it other then back away from Putin."

    That truth is yours alone.

    The actual truth is that Putin came to Syria to protect Assad, and the bulk of his effort was against Syrian rebels, not ISIS. He did protect the chemical weapons that Assad had hidden.

    Putin did nothing against ISIS in Iraq.

    The US and allies killed about 25,000 ISIS militants in 2016, while Putin did nothing.

    On the 28th and 29th June, 2016 alone, 250 were killed per the news release below. And it’s from Fox News so you’ll be sure it’s true.

    “Iraqi aircraft joined the U.S.-led coalition in airstrikes targeting Islamic State convoys, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad told Fox News Thursday, after a U.S. official said at least 250 militants were killed.

    “The strikes unfolded Tuesday night into Wednesday, Col. Christopher Garver said.

    “The first convoy was spotted southwest of Fallujah in an area with known ISIS influence, according to Garver. Iraqi Security Forces fought the militants on the ground, he said, before coalition strikes destroyed some 55 vehicles.

    “The official said a second convoy formed east of Ramadi later Wednesday before coalition and Iraqi jets launched more strikes. He said that air assault destroyed nearly 120 ISIS vehicles, but in both attacks, Iraqi Security Forces destroyed more.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/30/us-airstrikes-kill-at-least-250-isis-fig...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:00 AM
  • "I forget, when, where, and during whose Administration did this whole "blacklivesmatter" social injustice movement begin?"

    The "social injustice" movement began a few hundred thousand years ago in north east Africa. Basically, social injustice has been here all along.

    The so-called "blacklivesmatter" movement began just a few years ago. Guess you'd have to say before that "black lives didn't matter."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:00 AM

    Common: What about the previous years of killing ISIS....not much until Obama countered Trump's comments on the Crawdad-In-Chief military failures and then trying to get Hillary elected....and we all know how that ended.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:22 AM
  • *

    The "social injustice" movement began a few hundred thousand years ago in north east Africa. Basically, social injustice has been here all along.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:13 AM

    Common: A few hundred thousand years ago - are sure about that Sage.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:28 AM
  • Look it up. You'll find numbers ranging from 60,001 to 200,001.

    The "one" added is OSB killed on May 2nd 2011.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:33 AM
  • few hundred thousand years ago? So now you are saying a few hundred thousand lives years ago?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:39 AM
  • "The US and allies killed about 25,000 ISIS militants in 2016, while Putin did nothing."

    Again , where are the grave sites ? Of course Putin joined Syria , along with Iran , you know , the Nation Obama played buddy-buddy with and gave all of that cash to right before Iran joined Russia ? That's common knowledge just as Putin pushing Obama out of the way in the Middle East and took care of the ISIS problem . I believe Putin took ISIS more seriously then a "JV team that couldn't beat Kobe Bryant." .

    ................

    "The so-called "blacklivesmatter" movement began just a few years ago. Guess you'd have to say before that "black lives didn't matter."

    Who said black lives didn't matter ? As long as there are 100's of black abortions daily , I won't take this new trend of self pity "blacklivesmatter" seriously .

    Again , why didn't Obama speak up to quell the current politically correct movement social unrest ? Why kick the can down the road .

    ...............

    Regarding Bin Laden , the damned thing , anything can be found on the net , ISIS chopping off heads , child porn , sex trafficking , graphic surgeries , anything possible but nowhere , nothing , not one single photo or video can be found of Bin Laden's dead body or his killing . I find that odd , very odd ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:53 AM
  • Killing Bin Laden sure put an end and slowed down al-Qaida , didn't it ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:04 AM
  • "I find that odd , very odd ..."

    Perhaps you looked in the wrong places…

    And this is why I take so little on SO seriously, or ignore it entirely.

    https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=C214US662D20151111&p=bin+laden+bo...

    “The dilemma of what to do with Osama bin Laden's body appears to have been quickly resolved if reports that he has been buried at sea prove correct.

    “Burying him on land could have led to his grave becoming a centre of contention as well as raising questions about where he should be buried.

    "Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult," a US official said, adding: "So the US decided to bury him at sea."

    “Fears about Bin Laden's burial place turning into a shrine for Islamists were probably unfounded, since the Wahhabi/Salafi tradition rejects such things. Even Saudi kings are buried in unmarked graves.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/02/bin-laden-body-buried-sea

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:26 AM
  • NFL arrest site

    http://nflarrest.com/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:27 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:26 AM

    Neither clip or site shows an actual pic of the dead body or the killing . One is a history and the other of where his body was suppose to have went and why .

    No pic of the corpse and no video of how it became a corpse .

    "And this is why I take so little on SO seriously, or ignore it entirely." Perhaps you should take some things a little more seriously ...Obama ain't all that plus a free bag of chips too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:40 AM
  • Again , why didn't Obama speak up to quell the current "blacklivesmatter" politically correct movement social unrest ? Why kick the can down the road .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:42 AM
  • "No pic of the corpse"

    Your ability to lock out what you don't want to or can't believe or won't understand is amazing.

    Perhaps the Seal team was too busy shooting him to take a video.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:44 AM
  • Seal Teams wear helmet cams . The President and his cabinet watched in "real time" , remember the great photo-op of them watching while it happened ?

    Perhaps I'm not the only person who lacks abilities that's amazing .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:49 AM
  • ...Obama ain't all that plus a free bag of chips too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:50 AM
  • *

    Common: Obama didn't do anything to quell BLM movement because he supported it and wanted them to get the blacks to vote 100% for Hillary....almost worked.

    *******

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:49 AM

    Rick: Good point!

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:54 AM
  • Budweiser has pulled all of it's commercials off the NFL , it's using it's Freedom of Speech I guess . Ticket sales are down 17% for this weekend , a push is on to boycott Nov.12 games , it's Veteran's Day weekend . The owners are having sudden meetings now . Protests on both sides grow across the Nation .

    This is what a Nation divided looks like . This all started with "blacklivesmatters" . The only conclusion as to who allowed this Nation to be divided is obvious .

    Fundamental Change my ***.....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 6:09 PM
  • Tom Price resigns as health secretary over private flights and Trump criticism

    The health and human services secretary Tom Price has resigned, after revelations that he spent more than $1m of taxpayers’ money on travel including chartered flights.

    Reports about such travel by Price and other cabinet members – including EPA administrator Scott Pruitt, interior secretary Ryan Zinke and veterans affairs director David Shulkin – had undermined Donald Trump’s promise to “drain the swamp” of corruption in Washington.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/tom-price-resigns-health-secreta...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 6:14 PM
  • Seems to be a Washington D.C. disease. Not that long ago Pelosi was using military planes as private jets to go home on weekends. And of course Obama had no respect for costs sending his family on separate planes with full Secret Service expense to his vacation spots. Draining the swamp takes a while when you start the ditch work in the middle.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 6:55 PM
  • The only difference between a Democrat and a Republican is the spelling .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:00 PM
  • thnx Obama . May I have another !

    ..............................

    US slashes Cuba embassy staff, warns Americans not to visit after 'attacks'

    Posted on September 29, 2017 at 10:53 AM

    WASHINGTON -- The United States on Friday abruptly warned Americans not to visit Cuba and ordered more than half its Havana embassy personnel to leave the island in a dramatic response to mysterious recent "specific attacks" harming the health of U.S. diplomats.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/09/us_slashes_cuba_embassy_staff....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:46 PM
  • - Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 8:00 PM

    Rick, We know if that's right later. Urich is most likely watching Hannity interviewing Limbaugh.

    As far as career politicians that have been there ever, your probably right.

    IMO, Trump needs to drain the State and several other big departments. They are still full of Obama-Hillary people working against him.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Sep 29, 2017, at 9:30 PM
  • *

    http://eheadlines.com/psycho-lib-steals-students-maga-hat-man-fck-your-laws-f-yo...

    Isn't it wonderful what our younger generation are learning when sent off to a University these days.

    Want to make a wager on who paid for the mouthy female's education to this point?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:48 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:48 AM

    I'm sure Lettau is proud. This is what he voted for.

    I hope racist pigs like this stupid lady keep up their attacks. Just like Lettau's illogical, leftist progressive comments have done in the past 8 years. A complete rejection of his ideology. Worst election losses in US history.

    Please keep posting Lettau! Love to see the true colors of the anti-American crowd. Like your friend in the video Ralph posted.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 9:11 AM
  • How about if one of those NFL players call 911 the LEOs kneel after they arrive for social justice too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 7:23 PM
  • Forget the NFL ..watch some good football

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxK-AguBHAQ

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 7:27 PM
  • I guess the student whose hat was stolen wanted to make a point by videoing that ignorant fool,which he did,but I'd probably got the hat back and slapped the ahole with it till my arm gave out,took a break and started on her again. Couldn't cause any more brain damage.

    Rick,check out Australian Rules Football. That's a man's game.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:17 PM
  • "Please keep posting..."

    Happy to.

    Over the past several years our SO conservative (and non-conservative) friends have continually and consistently demonstrated unique skills and talents by making and posting contributions that clearly demonstrate that they, as a group, but with some more complicit than others, are disclosing that they know and understand less and less, about more and more, until soon they will know and understand nothing about everything.

    But that's their business, and I should apologize for blowing the whistle on them.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:31 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:31 PM

    What a Pompous Blowhard you have become Ulrich!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 9:12 PM
  • So when someone points out that the leftist progressive policies of the statist have always resulted in tyranny, the standard response is go back into that "SO conservatives stupid" mode of response. The "SO posse" was more original.

    Now someone tell me why I have to pay Charter/Spectrum for crap channels I have no intention of watching.

    It's kind of like senior citizens paying premiums for birth control and sex change operations.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM
  • Couple of good "less and less" examples there.

    The "pompous" accusation by the most pompous Mr. VanGennip was an especially telling touch.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 10:00 PM
  • *

    But that's their business, and I should apologize for blowing the whistle on them. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:31 PM

    NO NO NO! Don't apologize. The only people you need to apologize to are your democrat friends who have raised that pig in the video who stole another's hat. You own that!

    And you own the record losses of your party. Absolute butt kicking thanks to people like you.

    Keep it up!!!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 10:11 PM
  • It be more appropriate to apologize for the education that goofy gal who said she was born here got with more and more tax money thrown at more tax money that failed.

    Anyone remember school children singing praises to Obama.

    Lettau must have been taking those classes on line.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 10:57 PM
  • *

    Poor ole Dependent Liberal Democrats don't have a clue on reality....nothing but empty space between the ears.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 10:50 AM
  • Another competitor in "less and less" race heard from.

    Mr. Schaefer will need to put forth an all out effort if he is serious about challenging the frontrunners.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 10:59 AM

    Ulrich,

    If your efforts to denigrate those above you weren't so childish and pathetic.... you would almost be cute.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 12:36 PM
  • Those "above" you...

    Now that's a cute fantasy.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 2:07 PM
  • *

    Well Ulrich, usually when you find someone trying so desperately to feature themselves as Superior, they are just the opposite and their self loathing and inadequacies tend to shine through as they do in your case.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 2:17 PM
  • *

    Wonder if Ulrich subscribes to this Leftist strategy for destroying America.

    www.restoreamericanglory.com/breaking-news/professor-says-we-shouldnt-teach-stud...

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 5:23 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 5:23 PM

    Wheels: Better watch out I'm moving up on you per Common.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 10:51 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 10:51 PM

    Semo471,

    Ulrich doesn't seem to love us any more.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 11:04 PM
  • Over the past several years our SO conservative (and non-conservative) friends have continually and consistently demonstrated unique skills and talents by making and posting contributions that clearly demonstrate that they, as a group, but with some more complicit than others, are disclosing that they know and understand less and less, about more and more, until soon they will know and understand nothing about everything.

    But that's their business, and I should apologize for blowing the whistle on them.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:31 PM

    Is this your way of saying that you , and only you , know the truth of everything ? If so , you would be sadly mistaken due to one simple example , I have a gut feeling you voted Obama twice .

    Also , your contention of "SO conservative (and non-conservative)" would be including yourself due to the fact you are "non-conservative" .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 6:20 AM
  • All of these news outlets down in Puerto Rico , all of the mass media , reporters and their teams everywhere , on the TV showing how bad and dire the situation is , no water , no food , no electric or communications .

    How are they sending out their reports if there's no electric or communication signals ? Where are they staying if all of the housing is gone , what are they drinking and eating ? Why don't the make-up enchanced reporters and their reporting teams share their water and food , put down their reporting gear , and help those hurricane victims ?

    What a crock of it....

    ..........

    Also , the NFL , suddenly Free Speech is Free again , it's taken over Politically Correct . How does this work ? Do the Politically Correct get to decide when Free Speech is allowed , does the Politically Correct get to turn Free Speech on and off whenever it wants ?

    Personally , I'm gonna use my Free Speech no matter what , the Politically Correct be damned . I've been banned from this rag of a website for using Free Speech-- thnx Sneller! -- but here I am , I came right on back just to prove a point , those Politically Correct will not control my Free Speech . I'm not saying I agree with the NFL , I'm saying it's total hypocrisy .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 6:37 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:04 AM
  • "Is this your way of saying that you, and only you, know the truth of everything?"

    Have never said anything of the sort. I have no compunctions about stating my own opinions, but sadly, when they don't follow the SO party line, some people get upset, and make silly claims such as...

    "...usually when you find someone trying so desperately to feature themselves as Superior, they are just the opposite and their self loathing and inadequacies tend to shine through as they do in your case."

    It's particularly absurd coming from Mr. VanGennip who loftily considers himself as being "above" everyone else.

    As alluded to earlier, so many SO conservative contributions are making "less and less" sense, primarily because they have nothing to do with issues, and are simply personal affronts.

    For example, a current issue is tax reform. Wonder what will happen when I point out that the republican plan will save President Trump, his family, his cabinet members and the other 1%, billions (if not trillions) of dollars. My position is that those billions would be better spent reducing the deficit and balancing the federal budget, rather than going deeper into debt.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:16 AM
  • Have never said anything of the sort. I have no compunctions about stating my own opinions, but sadly, when they don't follow the SO party line, some people get upset, and make silly claims such as...

    ....................

    Also , your contention of "SO conservative (and non-conservative)" would be including yourself due to the fact you are "non-conservative" .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:21 AM
  • For example, a current issue is tax reform. Wonder what will happen when I point out that the republican plan will save President Trump, his family, his cabinet members and the other 1%, billions (if not trillions) of dollars. My position is that those billions would be better spent reducing the deficit and balancing the federal budget, rather than going deeper into debt.

    ...........

    Tax cut should be for the "middle" only .

    No where is there a guarantee or promise a tax cut to the top will promote or create jobs , no where does it prevent the top from putting those billions saved in their personal bank accounts . Those tax cuts should go in the "middle" bank account , the "middle" struggle now as it is...

    Say "no" to Trump's tax cuts , it's shady and it's wrong . Those taxes could be used for a lot of better things -- infrastructure , FEMA , defense , the list is long ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:27 AM
  • ...and get rid of about 100 Corporate tax exemptions while they're at it too ...a whole lot of Corporate are over sea or out source investments that walk away with money

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:32 AM
  • *

    As alluded to earlier, so many SO conservative contributions are making "less and less" sense -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:16 AM

    Who cares about your opinion? Not many in Missouri. It's redder than ever. Your opinions have been rejected for the past 8 years. Lost control of the house, the senate, the presidency and republicans hold more control in the states than ever.

    Who cares what a leftist/socialist/marxist in Bollinger county thinks about "making sense"? You've made none in 10 years.

    According to voters in Missouri and the country.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • Who cares about your opinion? Not many in Missouri. It's redder than ever. Your opinions have been rejected for the past 8 years. Lost control of the house, the senate, the presidency and republicans hold more control in the states than ever.

    ...............

    I'll listen to anybody's opinion . I'm not into colors , really , red or blue , black or white or red , just listening to what folks have to say .

    Hell , a lot of my opinions are way out there for sure . Nobody is right all the time .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:57 AM
  • *

    Over the past several years our SO conservative (and non-conservative) friends have continually and consistently demonstrated unique skills and talents by making and posting contributions that clearly demonstrate that they, as a group, but with some more complicit than others, are disclosing that they know and understand less and less, about more and more, until soon they will know and understand nothing about everything.

    But that's their business, and I should apologize for blowing the whistle on them.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 8:31 PM

    Ulrich,

    You make a stupid statement like the one above and I call you on it. So you come back with.......

    "It's particularly absurd coming from Mr. VanGennip who loftily considers himself as being "above" everyone else."

    Ulrich, give just one example where I have indicated anything of the kind.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:58 AM
  • *

    Nobody is right all the time. -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:57 AM

    No they aren't. Just facts from the election for the past 8 years. Not my opinion.

    You may not like those facts but it is what it is.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:05 AM
  • You may not like those facts but it is what it is.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:05 AM

    Facts are one thing , opinions are another . I'm well aware of the elections , my opinion , there's no winner since 2008 .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:41 AM
  • China has been buying American companies and industries at a record pace , billion$ and billion$ of dollar$ worth , from food factories , to hotels , to Hollywood . Are they creating and saving jobs , maybe , maybe not . Is China paying American Corporate taxes ? No .

    If Trump gets his tax cuts the average American might as well bend over and grab their ankles 'cause that's what's gonna happen , rape , rob , and pillage . Trump keeps trash talking China and how it's manipulating currency , how it's ripping off the trade , but China keeps on buying up American industry without paying a dime in taxes . And now he wants to give the top a big tax cut too .

    China isn't doing a damnned thing to help with North Korea either , I have to wonder if Trump knows what he's doing or if he's taking Americans for their money on purpose .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:50 AM
  • *

    Who is paying America's bills?

    "An analysis of IRS data by the Tax Foundation shows that the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes collected by the federal government, the highest percentage in modern history. While the bottom 95 percent paid 39.4 percent of the income tax burden."

    https://www.atr.org/top-percent-pays-more-taxes-bottom-a3619

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:13 AM
  • "... just one example where I have indicated anything of the kind."

    "If your efforts to denigrate those above you weren't so childish and pathetic.... you would almost be cute.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 1, 2017, at 12:36 PM"

    That's why I mentioned...

    It's particularly absurd coming from Mr. VanGennip who loftily considers himself as being "above" everyone else.

    Just stay with your name-calling, it becomes you. Keep in mind that "Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:14 AM
  • *

    "... just one example where I have indicated anything of the kind."

    "If your efforts to denigrate those above you weren't so childish and pathetic.... you would almost be cute.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:14 AM

    "denigrate ***those*** above you"

    Ulrich,

    "those" would be plural in this instance would it not?

    Doesn't indicate me, it indicates all of those on here that you chose to denigrate in your dumb statement. And there is not one among them, that you referred to, that I do not hold in higher esteem than I do you with your bigoted party line chants you do on here.

    So much for Graham. I never called you a name, I merely described how you are acting. Your actions and chants are Pompous and advertise yourself as a superior being, which I somehow fail in recognizing you as such.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:39 AM
  • The top 1% own 35% of the wealth. Since the tax system is designed to be progressive they're grossly undertaxed .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:44 AM
  • China and/or any Foreign Nation who does business in America should be required to pay American taxes .

    America First should mean American taxes required from Foreign Nations First .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:47 AM
  • *

    They own 35% of the wealth snd they pay 40% of the taxes and they are under taxed?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:53 AM
  • If the top get a cut from 40% and everybody else pays the rest , who pays the cut from the 40% ? 99% taxes goes up so a 1% can pay less .

    Somehow that seems wrong to me , it should be 99 1/2 out of 1/2 that pays all the taxes ? Only 1/2 , who has 35% of the wealth , pays just doesn't sound right ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:02 AM
  • First thing is to get the Foreign Nations to pay their taxes and then worry about the Americans ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:05 AM
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    Rick

    If we take all of the taxes from the 1%, are they going to be able to still hire the 95%?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:14 AM
  • If the 1% taxes go down won't their wealth automatically go up while the 99% wealth automatically go down ?

    Aren't the 99% struggling now and if they have even more taxes taken out of their checks have it even worse -- look at the stupid PPACA , how bad did that hit the 99% alone .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:15 AM
  • Wheels

    I know the hiring concept but I really don't believe it will come true . Yeah , odds are a few will use it toward expansion or hiring but most will pocket more then they use . My experience from Corporate , Rubbermaid , the big deal was ROI . Plus , automation was the growing thing , robotics were replacing human workers . What 5 People could do , a robot could replace 4 of them , it left 4 People without a job permenantly and 1 person left to try and cover the other 4 entitlements .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:21 AM
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    Rick,

    Sticking the money in the bank is a poor investment compared to putting it back into the economy to make greater profits and hire more people.

    Don't think this tax plan is perfect, but what we have is a nightmare. As I understand it, middle America also gets a reduction.

    Truthfully, I doubt we really know who benefits what and the most. So much hype and anti Trump rhetoric going on. Better we not cut off our nose, just to spite our face with the Hate Trump campaign

    This needs to have a lot more light shed on it and it will. People have been ******** about tax reform for years now and we have to start somewhere.

    I am a believer in all America having some kind of share in supporting America. The EITC craziness has done nothing to further that.

    When we all become equals, we will all be equally as miserable. Socialism has proven that time and again, Venezuela being one of our more recent examples.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:41 AM
  • Wheels

    I agree with cutting the tax codes from 7 to 3 . I also believe there should be tax cuts but the tax cuts should come for the middle as a starting point .

    I'll go along with the tax codes being fuct , they have been for a long time and need to be fixed . You're dead on about investing in America , at some point it was happening , but , at some point Companies and Corporates fled America for Southeast Asia . They still get income without taxes because of the codes . Southeast Asia buys American companies and don't pay American taxes either because of the codes . All of this is leaving a burden on the middle because of the codes .

    I don't believe in Socialism at all -- that stupid PPACA screwed everybody -- but I do believe everybody should get a fair shot at making some money too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:55 AM
  • The Mom&Pop Business should get a cut before Corporate . Anybody who works for or supports them should get a cut .

    The Corporate honchos are the ones who are getting by like a fat rat . Wal-Mart came along and almost shut down Sears , JC Penny , Montgomary Ward , etc ...then Wal-Mart went rural and started shutting down Mom&Pop's . Now Amazon is coming along to try and shut down Wal-Mart .

    Progressives .

    Billionaire Progressives . Pay their taxes .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 11:15 AM
  • And clean up the Entitlement Codes , there's might be over 100 too many , People can get anything for nothing . There's no incentive to work when People are getting pay plus benefits sitting at home .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 12:26 PM
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    Rick

    I agree that there has to be room for the middle class. But I worry about the government sucking the wealth out of the country to the point there is nothing left to grow on.

    One of our biggest problems is our trade agreements, like NAFTA. We took a good trip to the cleaners there. From automobiles to air conditioners, they make them in Mexico.

    Also agree, clear the decks of a majority of entitlements. Things are looking up around here with a number of stores having help wanted signs in place. Not the greatest paying employment, but a start. If you are an able bodied individual, and you don't want a job when it's available, why should anybody feel sorry for your whining about being hungry when you will not work?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 1:36 PM
  • The left can always find a way to claim the rich need to be punished. If a proposed tax plan was to tax the top earners 99% the left would claim it was a tax cut for the wealthy. If you give middle class a 50% tax cut and the overpaid ball players and hedge fund managers a 1% cut, some one on the top would get a bigger $ amount reduction than a low income worker. Also people in DC think middle class income is 5 times what it is in flyover country.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 2:17 PM
  • "The left can always find a way to claim the rich need to be punished."

    Goes back to the same question. You claim that "the left" always feel "the rich" need to be punished. Again, who exactly says that?

    I don't believe that the rich need to be "punished," any more than the poor need to be punished. People that have worked hard and done well financially should not be "punished." But neither should they avoid their responsibilities as per Luke 12:48.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 6:13 PM
  • I'm Independent , not "Left" . I don't see how 99% making more of a sacrifice then 1% is a good thing for everybody . Who are those 1% and where are the guarantees they're pulling all of the weight for the other 99% all by their self . How do 1% get almost 50% of the wealth and 99% pay over 50% of the bills . How does this math out ?

    I have no problem with People making money , as much as they can , as much as their ideas , blood , sweat , and tears will get them . At the same time , they're Americans too , they got that Right to make money , as much as they can , as much as their ideas , blood , sweat , and tears will get them because they are Americans .

    There shouldn't be a 99% here or a 1% there , it should be a 100% American everywhere .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:41 PM
  • Republican senator criticizes Trump tax plan

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Rand Paul, a conservative maverick who helped kill the latest Republican effort to overturn Obamacare, took issue with President Donald Trump’s tax plan on Monday, asking in a tweet if it was really Republican.

    “This is a GOP tax plan? Possibly 30 percent of middle class gets a tax hike? I hope the final details are better than this,” the Kentucky Republican said in a statement on Twitter.

    Trump and top Republicans in Congress say the tax plan they released last week will deliver a big tax cut to middle-class families and to businesses, and simplify the law by doing away with myriad deductions, loopholes and tax breaks.

    But the Tax Policy Center found that many upper middle-income professionals and business people would see their tax bills go up from the loss of deductions.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-senate/republican-senator-criticizes-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:45 PM
  • I wonder how many NFL players would rush a hotel room that had a sniper inside using automatic weapons . Any guesses ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:47 PM
  • Wheels

    I believe Obama set the stage for the Government to suck the wealth out of the Nation . Everybody's wealth . Give it all to Washington DC for them to distribute as they see fit .

    This controls and oppresses the Peoples . Keeps them divided into classes or labels as the Government sees fit to it's agenda too .

    Give that wealth back to the Peoples , it's theirs , let the American People decide instead of Government .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:13 PM
  • "Goes back to the same question. You claim that "the left" always feel "the rich" need to be punished. Again, who exactly says that?"

    Just dam again. I said it. What is it with you that has to ask that same question over and over when I say something?

    Must be a slow time in the asphalt selling business that you have time to come up with these brilliant replies.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:45 PM
  • *

    Just stay with your name-calling, it becomes you. Keep in mind that "Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:14 AM

    Common: Is that why you result to name calling us poor ole Conservatives as not knowing what we are talking about. However, you are such a righteous person and all knowing servant to the DNC and their out of touch ideas on how to get more freeloaders into the fold of Dependent Democratic voters.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 8:54 PM
  • Didn't take long for the leftists to show their true colors after the result of an evil act. Even Hillary gets in her dig at Trump. The lies were just being exposed regarding Puerto Rico and the left will now blame the NRA and interpretation of the constitution that allows citizens to own guns.

    Meanwhile the federal agencies that are headed by cabinet members approved by the senate have thousands of Obama era hired people working quietly to help our President's agenda fail.

    And before I hit post, Mr Lettau, I said that.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:16 PM
  • That's fine, you're welcome to your opinion as always.

    What I would like to learn is who says "the rich must be punished."

    I'll even give you some help. The correct answer is no one.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:23 PM
  • I wonder how many NFL players would rush a hotel room that had a sniper inside using automatic weapons . Any guesses ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 7:47 PM

    Good point,Rick. Also wondering if the point of those Anthem shenanigans is protesting LEOs then what will the next game start with after all the reports of off and on duty LEOs taking care of business in Vegas. Sad to say but prob samo/samo.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • What I would like to learn is who says "the rich must be punished."

    I'll even give you some help. The correct answer is no one.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:23 PM

    I can't help that you are a slow learner.

    "The left can always find a way to claim the rich need to be punished."

    Did I say in the sentence above that some mystery "who" says that. No once again. I said that, not some 'who' you want me to quote.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM
  • *

    People that have worked hard and done well financially should not be "punished." But neither should they avoid their responsibilities as per Luke 12:48.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 6:13 PM

    Ulrich,

    Where did the Luke 12:48 business come from?

    Have you forgotten the part about Congress shall make no law organizing a religion?

    It is not the business of government to enforce Biblical demands made upon Christians by Luke or anyone else.

    That should be left up to each and everyone of us and God.

    Nor should the Christian bible be enforced on Jewish people, Muslims and Budhists among others

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 10:32 PM
  • "No once again. I said that, not some 'who' you want me to quote."

    That explains everything. You said, "The left can always find a way to claim the rich need to be punished." Which means clearly that you made it up, since you're probably not "the left."

    Now I can easily help you. Don't worry, it's not true at all. No one on the left thinks the rich need to be punished, it's apparently only your idea and consequently only your opinion.

    Your SO conservative friends must be so relieved.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 6:51 AM
  • *

    What I would like to learn is who says "the rich must be punished." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:23 PM

    “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.” — Barack Obama

    "And if we truly care about our deficit, we simply can’t afford a permanent extension of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans." - Barack Obama

    "we can ask millionaires and billionaires to make a little sacrifice." - Barack Obama

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • *

    Now I can easily help you. Don't worry, it's not true at all. No one on the left thinks the rich need to be punished, it's apparently only your idea and consequently only your opinion.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 6:51 AM

    Ulrich,

    Who died and left you in charge of speaking for the entire Leftist contingency?

    I have personally listened to Leftists who believe the wealthy need to be punished financially for doing well.

    Methinks you have no idea of what you are saying..... or worse, you are lying.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 7:43 AM
  • *

    Poor ole Common, he is so confused without the talking points from the DNC to guide him daily.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    Semo471

    For the 999th time, it appears Ulrich aka Common, is ignoring me again. 😕😎

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:24 AM
  • *

    Semo471

    Next time you go to the Supermarket, might be a good idea to check and see if Sneller's picture is on your milk cartons.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:29 AM
  • Great. Give us a name and a link to the quote, from the "leftist" that identifies the "wealthy" that "need to be punished financially for doing well."

    That shouldn't be too hard for you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:38 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:15 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:38 AM

    Sorry Ulrich, it was a brain dead Leftist acquaintance and no I am not giving you his name and believe me nothing I am aware of him saying was important enough to be published, so cannot furnish a link, there is none. Never told you it was anyone important. Just that the sentiment exists on the left.

    What do you suppose Obama's wealth redistribution was all about? Remember Joe the Plumber? Obama's wealth sharing had nothing to do with leveling the playing field so wealth could be earned. It was all about taking from one segment of the population and giving to another. Thereby "punishing the wealthy".... get it?

    Weren't the quotes Doug gave you from the ex president sufficient?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:15 AM

    Rick,

    I will read that, but not until I get to my computer. I will go blind trying to read it on this phone.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:21 AM
  • DA Braswell

    I wonder if those NFL players realize they get public paid by all races security at those stadiums before , during , and after their games too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:23 AM
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    Methinks you have no idea of what you are saying..... or worse, you are lying. -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 7:43 AM

    More than likely it's worse than that. I've observed he is clueless about what he actually is supporting.

    Low-info... as long as a 'D' is behind the name he's all in.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:26 AM
  • It shouldn't be about red or blue , Democrat or Republican , white or black or whatever race or sex . It shouldn't be about how much $$$$ is in somebody's back pocket .

    It should be Americans . The freakin' Nation is going crazy , absolutely crazy ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:27 AM
  • Low-info... as long as a 'D' is behind the name he's all in.

    ...............

    Get rid of both the (D) and the (R) completely . Don't divide the Peoples by who they voted for in the last election . It's the career Politician who's causing the mess in DC more then anything .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:30 AM
  • Great. Give us a name and a link to the quote, from the "leftist" that identifies the "wealthy" that "need to be punished financially for doing well."

    That shouldn't be too hard for you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:38 AM

    As I said, You are a slow learner

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:38 AM
  • *

    Get rid of both the (D) and the (R) completely . Don't divide the Peoples by who they voted for in the last election . It's the career Politician who's causing the mess in DC more then anything .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:30 AM

    Rick

    I certainly agree on the politicians in Washington being most of our problem.

    But we elected an outsider last election and look what we have now. Virtually all of the politicians both D and R working against him with close to 100% of the Left who do not want him to succeed. And then there is the media.

    Trump wasn't my first choice, but he was hands down a better bet than the alternate.

    The following is very telling. Big odds against much being accomplished.

    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/817210?ns_mail_uid=8517129&ns_mail_job=...

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:58 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:29 AM

    Wheels: Mic2 is too busy in the daily protesting up in the St. Louis area....wonder what he is getting paid to do so.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:06 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:58 AM

    Wheels: Your link sums it all up - the news media is biased just like Pres. Trump has stated many times and the fools/snowflakes just can't get over their big lost on Nov. 9,2017 at 2am.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:11 AM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:11 AM

    And America will pay the price for this.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:13 AM
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    The following, posted less than 48 hours of Trump being declared the winner is very telling of the Leftist's intentions. There was to be no cooperation to support and help the new President or America succeed. Only oposition.

    So, we all lose!

    Nov 10, 2016, at 11:00 AM:

    "Now that Mr. Trump has elevated himself to a "pedestal," it's more important than ever to document what he says."

    And for the small minded person who posted it..... Trump did not elevate himself to a "pedestal"!

    The voters of the greatest Nation in the World did!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:29 AM
  • *

    Both establishments of the Democratic and Republican parties along with the biased news media can't stand it that a non-politician stuck it to them all that can't be bought out by special interest groups. That fear of non-control is what drives them crazy.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:51 AM
  • "Just that the sentiment exists on the left."

    Right, that's only your opinion. No one ever said it except for your "...brain dead Leftist acquaintance." And you believe whatever he says? That's funny, because I don't believe any of my "brain dead conservative acquaintances" who shall also remain nameless.

    "Wealth redistribution" appears to be a favorite conservative term for welfare of any sort. However, they don't seem to apply it to corporate welfare, or if a billionaire doesn't pay taxes because of loopholes that his Congressman inserted, or if income from capital gains is not counted as income, or converting Medicaid to a block grant.

    The objective all along has been to rationalize the tax code to eliminate decades of loopholes, and simplify it with a long range goal to balance budgets and reduce deficits. "Punishing the rich" has nothing to do with it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:04 AM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:51 AM

    Add to that, it scares them to death it will destroy their personal wealth build nachine.

    Look at Maxine Waters for instance. What has she done to build wealth but be a part of the elite club in Washington. And she lives in a mansion, while pretending to serve the poor. A truly disgusting example.

    And she has lots of company in Washington. She just stands out with her big mouth deriding Trump constantly.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:04 AM
  • Wheels

    My opinion , Trump needs to put that cell phone down and stop his tweets , get down to some serious business . Why is he fighting with Hollywood and athletes on twitter when there's so much other issues that need to be addressed ? Stop the tweet fights with Congress , get his *** over there and talk to them face to face , get **** done . And , it's not all about him either , it's about Americans , what's good for all of us , not just what's good for him in the spot light .

    I'm glad Hillary didn't get in the White House , the out of control downward spiral Obama started would have only gained speed . Things are bad enough as it is now , just imagine how much worse it would be ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:06 AM
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    "No one ever said it except for your "...brain dead Leftist acquaintance." And you believe whatever he says? That's funny, because I don't believe any of my "brain dead conservative acquaintances" who shall also remain nameless."

    Dang, you really get around Ulrich. "No one ever said it except for your "...brain dead Leftist acquaintance.""

    You are professing to know that he is the only one to have ever said it. Makes me really curious to know how you are aware of the feelings of all on the Left. Personally when you boil it all down, I think you are full of it. Better stick to a hobby of writing fiction Ulrich, you are way to careless with the truth to try and relate facts in your writings..

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:17 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:06 AM

    I think we're about on the same page.

    Now, I have to run. Got an appointment soon.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 11:21 AM
  • "You are professing to know that he is the only one to have ever said it."

    That must be. You're the one that gave him credit. That's what's so laughable. Too bad you're so easily confused and weak on facts.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 12:12 PM
  • You have to know the past to understand the present.

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 12:37 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 12:12 PM

    That is about as dumb a response as I have seen you make yet.

    Maybe you would like to read it and see if you understand what you said.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 1:59 PM
  • Not surprising that you comprehend so little. I've learned to expect virtually nothing sensible from you and have never been disappointed.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 2:30 PM
  • It's getting a bit old having to explain things to you repeatedly. Perhaps it would be better for you to just ignore things you don't understand or want to believe.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 2:41 PM
  • *

    Just stay with your name-calling, it becomes you. Keep in mind that "Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 9:14 AM

    Not surprising that you comprehend so little. I've learned to expect virtually nothing sensible from you and have never been disappointed.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 2:30 PM

    Common: Looks like you're losing the battle since you resorted to name calling....

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:24 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 2:30 PM

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 2:41 PM

    When you don't have an answer Ulrich, you always revert to childish behaiour.

    I'll just leave it at that on this issue.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:26 PM
  • Thought that might wake you out of your afternoon stupor.

    Please do leave it at that, and I'll happily ignore you totally.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:30 PM
  • *

    Please do leave it at that, and I'll happily ignore you totally. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:30 PM

    Once again - who values your opinion other than your wife? LOL.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:36 PM
  • *

    Semo471 and Doug. You think some 9 year old kid out in Scopus hi-jacked Ulrich's ID and is posting in his place perhaps? The level on which the posts are being made recently makes me wonder.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:57 PM
  • *

    I have been confined to quarters pretty much recently, healing up from a shoulder replacement. Got the ok to move about and drive again this afternoon. Was getting tired of looking out the window and counting cars.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 4:02 PM
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    The level on which the posts are being made recently makes me wonder. -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:57 PM

    I would almost agree except that I think his posts are closer to that of a two-year old. :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 4:05 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 3:57 PM

    Wheels: Probably so. The DNC website must be down because Common is having to think for himself after 8 years. Those darn Russians!

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 6:50 PM
  • Wheels

    I'm glad you're getting out and about . It stinks being holed up , no doubt ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:29 PM
  • Trump administration backs giving 'Dreamers' path to citizenship

    ........

    The Trump administration would support legislation allowing illegal immigrants who came to the United States as children to gain lawful permanent status and eventually citizenship, a Department of Homeland Security official said in testimony to Congress on Tuesday.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-administration-backs-giving-dreamer...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 8:57 PM
  • In Africa , some idiot shoots a lion and it's the shooter's fault . In America , one person shoots another and it's the gun's fault ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 9:03 PM
  • I have said along we will end up with another form of amnesty. Only difference this time depends on securing our borders.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 10:45 PM
  • Back on topic...

    ...a "real President dedicated to US interests."

    A US interest such as Puerto Rico which was chastised with the words “'I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack'” as if it was their fault that Category 4 Hurricane Maria passed directly over the island “surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.”

    Admittedly, President Trump has accomplished thing never done by a President before, as in tossing a few rolls of paper towels to an assembled group of natural disaster victims.

    And this is not my “dumping on Trump.” It’s what he actually said and did. If anyone is “dumping,” it is President Trump himself.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 6:42 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 6:42 AM

    Common: Lighten up a little, the President was just joking with the folks there. If that's all you Dependent Democrats have - it's not much. If it offends you then go burn all of your paper towels.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 7:59 AM
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    Poor, poor Ulrich, he will never get over Hillary Clinton loosing the election.

    I bet he has read "What Happened" at least 3 times trying to find the answer. He could have saved the price of the book.

    It's all right there on the cover Ulrich.

    The question... What happened.

    The answer... Hillary Clonton.

    Not original, borrowed it from a Sunday morning TV show and cannot remember the guys name, but it really ticked off his Leftist opponent.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 8:14 AM
  • Just who exactly 1s saying that? [As common likes to ask]

    Or is this just another one of your wish it was true comments from a SO Progressive leftist mindset?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 8:20 AM
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    Richard

    When the Bollinger County Sage(brush) speaks, who are we to challenge him?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 8:34 AM
  • Ralph, I have been assigned more important things for today than educate him. :) Will try to catch up tonight.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:31 AM
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    Richard,

    I suspect there isn't enough time left in our combined lifetimes to educate Ulrich. He is a hardcore Democrat who will believe exactly what the party bosses dictate he believes. If that is Socialism, leading to Communism.... so be it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM
  • "Back on topic..."

    .........

    Throwing paper towels was the topic ? What did I miss .

    People live in the Caribbean Region by choice , they know it is a hurricane region just as we know our area is a flood plain and tornado alley . Is this an excuse for Trump's actions yesterday , no . Should they be acting all surprised because a hurricane hit them and they weren't prepared , no . Don't forget , the previous President and the one before him , or the one before him , weren't heroes either .

    The supplies were there but not moving . Why ? The Island claims there was no communications , how was the army of mass media reporting from the Island showing all of the devastation ? Why wasn't there prepared communication systems set-up in case of hurricanes -- this wasn't the very first time a hurricane hit that part of the world .

    Is it a bad situation , yes . Did they have any prepared procedures set-up due to prior history events , no . The first time was shame on historic hurricanes , the second time is shame on them .

    The bottom line , Puerto Rico is not the United States , by it's own hand it has voted not to become a State . The USA is still dealing with Houston and Florida , Puerto Rico can get in line .

    Some folks did to pull their head out of Obama's ***...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 11:29 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 11:02 AM

    Wheels: It's an impossible task of educating Common....too much empty space between the ears.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 11:33 AM
  • "...for today than educate him."

    That is a shame, you have no idea how much I have been looking forward to learning from you.

    As a matter of fact, it would be amazing if we could actually meet, and you could teach me in person. I'd be more than willing to do exactly that, just name a time and date within the next few weeks, and a place in the Cape Girardeau/Jackson area.

    I look forward to meeting you. Thanks much.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:12 PM
  • *

    I look forward to meeting you. Thanks much.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:12 PM

    Common: Sounds like a threat to me....you might want to be careful with your comments.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • Violence is a valuable lesson that can only be taught up close and personal .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • Be careful what you wish for , you just might get it...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:18 PM
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    Sounds like a threat to me.... -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:17 PM

    No surprise considering his fellow democrats are violent Antifa and communist protestors burning, looting and assaulting people with chains.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:33 PM
  • "Sounds like a threat to me...."

    Why would you say that? How is it that the idea of discussing issues civilly, in person is so frightening?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:56 PM
  • *

    Why would you say that? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:56 PM

    Looks like the people you think with and associate with are violent. The leftists like yourself know no "civility".

    You lay with dogs, you get fleas.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 1:05 PM
  • How does in person make it more civilly ?

    You're losing me here..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 5:10 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 5:44 PM
  • *

    Brings back memories of the Beer Summit.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 6:12 PM
  • *

    "Sounds like a threat to me...."

    Why would you say that? How is it that the idea of discussing issues civilly, in person is so frightening?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 12:56 PM

    Common: After your heated discussion with Wheels earlier, you then want to meet to "discuss" in person - well that has the makings of a threat.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 7:23 PM
  • What "heated" discussion? I certainly did not look at it in that manner.

    I would expect that even SO conservatives can behave civilly, or in a civil fashion, when discussing issues face-to-face.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 7:35 PM
  • Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 5:44 PM

    And they handed out Congressional Medals of Honor like Halloween candy. Maybe the Las Vegas shooter should get one because as one CNN nitwit said "They(the country music fans)were probably Trump supportors".

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 7:36 PM
  • I take nothing Mr. Lettau says as a threat and supposing we casually found the same big box store bench to sit on and began with the usual weather or other meaningless conversation and turned to current events or even political talk, if we didn't know one another, we would both leave with our opinions unchanged. We would part as cordially as we talked. We might both go away wondering if that could have been one of our opposites on the forums.

    So I thank you common for the invite but see little point in it. You can always practice your powers of persuasion on your family and friends if any of them are still talking to you. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 8:21 PM
  • I'm still mixfused as to how being conservative , or liberal , could make a meeting in person more civil . Seems like trying to keep an open mind would work better but that's just me...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 8:48 PM
  • Pretty much what I expected from you, Mr. Bess, avoidance is an easy reaction.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 9:05 PM
  • Also sense a little bit of "don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 9:08 PM
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    avoidance is an easy reaction. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 9:05 PM

    Says they guy who avoids anyone who quotes his own words back to him. Precious. It's an easy reaction for you isn't it? Much easier than explaining your own words. I know they taste bad.

    Hypocrisy at it's highest from a leftist/socialist.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 9:19 PM
  • .... "avoidance is an easy reaction." So did you get that idea from your friends and family? I suspect facts have little to do with your logic.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 9:23 PM
  • Facts -- sometimes the truth is stranger then fiction..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:05 PM
  • *

    Time to wake up from the couch and go to bed. Wonder what I missed on TV.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:15 PM
  • ...sometimes the truth is stranger then fiction..

    https://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/two-us-constitutions

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:19 PM
  • .. the (D) and the (R) are used to keep the Peoples fighting and divided so Washington , DC can keep on hummim' along...a good way to stay $20 trillion in debt favors to somebody

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:36 PM
  • Ralph, We didn't miss anything new from common today. Hope I didn't keep him from an asphalt sale waiting on me to reply.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 10:49 PM
  • Well yes, you really did.

    You, having been the one to say you lacked time right then to "educate" me, dropped it like a hot rock, when I offered you the chance.

    I recognize there is so much you'd have difficulty defending on a face-to-face basis.

    As I said before, no surprises here, but it is something new.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:35 AM
  • *

    Well yes, you really did.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:35 AM

    What was missed.....

    Richard and/or me learning something new, or you missed making an asphalt sale?

    Go ahead and do your Pigeon on the Chessboard act, then I'll explain it to you below.

    tap

    tap

    tap

    Thought you would have gotten it a couple of years ago from your proposed Beer Summit where nobody showed up. What is to be gained from a face to face with an individual with a locked closed mind?

    Hell, you run and hide when on the losing end of a discussion in a neutral situation like the forums. First it's resorting to childish patter... that doesn't work, next you try ignoring a poster.

    I wouldn't walk across the street for a personal meeting with someone with a totally closed mind.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 5:23 AM
  • "...face to face with an individual with a locked closed mind?"

    It would be an opportunity for Mr. Bess to face reality, unlock his closed mind, and see issues as they really exist. I'm afraid that others, such as you, may be beyond help. Sorry, you weren't invited.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 6:53 AM
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    Sorry, you weren't invited.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 6:53 AM

    Well, bless your pea picking little heart Ulrich, you saved me the trouble of having to send my regrets.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 7:27 AM
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    Good Morning America, how are you.

    Today I celebrate 60 years of Matrimonial Bliss.

    Started the day with breakfast up the street, next stop, go see the Therapist to start training my new shoulder to keep up with the old one.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM
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    Common: This video is for you and your meeting proposal, enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1v4BYV-YvA

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM
  • Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:43 AM

    :) :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:01 AM
  • Tell of this reality you speak of, who's reality is it and why are you the only one wanting me to face it?

    Is it a another Russian collusion thing?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:29 AM
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    Is it a another Russian collusion thing? -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:29 AM

    Could be how Obama killed off ISIS...

    Could be how Obama personally killed bin Laden...

    Could be how Obama saved the country and world...

    I can't tell you exactly what it would be, but it would be very very predictable. The ONLY reason I would ever want to meet a leftist/socialist like Lettau would be to see if he has a cross around his neck with Obama nailed to it. :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:32 AM
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    Lettau would be easy to pick out in a crowd. He would be wearing this t-shirt:

    http://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/2014/April/2014-04-18-Obama-Jesus.jpg

    :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:37 AM
  • Rick Lettau

    We have Sit Downs on the Rez , they last 2 or 3 days at the least . We set and achieve goals plus settle issues of the Peoples .

    What goals do you propose to achieve or issues to settle during a couple of hours meeting that haven't been done over years on Speak Out ? Why , or how , does a personal meeting make a difference if it's not a united tribe , would it not be opinion only just as Speak Out is opinion only .

    What is the reasoning , what is your goal .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 10:39 AM
  • "Tell of this reality you speak of..."

    Easy, for example:

    Conservatives claim democrats want everyone dependent on government. In reality, were that the case no one would be paying taxes. Even conservatives should understand that. Democrats, being realistic, want everyone gainfully employed and not dependent on government.

    Or this:

    Candidate Trump wanted to deport 11 million illegals, which conservatives seemed to support. Realistically, that's virtually impossible, especially since so many of them are productive contributors to the economy. The actual felons and gang members have been being deported for years, and that should continue. But in reality, bi-partisan immigration reform is absolutely essential.

    Or this:

    Conservatives continually complain about the deficit but do nothing about it. In one version of the 2018 budget over $300 billion or about 1/3 of a trillion is to pay interest. Being realistic, the idea that tax breaks will "grow the economy" has not worked, and tax reform to increase revenue, dedicated to deficit reduction, is an a sensible approach.

    There's nothing there that has not been brought up before, but those are examples, of many more, where conservatives are not being realistic.

    As for Russian "collusion." Of course there was some, just look at the Trump kid telling the Russian agent, yes we definitely want "dirt on Hillary." And the Russians were pro-Trump.

    It did not effect the end result of the election. Being realistic, it was the private e-mail use, as successfully overblown and exaggerated by republicans that lost her votes in the wrong states.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM
  • *

    In reality, were that the case no one would be paying taxes.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM

    45% of Americans do pay taxes and 55% don't. Your marxist agenda is working to achieve your goal of reparations and wealth redistribution. Anti-American.

    ===

    Candidate Trump wanted to deport 11 million illegals, which conservatives seemed to support. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM

    Trump never said he was going to permanently deport 11 million. CNN did. Hillary did. La Raza did. But he didn't. More leftist hype.

    7/28/2016 interview with CBS: "We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally," he continued. "They will go out. They will come back -- some will come back, the best, through a process. They have to come back legally."

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:20 PM
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    It did not effect the end result of the election. Being realistic, it was the private e-mail use, as successfully overblown and exaggerated by republicans that lost her votes in the wrong states. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM

    Common: "What Happen" - Hillary's email crimes were never meant to be investigated as proven in the aftermath by Comey's own comments and it's just a "Matter" per paid off DOJ Lynch....good grief man open your eyes and get the sand out of your ears and leave the Dark Force in the DNC and come into the Light of the RNC.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:38 PM
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    Being realistic, it was the private e-mail use, as successfully overblown and exaggerated by republicans that lost her votes in the wrong states.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM

    Ulrich

    Let's quit blaming Republicans for Hillary's loss. The front cover tells it all as follows.....

    Question: What Happened?

    Answer: Hillary Clinton

    My disclaimer, same as last time I posted it for you.

    You had a badly flawed candidate, supposedly the best the Democratic National Party had to offer.

    Speaks volumes doesn't it Ulrich?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:56 PM
  • When Comey opened the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s basement email server, he become persona non grata in the Clinton camp.

    Then fast-forward to July 2016, when Director Comey announced that he would not prosecute Clinton. Suddenly, Comey was like the prodigal son who had come home. Democrats heaped praise on him for his courage to do the right thing.

    But like most summer romances, this one was headed toward a hard breakup come fall. On Oct. 28, Comey announced that he had reopened the investigation into the Clinton email scandal and, again, Clinton supporters were crying foul. As recently as May 2, USA TODAY reported that Mrs. Clinton was publicly blaming Comey for her loss to now-President Trump.

    Now just a week later, Democrats and the press can find nothing but glowing superlatives to heap on the former director. Does anyone think that if Hillary Clinton had been elected last fall that she would not have dismissed Comey from his post? And she likely would have fired him much sooner.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/11/hillary-clinton-would-have-fir...

    ..........

    "Democrats" seem to have a love/hate with Trump . He was a "Democrat" at one point in time . Those "Democrats" loved him during the "Republican" primaries while he was knocking off the "Republican" favorites one by one , they laughed and supported him with glee -- no Russian collusion then !!

    Oh what a scwewy web we weave .

    Get over the election already , move on , how much time has Congress lost on the Clinton e-mail/Trump Russian fiascos ? The Government is dirty , has been , will be..anything that lets anybody -- Obama!! -- can't be on the up and up ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 1:27 PM
  • If Trump wants to give tax breaks to the Middle , then give it to the Middle , don't give it to somebody else to hand over to the Middle . Why play 3 Card Monte ?

    Yeah , "create jobs , blah , blah" , more like take the money and run . This song has been played before . Let the Middle take the money and run for a change , tax breaks should start in the Middle first , let the Middle expand the economy as it sees fit .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 1:42 PM
  • The Central Bank , Federal Reserve , will manipulate interest rates anyway to rip off People so Government will get it's lion's share .

    Give the Middle a little hope...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 1:55 PM
  • I think Putin was surprised as anyone over Trump winning. He had teams of people gathering dirt on Clinton to keep her in line after she won. The democrats made a point of dirty play to get her nominated and the leaked emails had to be explained so they started the Russian BS and it keeps coming back to bite them. Until the cabinet departments are purged of all the Obama loyal appointees the beat goes on. The reality is many leftist have been dishonest for so long they believe their own fantasies.

    Raising taxes for more revenue has never reduced debt only spending reductions can do that.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 2:18 PM
  • The entitlement crowd hasn't been paying anything for quite awhile and it's growing faster then brown prairie grass burns . Now the idea has been made for the top to pay less too . This leaves even more burden on the middle , the banks of a river can only hold so much water before the flood .

    When half the People get the idea they are getting something for nothing and the other half get the idea they are getting nothing for something ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM
  • I don't think the idea has been made for the the top to pay less, that is what democrats always claim when republicans want to help the average working folks.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 6:37 PM
  • *

    Raising taxes for more revenue has never reduced debt only spending reductions can do that.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 2:18 PM

    OJ: More revenue means more free stuff for the Dependent Freeloading Democrats. The only way to reduce the Debt is like you said is to reduce spending.

    *******

    Being realistic, the idea that tax breaks will "grow the economy" has not worked, and tax reform to increase revenue, dedicated to deficit reduction, is an a sensible approach.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 12:03 PM

    Common: For your education Google Pres. Kennedy and Pres. Reagan's tax cuts because they do work as history has proven.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 7:38 PM
  • *

    You could also google "Trump Bump". A record run on the stock market since he's been in office.

    Doesn't mean much to me but to Commie Lettau it should. Since he bragged for years about Obama's greatness and the stock market.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 8:05 PM
  • semo, I'm not yet convinced upward numbers of the stock market is reason to celebrate. What goes up may come down and inspire politicians to find reason to plunder again.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 8:38 PM
  • My opinion , stocks are like playing the ponies . History has shown what playing the ponies can do , plus , it's a world wide market now , it's not USA exclusive . It's all funny money -- a person can't make chicken salad out of chicken **** .

    I struggle with the whole democrat/republican thing -- liberal/conservative . Obama played the Republican against the bottom , now Trump plays the democrat against the top . Each side blames the other , nothing but "entitlements" or "cut those taxes for the top" . The middle gets sucker punched every time .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:21 PM
  • Mr. Schaefer,

    For your education, Google to see what tax rates were back then.

    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to a recession.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:30 PM
  • My opinion , 9/11 had more to do with a down turn then politics .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:45 PM
  • *

    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to a recession.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:30 PM

    Common: The recession was due to the Housing Bubble Burst which was the fault (google it) of Pres. Bill Clinton's giving certain types of folks the ability to get house loans with little or no collateral and then these fine folks couldn't come up with the monthly payments and the rest is history.

    Now go back and research the tax cuts for improvements in the economy and then let us know that you have become an informed member of the USA citizenry.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:57 PM
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    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to a recession. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:30 PM

    More Alinsky "repeat a lie often enough and people (lemmings) will begin to believe it".

    It was a "financial" crisis, not a "tax cut" crisis. The government didn't collapse from lack of funds. The banks did from loans that Bush warned Congress and democrats about.

    Get educated in Marble Hill...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:17 AM
  • Common: The recession was due to the Housing Bubble Burst which was the fault (google it) of Pres. Bill Clinton's giving certain types of folks the ability to get house loans with little or no collateral and then these fine folks couldn't come up with the monthly payments and the rest is history.

    Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Oct 5, 2017, at 9:57 PM

    Indeed.

    -- Posted by Donna Runnels on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:19 AM
  • I could be wrong but didn't Obama extend BushII's tax cuts ?

    The stock market has been going through the roof since Trump was elected , why haven't these earnings and gains been used to create and expand jobs , what's the need for tax cuts . Stop spending money . Cut Foreign Aide in half and use the money here for a start , instead of buying 9 toys for $1 a piece Made in China , but 3 toys at $3 a piece Made in the USA for another .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:58 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:12 AM
  • "Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to a recession."

    If you don't care to believe that, try this...

    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to negative job growth.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:12 AM

    Rick,

    If there is a budget cut, who do you suppose will be the first guy laid off?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • Wheels

    Who decides if there's a need for a budget cut .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:18 AM
  • If gains are being made in the markets why would there be a need for budget cuts .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:20 AM
  • *

    PS: Rick, they need a time study guy running around with a yellow legal pad and a pencil. Jose can carry a couple of more on his back.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:21 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:18 AM

    Beats me. Don't know if your picture took the market price into account, but Jose is still at the top of the layoff list.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:25 AM
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    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to negative job growth. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:17 AM

    Your problem is you're the only who who can recall such fabricated BS.

    Any fair person knows that Bush inherited the tech bubble burst and high unemployment from Clinton. Then things got better until the financial investment banking collapse (see: Democrats fault).

    No one denies Obama inherited a financial mess when he came into office. Your partisan Obama-love blinds you - you can see what Obama inherited and then deny what Bush inherited.

    Just another of many reasons why you have no credibility.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:28 AM
  • What I'm saying is when the middle has money they are spending . When they are spending the top is producing , everybody is busy all the time . It should start bringing the bottom up ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:28 AM
  • Wheels

    There has to be a ROI figured into the costs somewhere , no ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:29 AM
  • *

    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to negative job growth.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:17 AM

    Ulrich,

    It was the Democrat inspired housing bust that put this country in the tank, nothing more, nothing less. Bush tried to warn them, but nobody would listen. Barney Fwank was one of the protectors of cheap no money down loans without consideration of ability to pay back. Hell give them another 10% so they can but furniture for the free houses.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:34 AM
  • If you don't care to believe that, try this...

    Then recall how the President Bush tax cuts led to negative job growth.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:17 AM

    USA was booming under Reagan and BushI , odd how NAFTA came along with Clinton and things went to hell but it's best not to bring this up...

    "That great sucking sound" , as Ross Perot said

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:34 AM
  • Just think , we could have had ClintonII !!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:37 AM
  • *

    There has to be a ROI figured into the costs somewhere , no ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:29 AM

    Not with government.... Rembert this is a government operation.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:45 AM
  • *

    Just think , we could have had ClintonII !!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:37 AM

    Yeah, that should send a chill up your spine.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:47 AM
  • Taxes are almost like the length of a minute , it depends on which side of the bathroom door a person is on ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • Not sure how it's done anymore but when we were in Corporate each Dept. were given a budget . If any Dept. came back in the red , whoever was responsible for that Dept. was out the door . It was all about labor and material costs . ROI driven by the big shots , it was their bonus money .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 9:47 AM
  • I thought the "Blame Bush" game was old news. When you have nothing else I guess it's still a fall back position. Two have been tossed out,maybe a third will do the trick.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 11:07 AM
  • *

    Latest economic report in September: "Americans Are Pouring Back Into the Workforce, Jobs Data Show"

    "The number of people going from out-of-the-labor-market into jobs jumped to an all-time high last month, the Bureau of Labor Statistic’s employment report showed on Friday, even as the number of people flowing into unemployment fell."

    ===

    Thank you president Obama!!! OOOPS! I forget he hasn't been involved in 9 months. Thank you Donald Trump!!!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 4:47 PM
  • There's no need to cut taxes to create jobs .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 5:03 PM
  • *

    Poor ole Dependent Liberal Democrats don't have a clue about anything concerning American values, wants, and wishes. All they know is to be 100% anti-Trump....the American people and voters in 2018 and 2020 will remember the "Resistance".

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 5:13 PM
  • Correct that , cut taxes for the People who need it , the Middle , not the Top .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 5:19 PM
  • *

    The Liberals are in an uproar about no Federal Money for women's birth control. Can't any responsible women scrap up this small amount for their protection and to limit the abortions in the USA.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/noel-sheppard/2012/03/05/attention-media-wa...

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 5:28 PM
  • "blacklivesmatter" except abortions..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 6:22 PM
  • Insure to me means financial compensation for something that might happen. I don't think the cost of birth control is anything to insure against, maybe the cost of an unplanned childbirth but not the prevention of the pregnancy. Otherwise you could justify the cost of toothpaste to prevent needing a dentist.

    If people had to pay for routine dr visits and check ups out of pocket, you would be surprised how many would be competing for routine services and check up dollars.

    $10 for ten minute dental screening places and $10 Xray places everywhere fine tooth brushes are sold.

    How much less could your primary/family doc charge if he didn't need 3 employees just to handle the insurance billing?

    The way it is now the co-pay exceeds the value of the service as the providers feel they have to overcharge and expect an underpay.

    Just my opinion and no, common, you need not ask who says that, your job is to support single payer for everything.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 6:56 PM
  • "...Liberal Democrats don't have a clue about anything concerning American values, wants, and wishes."

    Mr. Schaefer,

    Sometimes it’s hard to recognize what planet you live on.

    I'd say that's a not having a clue is conservative problem. Aside from them being only for tax cuts for the rich, dumping poor into the street, eliminating all medical help, and keeping non-whites from voting, deporting all immigrants, and cutting off all contact with the rest of the world, what do they favor?

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    The values, wants and wishes of democratic Americans are completely straightforward.

    The values are love and respect of country, full support for the military, and the ability of people to live their own lives.

    The wants are good jobs for all, equal opportunity under the law, educational options to allow personal fulfillment, and stabilization and restructuring of Social Security and Medicare to self-sufficiency.

    The wishes are for positive movement toward smaller and less expensive government through zero-based budgeting, reform of taxes to reduce deficits, limits of length and amounts of welfare participation.

    That’s what my values, wants and wishes are. Which do you disagree with.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:19 PM
  • When half the People get the idea they are getting something for nothing and the other half get the idea they are getting nothing for something ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:27 PM
  • "I'd say that's a not having a clue is conservative problem."

    Correction...

    I'd say that not having a clue is conservative problem.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:28 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:19 PM

    The word I see missing from this post is Medicaid .

    To me , this word alone is half the problem .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:41 PM
  • *

    Aside from them being only for tax cuts for the rich, dumping poor into the street, eliminating all medical help, and keeping non-whites from voting, deporting all immigrants, and cutting off all contact with the rest of the world, what do they favor?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:19 PM

    Ulrich,

    Where so you find that written. I have heard similar nonsense from Leftist Democrats in the past, but nowhere have I seen it written. You post it as a question but there is no question, you are making a statement.

    You're big on wanting to see a link to a statement made by others.

    So show us a link from Conservatives stating exactly what you just said.

    In plain English.... time to put up or shut up.

    Your trashing Conservatives nearly daily is making you a more irrelevant party hack as days pass.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:49 PM
  • If immigration is going to be an issue , let's go all the way back to 1492 .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:50 PM
  • Mr. VanGennip,

    Your trashing liberals nearly daily is making you a more irrelevant party hack as days pass.

    Perhaps you didn't notice.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:07 PM
  • The values, wants and wishes of democratic Americans are completely straight forward. Just who are these democratic Americans you mention. Democracy is 5 wolves and 1 sheep voting on whats for dinner. About the rest of that BS, when did Obama say all that?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:32 PM
  • Here's another question: "Aside from them being only for tax cuts for the rich, dumping poor into the street, eliminating all medical help, and keeping non-whites from voting, deporting all immigrants, and cutting off all contact with the rest of the world, what do they favor?" Where in the H did you hear that? Wait, maybe I should ask who is saying that. The Trump haters are saying that and the media reports it as if it is grounded in some kind of truth and people like you actually believe it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:45 PM
  • *

    Mr. VanGennip,

    Your trashing liberals nearly daily is making you a more irrelevant party hack as days pass.

    Perhaps you didn't notice.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 8:07 PM

    Ulrich,

    You remind me of a little sister, anything I accuse you of you pretty much repeat it back and accuse me of it.

    Wonder if anybody else has ever noticed that.

    Maybe I will start referring to you as "Lil Sister".

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 9:06 PM
  • -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 9:53 PM
  • *

    "The values are love and respect of country, full support for the military, and the ability of people to live their own lives."

    Sure the Dems have love and respect of country, that's why they are 100% anti-Trump. The Dems support the NFL players taking a knee during the National Anthem - that's respect of country? Guess Obama supported the Military by letting the Navy shrink in number of ships and the Army by downsizing the amount of soldiers in uniform.

    "The wants are good jobs for all, equal opportunity under the law, educational options to allow personal fulfillment, and stabilization and restructuring of Social Security and Medicare to self-sufficiency."

    Good jobs, that's why the Dems let all of the good manufacturing jobs to leave the country during the last 8 years with no attempt to bring any of them back. The rest of your statement is what any American would want.

    "The wishes are for positive movement toward smaller and less expensive government through zero-based budgeting, reform of taxes to reduce deficits, limits of length and amounts of welfare participation."

    Sounds like you have been converted to the Republican party - knew you would finally come to your senses.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 7:19 PM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 10:20 PM
  • *

    Common: BTW, I'm from the USA and proud to have a President that wants America to be First and one that wants to make America great again.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 10:23 PM
  • *

    proud to have a President that wants America to be First -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 10:23 PM

    Yes.

    As opposed to a president who colludes with the Russians and tells them to hang on until after the election so he'll have more flexibility.

    What incompetent president would whisper that to the Russian president for Vladimir Putin? Barack Hussein Obama.

    Now that's REAL Russian collusion. And Lettau loved him for it.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 7:23 AM
  • “The values, wants and wishes of democratic Americans are completely straight forward. Just who are these democratic Americans you mention.”

    Obviously, I am one and I don’t know any democrat that believes differently.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “Where in the H did you hear that?”

    The Trump tax plan lowers the top rate and increases the bottom rate and eliminates the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax. That alone will save the President, his family, his Cabinet and others billions of dollars. If that's not a "tax cut for the rich" what is it?

    As for dumping on the poor. The Trump budget cuts almost $300 billion in disability benefits and food stamps. Ironically, many of those being “dumped” were Trump supporters.

    The 2018 budget also seeks 100’s of billions in Medicaid cuts and ACA “repeal” will take insurance from millions.

    Republicans have systematically supported anti-voting measures at the state level, with the clear goal of reducing the non-white vote. Some have been successful and others stopped by the courts, nevertheless they’re still trying.

    The Trump campaign had a stated goal of deporting 11 million or so illegals, and has no started reducing immigration levels.

    President Trump has surrendered the controlling interest in Pacific trade to the Chinese, he is convincing the Europeans that the US is not a reliable ally in NATO, he has abdicated US leadership in global alternative energy and climate change, and his America first chant is rightfully being interpreted by the rest of the world as “America only.”

    Perhaps, Mr. Bess you should pay more attention to what is going on and avoid the Fox entertainment channel and Hannity/Limbaugh.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 12:20 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 12:20 PM

    Lil' Sister,

    If I had to describe your post, best description I can think of is a "Litany of Lies".

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 1:06 PM
  • "The Trump tax plan lowers the top rate and increases the bottom rate" Again where did you hear that?

    " and eliminates the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax" How is that a tax cut for the rich?

    "The Trump budget cuts almost $300 billion in disability benefits and food stamps." Your number is way high but it has been agreed there are $millions given to people unqualified for the programs.

    "and ACA “repeal” will take insurance from millions." Repeal without replacement is not Trumps agenda.Millions have lost insurance due to the Obamacare scheme already.

    "Republicans have systematically supported anti-voting measures at the state level, with the clear goal of reducing the non-white vote." Democrats have systematically supported allowing unqualified people to vote and even assisted in illegal voting.

    "The Trump campaign had a stated goal of deporting 11 million or so illegals, " The key word being "had", anyone familiar with how things work knows that congress makes law.

    "President Trump has surrendered the controlling interest in Pacific trade" What controlling interest was that?

    The rest of your rant just bolsters my point about progressive leftist Speak Out logic.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 2:35 PM
  • It's difficult to understand how you could believe what you wrote. When I have some more time I'll explain in more detail for you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 4:05 PM
  • I understand how you believe what you wrote. I can even understand to some degree how some people can be radicalized to the point of being dangerous to themselves and society.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 4:36 PM
  • I'll make time...

    You ask how is the elimination of the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax a tax cut for the rich?

    Seriously?

    The estate tax applies to estates of over $6 million or so. You may not, but I consider that "rich." Eliminating it is a tax cut for the rich.

    The AMT applies mainly to wealthy tax filers that have numerous deductions and but for the AMT would pay no tax. The best example is President Trump's payment of $31 million in 2005 because of the AMT. Were there no AMT he would have paid nothing. That's a tax cut for the rich.

    As for tax rates. Reducing the top rate from around 38% to 36% is a tax cut for the rich. Increasing the lowest rate from 10% to 12% is a tax increase on the poor.

    Get it now?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 5:01 PM
  • I'm a proud tax paying American but I could be just as proud paying less. :Author Godfrey.

    The alternative minimum tax was a democrat scheme to pay for the unearned tax credits that complies with the democrat leftist agenda of wealth redistribution. The estate tax is another targeted statist idea to harm the American economy. Look up 'How much does it cost to be a farmer', about 5 million to just get started. Many family built businesses have a value of over 6 million and when the founding generation is gone the tax forces the end of the business ending the jobs of a lot of proud tax paying Americans.

    About 50% of Americans pay no income tax so increasing the lowest rate from 10% to 12% is not a tax increase on the poor.

    Lower taxes for all was never a partisan issue until leftists made it that when George W Bush proposed it. The Letaus of the country were in a hate Bush frenzy then just as they are now in a hate Trump frenzy.

    Npoe you will never get it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 8:01 PM
  • Reckon Lettau is in lock step with Hillary blaming everyone but the shooter for the LV shooting.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 8:08 PM
  • Mr. Bess,

    I'm afraid you've been chugging conservative "Kool-Aid" too long.

    "...but the shooter for the LV shooting."

    And where did that idiocy come from. Of course the shooter is solely to blame. Why would anyone blame anyone else?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 9:06 PM
  • *

    "The best example is President Trump's payment of $31 million in 2005 because of the AMT. Were there no AMT he would have paid nothing. That's a tax cut for the rich."

    Lil' Siste

    You are privy to Trump's Tax Returns? How? I thought all you Leftists had your panties in a wad because he refused to release them.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 9:26 PM
  • "Why would anyone blame anyone else?" For the same reason your afraid you can't defend your idiocy.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 10:24 PM
  • *

    And where did that idiocy come from. Of course the shooter is solely to blame. Why would anyone blame anyone else?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 9:06 PM

    Common: Your two time loser Hillary blamed the shooting on the Republicans and the NRA.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 8:50 AM
  • *

    2016 Presidential Race

    Question: What Happened?

    Answer: Hillary Clinton!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 10:44 AM
  • We seem to have hit a new low in SO conservative childishness.

    No big shock there, but it's also becoming more apparent.

    All along I'd believed that the SO conservatives did recognize what was really going on in the nation and world, but were toeing the conservative party line to remain in the good graces of their little group.

    Unfortunately now I'm seeing more evidence that they have no clue as to what's happening. For example, Mr. VanGennip did not know that part of the President's tax form was leaked (possibly by him) and published.

    Another example, Mr. Bess does not seem to comprehend how eliminating the estate tax and alternative minimum tax, end up clearly being a tax break for the rich.

    And Mr. Schaefer doesn't seem to know who pulled the trigger in the Las Vegas shooting.

    Perhaps I've been giving them way too much credit.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 11:11 AM
  • *

    "For example, Mr. VanGennip did not know that part of the President's tax form was leaked (possibly by him) and published."

    Quite aware of it Lil' Sister. But, then why would a document that was promised absolute privacy by the United States Govt., then leaked by a Govt Employee with the morals of a common thief be considered accurate and not doctored as well?

    So far as your charges towards Mr. Bess and Mr. Schaefer.....

    Mr. Bess appears to understand the tax situation much better than you do.

    And your question to Mr. Schaefer was....

    And where did that idiocy come from. Of course the shooter is solely to blame. Why would anyone blame anyone else?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 9:06 PM

    His answer to you was dead on accurate. Hillary Clinton put that silly idocy into the picture!

    AND.... you Ulrich, was dumb enough to vote for her. Probably one of the three people in Scopus who did.😂😂😂😂😂

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 11:37 AM
  • Way too much credit...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 12:55 PM
  • *

    Sure Ulrich, it's the fault of Conservatives. Abortion was illegal when many people of your mindset were born because we opposed it.

    I suppose sometimes we are our own worst enemies.

    It's ok though, I will continue to fight it and donate to the Vitae Foundation.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM
  • The ideas of the left: https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/06/antifa-group-plans-nationwide-deface-col...

    The ideas of the right: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-proclaims-columbus-day-without-obamas-qualms-23...

    No intent to rile Rick S, just an observation.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 6, 2017, at 9:53 PM

    No offense taken , the Great Lands were here long before Columbus and his linear date of 1492 that's important to the New World invaders , I only use it as reference because all seem to know the date...

    Trump and ANIFA's involvement mean squat in the over all picture , really , they come and they go , the Great Lands will remain .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 1:59 PM
  • Increases the lower's tax rate -- I wasn't aware the lower was even paying taxes , they are receiving Government subsidies , not paying Government taxes . They are using spent taxes from the middle , not paying in to the middle or for everyone else .

    Haven't been , it got even worse beginning in 2008 . Rising Medicaid for the PPACA would be a good example , extended lay-off pay would be another...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 2:05 PM
  • Dump a few more millions in for Planned Parenthood ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 2:06 PM
  • Where's all the pay to the low coming from to get such high taxes deducted ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 2:07 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 11:37 AM

    Wheels: Thanks for your reply to "Common" for me. Girlfriend and I were at the St. Denis, Benton, MO. parish luncheon....chicken & dumplings, dressing, kettle beef, and all the trimmings and didn't see his crazy comments.

    *******

    The estate tax applies to estates of over $6 million or so. You may not, but I consider that "rich." Eliminating it is a tax cut for the rich.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 5:01 PM

    Common: Do you consider Farmers rich and in the 1%....sad to say that the Farmers are not rich until they die and then it's too late for them but not for their kids who should inherit the valuable land paid for by their parents without the Federal government getting any part of it. BTW, this also applies to a person who spent their entire life building whatever kind of empire (taxes paid in route) in order to pass it on to their kids tax free.

    Common: Do you just turn a deaf ear and put blinders on when anything that the Dems do that is just a false statement such as Hillary's about who is to be blame for the LV killings.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 4:08 PM
  • And those who have survived their entire from entitlements . Them , and their children they raised , the life costs from Government subsidies . Where would they fit into the grand scheme of things .

    As there is sunshine there is darkness .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 4:55 PM
  • 1 Farmer @ $6 million trying to help pay for and feed Urban areas of millions on subsidies . And where does the line of rich and poor get drawn ? Lines are drawn in the ground and wash away with the rains ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 5:00 PM
  • An estate tax on wealthy democrats yields 0.6% of total revenue collected per several sources.

    Traditionally in the U.S.the bulk of money wasted by the federal government was confiscated from the middle class working people due to the volume available. The recent dynamic ushered in by the left has divided the average responsible earners into middle class and poor people dependent on government wealth redistribution. I can't see anything in conservative tax reform as tax cuts for the rich and tax increase to the poor that don't pay taxes anyway. Statist "been there too long" wealthy politicians will support what keeps them in office with little regard to what's best for the people they represent.

    Me thinks someone needs to go back to his book on arguments and see if it starts with "Watch the MSNBC logo, you are getting sleepy, sleepy. now pretend you have wisdom and when you wake up you will be a sage".:)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 9:01 PM
  • *

    Methinks Ulrich is so overwelmed with Hillary's loss and the shape of the Democratic Party in general, he has turned into a quivering mass of hate, thinking of nothing but how he can hurl another insult at Conservatives.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 8, 2017, at 11:01 PM
  • *

    Wheels: Just look at the hateful groups that the Dependent Democrats support - BLM and Antifa - both hate groups. Also, look at the criminals that make up their voter base - the illegals from Mexico.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:23 AM
  • Australian Gun Law Update

    Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....

    From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia

    Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real

    figures from Down Under.

    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to

    surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own

    government, a program costing Australia taxpayers

    more than $500 million dollars.

    The first year results are now in:

    Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,

    Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;

    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

    In the state of Victoria.....

    lone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that

    while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not

    and criminals still possess their guns!)

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady

    decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.

    Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public

    safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.

    The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the

    hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note Americans, before it's too late!

    https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12075044_10207426402198903_1807147...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM
  • "...just a false statement such as Hillary's about who is to be blame for the LV killings."

    Blaming anyone but the killer is idiotic. If she said something different, it's still idiotic.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "Do you consider Farmers rich and in the 1%...."

    In the 1% no, but having a $6 million estate is rich. Maybe not compared to the SO conservatives, but it is compared to normal Americans. And the tax is only on the amount over $6 million, so if you have an estate of $8 million the tax is 40% of $2 million.

    In any case I believe that rather than eliminating it, family owned businesses and farms should be passed on tax free if the descendant plans to continue operating the farm or business, rather than selling it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM
  • I don't believe anything in America is "tax free" anymore except entitlements and Corporate earnings .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:35 AM
  • A company has to have a return on investments .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:37 AM
  • Normal Americans? What is a normal American?

    In any case I believe that rather than eliminating it, family owned businesses and farms should be passed on tax free if the descendant plans to continue operating the farm or business, rather than selling it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM

    So who's inheritance do you want to tax? Maybe the dry cleaner that legally immigrated here and has 40 stores now ran by his children and grandchildren and employing 4,000 people?

    Many times such a tax could force layoffs or partial sale to pay the tax.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:08 AM
  • *

    "And the tax is only on the amount over $6 million, so if you have an estate of $8 million the tax is 40% of $2 million."

    Why at 6 million....why not at 200 million.

    "In any case I believe that rather than eliminating it, family owned businesses and farms should be passed on tax free if the descendant plans to continue operating the farm or business, rather than selling it."

    At last we finally believe on something....but what if there are more than one that inherits the business or farms - back to my original comment....no tax of any kind from inheritance.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:10 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:08 AM

    You beat me to it Richard.

    Ulrich's solution to estate taxes, goes right along with tax simplification in the minds of a Leftist.

    Ulrich, will an HVAC business qualify for your exclusions?

    We all need exclusions because the Leftist nutcases will want everything over $1 to qualify for taxation before they are through with it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:27 AM
  • A company has to have a return on investments .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:37 AM

    The purpose of a company is to provide insurance and benefits to the employees and to pay fica and payroll taxes. After that they allowed to stay in business if they hire the right mix of people and pay them enough time not to work and also pay for their childcare. Of course no one should continue to work for the company without paying a union that they never voted to join. If it is a family owned company, the tax laws encourage incorporation so the government can tax profits. What is left for the owners should be donated to save the planet from themselves.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:07 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM

    It's obvious that the socialist / leftist mind cannot comprehend the significant different between "income" and "assets".

    No surprise - hence the broken record responses from him. You can't educate someone on a point when they don't even comprehend the basics. Wealth transfer of assets is NOT "income" to be taxed. The death tax is simply a government grab pure and simple.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:36 AM
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    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:36 AM

    Doug,

    Ulrich is tax and spend Leftist Democrat... no doubt about it.

    Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be most of us won't have a problem as it currently stands. But get a Leftist majority in Congress and watch that Exempt amount dwindle.

    Over 6 million is not exempt as Lettau states.... it is more like 5.34 million. But hey what is a few hundred thousand to a tax and spend Democrat.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 11:07 AM
  • *

    But get a Leftist majority in Congress and watch that Exempt amount dwindle.-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 11:07 AM

    We definitely saw the disastrous results of that for 2 years. They did enough damage in 2 years to double the US debt in Obama's term.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 12:36 PM
  • "....Real President Dedicated to US Interests..."

    Is this the same one that considers any and all criticism as being "fake news."

    That's of course his opinion, and he's welcome to it, as are the conservatives that hang on his every word as gospel.

    But what about the "missing news?"

    Where is the news of all those coal mines opening up?

    Where is the news of all those jobs brought back form China?

    One would think that as a minimum, it would be announced that all Trump and Ivanka products are now being made in the USA.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 3:19 PM
  • EPA is to announce a reversal of Obama's Clean Coal rule tomorrow.

    Of course anything positive will not be reported by the "get Trump" media especially the sources you follow.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 3:39 PM
  • Why would any companies want to buy dirty coal when natural gas is so cheap. The way to market coal is to make it less polluting, not more polluting.

    And when you find the "praise Trump" media, give us a link to it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 4:04 PM
  • *

    Why would any companies want to buy dirty coal when natural gas is so cheap.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 4:04 PM

    Then why would Obama even need to force this issue if it's all so good and rosy in your fake human caused climate change world?

    There's a question you can't answer. Companies don't decide to buy dirty coal because it's more expensive. So if there is a market for COAL (dirty is your word) then Obama didn't need to do anything. But he did. Once again he makes the kook-aid drinker a liar.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 4:39 PM
  • A company has to have a return on investments .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:37 AM

    The purpose of a company is to provide insurance and benefits to the employees and to pay fica and payroll taxes. After that they allowed to stay in business if they hire the right mix of people and pay them enough time not to work and also pay for their childcare. Of course no one should continue to work for the company without paying a union that they never voted to join. If it is a family owned company, the tax laws encourage incorporation so the government can tax profits. What is left for the owners should be donated to save the planet from themselves.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:07 AM

    By company , I mean one person , two People , or a Corporation , there has to be a return or profit . There has to be an investment too .

    In my opinion , the Corporate aren't investing all of their return and they aren't being taxed on all of their return either . The mom & pop are , they are the ones who need tax breaks . People who work for them and skilled Labor need tax breaks .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 6:00 PM
  • Why would any companies want to buy dirty coal when natural gas is so cheap. The way to market coal is to make it less polluting, not more polluting.

    And when you find the "praise Trump" media, give us a link to it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 4:04 PM

    China is currently building areas that are one half the size of a soccer field full of solar panels in their old coal regions daily . The country aims to boost the mix of non-fossil fuel generated power to 20 percent by 2030 from 11 percent today. China plans to plough 2.5 trillion yuan ($364 billion) into renewable power generation by 2020 . This hurts North Korea because coal is one of North Korea's biggest exports . It also remains to be seen what it will do with China's steel industry , I'm thinking steel is going obsolete personally ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 6:12 PM
  • - Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 6:00 PM

    Rick, I wrote that a bit tongue in cheek. Most corporations are mom and pop and are not traded on the stock market. Their profits are taxed as corporate profit once and then again as personal income of the shareholders, often middle class family seeking a return on investment.

    Lawmakers are largely lawyers and laws for lawyers spells the need for laws to protect from lawyers so mom and pop have to incorporate to protect themselves from gold digger liability claims.

    Elmar Fudd was right.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 7:29 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 7:29 PM

    Richard,

    Very true.

    One way of avoiding that method of taxation is to setup a "C" Corporation. The shortcoming of that type corporation is all profit must be paid out and taxed annually to the stockholders. This leaves nothing in the corporation to promote growth without borrowing.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:08 PM
  • 3 Card Monte...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:14 PM
  • Ralph, the more laws they pass for confiscation the more loop holes are created. It's an endless circle.

    Time to start fresh.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM
  • *

    Ralph, the more laws they pass for confiscation the more loop holes are created. It's an endless circle.

    Time to start fresh.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM

    Absolutely. How did you like Ulrich's solution for the Wealth Confiscation Tax aka Inheritance Tax as it relates to family farms.... complicate the maze some more and throw in some special circumstances for family farms.

    The inheritance tax at any level is the most onerous form of wealth confiscation out there. Everything in assets has been gained either through purchase with tax paid income or gains by appreciation in value. And appreciation in way too many cases is nothing but a phony increase created by inflation.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:48 PM
  • Bob Corker: White House is 'adult day care center' and Trump may start WWIII

    Corker has also said he could oppose moves by Trump and congressional Republicans to pass tax reform, a priority after the repeated failure of attempts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Corker has insisted that any changes to the tax code must reduce the deficit. Trump’s plan would probably increase it. Republicans hold a slim 52-48 majority in the Senate, making defections costly.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/08/bob-corker-white-house-adult-day...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:51 PM
  • Wheels

    I never did understand the Inheritance Tax .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:52 PM
  • *

    Wheels

    I never did understand the Inheritance Tax .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 8:52 PM

    Rick, It's called Legal Plunder, taken by those we gave the power to tax to maintain a government, and they have convoluted it to plunder the wealth of the country for way too many Unconstitutional and unnecessary causes.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:08 PM
  • Ralph, I'm reminded of the ordeal with the Roy Rogers estate, a lot of people lost jobs and that was based on California confiscation laws. Not sure if the move to Missouri worked out as I have not kept up with it.

    Rick, As I said before, it's hard to drain a swamp staring in the middle of the swamp. Trump might fool us all by cleaning out his own court jesters before starting on the clowns to the left.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 9:57 PM
  • make staring starting

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:00 PM
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    Richard

    A friend in another State who's Mother passed several years ago and left a real mess of her Estate. She had used a local attorney who could have pretty much protected her whole estate from taxes had he been a true estate attorney. To make a long story short. The assets had to be sold to pay the taxes which were about a million and a quarter and three heirs ended up with less than a million a piece. And when it was all said and done, the attorney who should have been sued for malpractice, presented them with a bill for another slightly over $100,000.00.

    Moral of the story......

    If you have more than two nickels to rub together and want to minimize taxes and leave to your heirs what should be 100% of your assets, but at least as much as possible, hire an attorney that specializes in Estate Planning.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:16 PM
  • I don't have two nickles that big but if I did, my nickels should be my nickles to leave to the dog pound in whole if I choose. Just my opinion.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 10:53 PM
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    Richard,

    A simple will, if that is all anybody needs should be drawn up by an attorney who specializes in such cases. The lawyer that collects bills today and defends a DWI tomorrow can be the most expensive guy in town to handle estate matters after the dust all settles.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 11:03 PM
  • I'm going to let the Sandman dust settle on me, been a long day. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 11:09 PM
  • Oh, and thank you Mr common for all your wisdom and education today.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 9, 2017, at 11:11 PM
  • Wheels

    I equate it to stealing from the dead or grave robbers .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:07 AM
  • JFK: "...ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

    Most Americans: "I'm proud of my country and want to give back in some way."

    SO contributor: Me too, as long as it does not involve me having to give up a penny, or serving in the military.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "Wealth transfer taxes have been part of the U.S. Federal tax system since 1797."

    And American has always been the land of real opportunity for all.

    Now some seem to think it should become the land of inherited opportunity.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:42 AM
  • *

    ""Wealth transfer taxes have been part of the U.S. Federal tax system since 1797.""

    How about you prove that with a link Ulrich. After some of the lies you post, I for one am not willing to take that for a fact.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:51 AM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:42 AM

    The quotation marks usually indicate someone else said it. If so, Who?

    If you are referring to the stamp act of that era, it was a charge or fee for recording the transfer of assets upon death and not intended as a means to prevent family dynasties that could lead to an aristocratic ruling elite or monarchy as today's progressives would like you to believe.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 9:19 AM
  • *

    "Wealth transfer taxes have been part of the U.S. Federal tax system since 1797."

    Common: You sure about this statement?

    "And American has always been the land of real opportunity for all. Now some seem to think it should become the land of inherited opportunity."

    Isn't inherited opportunity still real opportunity?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:42 AM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 9:25 AM
  • The only way to serve and give back to the country is give Inheritance tax or join the Military ?

    What ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM
  • You best find somebody besides John F. Kennedy to say your words ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM
  • So...if a person doesn't inherit anything and aren't eligible to join the military they can't or haven't gave back to their country..

    Nice....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:33 AM
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    SO contributor: Me too, as long as it does not involve me having to give up a penny, or serving in the military. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:42 AM

    This is why I have little respect for Lettau's "service". There are two kinds of veterans I have run across in my life.

    Those that served honorably, in tough combat situations and are to be respected and honored. You rarely here the REAL veterans throw their "service" around as a way to discredit others or as an advantage to be used over other Americans.

    Then you have the Lettau bunch. They use their service as something to attack those that didn't serve or put it out there as though they are entitled. No surprise coming from Lettau.

    I've met many WW2, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghan veterans. Many had been through hell. The real heros don't bring it up and don't walk around bragging with all the regalia hanging off them after 10, 20, 30 or 70 years. To them it was truly service and they deserve our thanks, gratitude and care for any physical or mental wounds they suffered.

    The big talkers and fake warriors? Nah. The number of true heros who served in direct combat is very, very small to the total number in the military. Some say as low as 1% of the total military or as high as 10% at most (depending on the war).

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:34 AM
  • *

    For the 999th time, Ulrich is ignoring me again.

    😕😎😂😂😂

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:45 AM
  • Ordinarily I would simply ignore you, since it’s so easy to look anything up, for most people, that is. Nevertheless, here’s a link, and it was a stamp tax on wills, which makes it an estate tax. This manner of tax has come and gone and changed forms many times over the past 220 years.

    http://www.heritage.org/taxes/report/estate-taxes-historical-perspective

    “In the United States, the tradition of taxing assets at death began with the Stamp Act of 1797. While the first Stamp Act on tea helped precipitate the Revolutionary War, the second was far less dramatic. Revenues from requiring a federal stamp on wills in probate were used to pay off debts incurred during the undeclared naval war with France in 1794.”

    The primary reason for a reply is to counter your customary and false accusation of lying, which always seems to follow a statement or fact that you disagree with. It appears that to you, anything you don’t like, don’t agree with or don’t understand, immediately becomes branded as a “lie.” This is not dissimilar to President Trump’s responding to anything he dislikes as “fake news” (and that is not a compliment.)

    I can safely say that nothing I have contributed is knowingly a lie. Just because you choose to interpret something as such, doesn’t concern me in the least. Your confusion, mistakes and misunderstanding are your problem not mine.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM
  • *

    Your confusion, mistakes and misunderstanding are your problem not mine. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM

    From they guy with who is confused the most and makes most the mistakes:

    Now with 3/4 of President Obama's term completed, the gang is already looking forward to 8 years of President Clinton.

    All of the "tilting at windmills" and 'witch hunting" and "making molehills out of anthills" and "oceans of tears" and "years of whining" and invented scandals" and "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" and "more gloom and doom that exists in hades" and "world-class paranoia," and the "multitude of chicken littles" and "more crying wolf than can be imagined" etc. etc. etc.

    ...you still have nothing.

    But you will have 8 more years to attack... Posted by commonsense matters (aka Commie Lettau) on Thu, Mar 5, 2015, at 2:35 PM

    ===

    We don't need your responses. They're predictable and predictably wrong.

    Now tell us how we have no right to speak because you served as a payroll clerk during the Vietnam war and some of us didn't.

    LOL.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:25 AM
  • Lettau, you can thank me later for telling you about the stamp act. Now you can twist the meaning behind the references in Biblical history to make your case for wealth confiscation of rich dead people.

    Oh, and what is your answer to the fake news that was proven fake?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:27 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:32 AM
  • A person doesn't have to give everything they own and possess to the Government to be an American .

    Honest.

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:33 AM
  • ...put down that cell phone and slowly back away dude...

    ****************

    Trump escalates feud with Corker

    President Donald Trump's public feud with a top Republican on Capitol Hill has entered the name-calling phase.

    The President, a politician whose mantra has long been to hit back harder than someone hits him, is now treating Corker like he did his primary opponents: By giving him a nickname.

    "The Failing @nytimes set Liddle' Bob Corker up by recording his conversation," Trump tweeted on Tuesday. "Was made to sound a fool, and that's what I am dealing with!"

    Trump labeling Corker "liddle" is a throwback to the 2016 campaign, when he gave Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, then a presidential candidate himself, the same moniker.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-escalates-feud-with-corker/ar-AAtfX...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:37 AM
  • *

    I can safely say that nothing I have contributed is knowingly a lie. Just because you choose to interpret something as such, doesn’t concern me in the least. Your confusion, mistakes and misunderstanding are your problem not mine.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM

    Ulrich,

    I will present this to refute the statement you made about not lying.....

    "SO contributor: Me too, as long as it does not involve me having to give up a penny, or serving in the military."

    Of course you may repost that wording posted by a SO contributer using his/her name to dispute that is a lie, if you can.

    Your link also appears to feel the legal plunder inheritance should be done away with if you read towards the end.

    Another link clearly calls it a wealth transfer tax. And the Stamp Tax which was to pay war debts always went away after those debts were paid, until the 20th century when it became the truly bastardized tax we have today. We certainly have not been using it to pay debts down.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 12:06 PM
  • The Hollywood Weinstein dude was charged with more sexual assaults today , he's the guy who gave $100,000s to Clinton , and Obama , campaigns . Neither one have said anything or gave any money back , no surprise there .

    But today , Hillary did make a formal statement , something like she was surprised and appalled by his behavior toward women . Now how precious is this -- what did Bill do to Monica while he was President ? And the Hillary fans just can't see her hypocrisy for what it is , they refuse to see her for what she is .

    Obama is no surprise , he won't say nothing either , he's got his money , he won't be doing anything to hurt his special "Legacy" , you can bet on that . And the Obamberal freaks will deny -- deny -- deny...watch and see..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • And why aren't the Global Warming crowd screaming about those wild fires in California , they're going to kill Mother Earth ! Wait , put a tax on wild fires , there's a tax on everything else .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 1:12 PM
  • *

    For Lettua's rich elitist NFL players...

    http://www.gocomics.com/mike-lester

    Funny. But true?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 2:05 PM
  • *

    Hmmm Ulrich quit ignoring me there for a minute, looks like he's back at it. I'm sure it's easier than defending the lie I pointed out.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 3:24 PM
  • NFL risks billions in publicly funded stadiums as millionaire players stage kneeling protests

    American taxpayers shelled out billions of dollars to build the stadiums that National Football League players are now using to stage their kneel-down protests of the national anthem.

    The players say they have a right to express their displeasure with racism in the U.S. with their protests, but lawmakers say the NFL could be risking its access to the public trough if the team owners don’t get a grip on the situation.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/28/nfl-players-protests-risk-stadiu...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 5:01 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 5:11 PM
  • If it on the internet, it has to be true. How gullible can one person be?

    "The Daily Deplorables," give me a break, who would believe that?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 6:56 PM
  • Common, The Muller investigation is an investigation looking for a crime to investigate. Things are still headed back to your "can do no wrong" idols and will bite them back as things unfold.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 7:36 PM
  • Someone lays claim to Clinton's own words and Mr Lettau immediately dismissed it. Pretty closed minded as he thinks anyone he disagrees with is just that. IMO that's the exact moment the old bat lost.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 8:23 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 6:56 PM

    Obama is no surprise , he won't say nothing either , he's got his money , he won't be doing anything to hurt his special "Legacy" , you can bet on that . And the Obamberal freaks will deny -- deny -- deny...watch and see..

    And here's one right on cue....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 8:58 PM
  • Supreme Court dismisses one travel ban case

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-drops-travel-ban-case/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 9:37 PM
  • A lot of the Hollywood top Stars are now accusing the Weinstein dude of sexual stuff , Hillary is calling him everything but deplorable . Barack finally had to say something , he's been black mailed -- errr , umm , People of color mailed -- because those Stars are now talking . The dude has already settled cases out of Court before , did Hillary and Barack know these things before they took his Campaign money . Will they give his money back , nah , they'd have to admit how much they accepted and when they accepted it too .

    Elmer Fudd all over again .

    It's too bad ,really , Barack could have pardoned him...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 10:52 PM
  • *

    Could one of you posters get Lettau to predict that Claire McCaskill will win the senate election next Fall? PLEASE!!!

    He's picked losers every time for the last 8 years. Someone bait him into predicting Claire will win. If he does, Hawley is a shoe-in.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 8:50 AM
  • Who knows, Democrats may end up draining their own swamp next fall. A lot can happen between now and then.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 9:00 AM
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    Ulrich,

    Here is something you can put down as a positive accomplishment of the Trump Administration.

    http://www.fixthisnation.com/conservative-breaking-news/trump-officially-guts-ob...

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 4:17 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 6:57 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 6:59 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 6:59 PM

    Rick: Looks like Obama's military till Trump got in and started to update and change the military for the better.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 8:22 PM
  • *

    I can't think of anything that Claire McCaskill has done during her Senate years for the benefit of Missourians so show her the door in 2018.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 8:25 PM
  • semo, Maybe the Missouri democrats will run someone else next time. I'm sure Letau thinks she is too far center since it's been a while since she praised Obama. Wouldn't it be a hoot to hear her play up to some of Trumps's ideas to keep her job?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 8:55 PM
  • *

    Clair has been running hard for about 6 months already.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM
  • Claire and about another 450 career politicians need to go...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 12:38 AM
  • "...and started to update and change the military for the better."

    What exactly has he done? Nothing has been funded, no budget has been passed. 99% of today's military members, equipment, etc. are the same as they were last year.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 6:49 AM
  • "...you can put down as a positive accomplishment of the Trump Administration."

    Why? First of all the Clean Power Plan is not in effect anyhow.

    Secondly, it has nothing to do with decreases in coal demand which was "fueled" by diminished exports, and by the availability of cleaned, cheaper natural gas.

    And the power plant owners look decades ahead and a "executive action" by President Trump can be easily reversed. They're not going to invest in new coal plants given the abundance of natural gas and the growth of solar, wind and renewable sources.

    The coal miners were blatantly lied to by candidate Trump when he claimed he was going to "open those mines." Their industry requires research into better, more efficient and cleaner ways to utilize America's abundant supply of coal.

    Your "positive accomplishment" is all talk and no action or results.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:08 AM
  • That's

    "...availability of cleaner, cheaper natural gas, which can be transported more quickly and more efficiently.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:11 AM
  • *

    And the power plant owners look decades ahead and a "executive action" by President Trump can be easily reversed.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:08 AM

    From the Queen of Obama-loving executive orders. Precious... your continual lies are all talk and no result.

    Using the alt-left definition of "coal miners" you can skinny the growth. They leave out jobs like "coal truck drivers" and "coal shippers", etc. etc. Notice how Lettau misleads.

    10's of thousands of jobs have been created since the 4th quarter of last year (after Trump was elected) in the coal INDUSTRY - mining, shipping, handling, etc.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:15 AM
  • So much for “…will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    Perhaps it’s a question of “ability.”

    “President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against the press Wednesday night in an interview with Fox News. After threatening to take NBC News off the air, Republican Senator Ben Sasse questioned whether the president is breaking his oath of office.

    “Network news has become so partisan, distorted and fake that licenses must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked. Not fair to public!” Trump tweeted, echoing statements he made earlier in the day before joining Fox News pundit Sean Hannity for an interview.

    “During the interview with Hannity Trump lit into the press. “Media is bad, they are really dishonest people. These are very, very dishonest people in many cases,” Trump said before acknowledging he knows journalists and that they’re not all bad.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-breaking-oath-office-095532215.html

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:48 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:48 AM

    Under Barack Hussein Obama:

    "FEC chair warns that conservative media like Drudge Report and Sean Hannity face regulation --- like PACs" by Paul Bedard | May 7, 2014, 12:00 AM

    Poor Commie Lettau. Misleading to those who won't be misled. Keep trying little man. Maybe Claire will win? LOL.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 7:56 AM
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    ""...you can put down as a positive accomplishment of the Trump Administration."

    Why? First of all the Clean Power Plan is not in effect anyhow.

    Secondly, it has nothing to do with decreases in coal demand which was "fueled" by diminished exports, and by the availability of cleaned, cheaper natural gas."

    Ulrich,

    First, it was an accomplushment, because it neutered Obama's vendetta against coal.

    Second, you are lying again.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:02 AM
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    “President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against the press Wednesday night in an interview with Fox News." 

    Perhaps you missed this Ulrich.

    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/817210?ns_mail_uid=8517129&ns_mail_job=...

    The media has given him little to love.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:10 AM
  • No lies at all, only in your imagination.

    "Pew: Trump Coverage Far More Negative Than Past Presidents"

    Think maybe that's because his performance has been far worse that any past President.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    Think maybe that's because his performance has been far worse that any past President.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:13 AM

    You didn’t read it did you Ulrich? The negative reporting began long before he was inaugurared.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:24 AM
  • No lies at all, only in your imagination.

    "Pew: Trump Coverage Far More Negative Than Past Presidents"

    Think maybe that's because his performance has been far worse that any past President.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:13 AM

    Polls are like food , everybody has their favorite . Trump is a direct product of Obama , deal with it..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:56 AM
  • Perhaps then it's because he was an extremely bad candidate.

    He had little concept of what he was doing, lied constantly, and mistreated others continually. Weren't you paying attention back then?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:56 AM
  • Attention is free and doesn't have to be paid .

    Anybody would have beat the Obama/Clinton agenda , I suppose the whole 2016 was lost on a lot of People , any campaign besides Obama/Clinton would have won because the American People wanted their Change back . Snap out of it .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:04 AM
  • *

    Perhaps then it's because he was an extremely bad candidate.

    He had little concept of what he was doing, lied constantly, and mistreated others continually. Weren't you paying attention back then?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:56 AM

    American voters seemed to prefer him over your candidate Ulrich. He was far superior to her.

    And if or not you want to believe it, things are improving in this country.

    The previous loser was taken horrible advantage of by Iran and was cowed by North Korea.

    America is finally regaining some respect in the world.

    We know you want him to fail.... but it's not happening and some more career politicians who think of only themselves may get an awakening next November when the voters cull some more of them out.... Democrats and Republicans.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:08 AM
  • So far , in my opinion , Trump is allowing Twitter to speak for him . All too often he hides behind his cell phone instead of standing up on his hind legs and facing People in person , aka Corker , etc , etc...he knows where Corker is , go talk to him..he knew where McConnell was too ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • ...and McCain...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:12 AM

    I suspect he will speak personally to them. But when they go public, with the dishonest media, his response will not be heard.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:43 AM
  • Trump's accomplishments are countered by bringing up and repeating the propaganda of the left. Funny how that works.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:11 AM
  • *

    He had little concept of what he was doing, lied constantly, and mistreated others continually. Weren't you paying attention back then? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:56 AM

    Yes we were. And he beat the h*** out of Hillary Clinton and Rick Lettau.

    Love him for that...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:47 AM
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    Poor Commie. In the news today:

    "Unemployment claims fall to lowest level in 43 years, despite hurricanes"

    Capitalism is awesome ain't it Commie Lettau? Socialism, marxism, communism are failed models. Maybe you should move to Venezuela?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:48 AM
  • I can't go along with Trump's "believe me and just me" fake news stuff , I have to decide for myself . Just because he says so , or any other politician far as that goes , doesn't work for me . There has to be better things to do besides argue phone tag on twitter with Hollywood , athletes , or anybody else that comes along too . Blaming the "Democrats" , or left , is almost like Obama blaming the "Republicans" , or right , where does the spin end .

    Just me , the dude's all over the road right now .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:57 AM
  • Poor Commie. In the news today:

    "Unemployment claims fall to lowest level in 43 years, despite hurricanes"

    Capitalism is awesome ain't it Commie Lettau? Socialism, marxism, communism are failed models. Maybe you should move to Venezuela?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:48 AM

    Then what's the need to cut taxes to create jobs .

    Cut taxes on corporate is fine but don't use that line . Cut taxes for the Middle first , start there and then go to Corporate , stop the song and dance about creating jobs .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:59 AM
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    Just my opinion, we need to start cutting welfare and get able bodied men and women off their *** and back on the workforce.

    And review the status of every American who has gone on the Disabled list in the past 10 or 15 years.

    When all that is cleaned up and ALL able bodied Americans under retirement age are on someone's payroll or, are gainfully self employed.... then we can let the pressure off trying to create more jobs.

    Better a couch sitting citizen be out here cutting grass with illegal aliens than drawing welfare.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:15 AM
  • If the unemployment is actually going down then People should be getting off their *** and working again .

    Get those dead beats off their *** , bring back those monthly commodities for starts , get People working on the infrastructure , they get entitlements , they fix the roads and such . Jobs are out there , there has to be a way to cross check the dead beats , it couldn't cost more then it costs to hand over money for them to sit around with benefits too . Cutting Corporate taxes won't make the dead beats get up and work .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:42 AM
  • Freakin' Obama and his Army of blind faith started handing out favors and benefits like Halloween candy , People can as make as much money -- with benefits -- as they can working entry level wages , where's the incentive ?

    It's hard as hell to take it away now too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:46 AM
  • *

    Cutting Corporate taxes won't make the dead beats get up and work .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:42 AM

    Rick, no it won't inspire the deadbeats, but hunger will.

    Our Corporate taxes are higher than most of the world. And guess what, the Corporations are only collecting them for the government. They are passed on to the consumers using their goods and services.... with a markup of course.

    The consumer pays it all or the Corporations would cease to exist.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:52 AM
  • *

    The consumer pays it all or the Corporations would cease to exist. -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:52 AM

    Exactly. The federal government doubled the excise tax on beer fro $9/barrel to $18/barrel in the 90's. Who do you think paid for that? Miller? Anheuser-Busch? Coors?

    If you drink beer, grab a mirror. You paid for it.

    In Commie Lettau's world money grows on trees. It's magical. You just print more. Who cares about $20 TRILLION in debt? We always pay the price...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 12:27 PM
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    Lowering Corporate taxes would allow American made goods to be more competitive with foreign made products both here and abroad.

    Would result in more exports and less imports, with the added benefit of more jobs for Americans.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 12:38 PM
  • People don't drink beer , they rent it . Beer might be cheaper to make then buy these days . It's kind of like cigarettes though , a personal thing , the folks who use it pay the taxes .

    I'm thinking if the Corporate taxes go down the prices won't go down in the same percentage , it seems like they don't with gas . Every time the price of gas goes up , goods go up to pay for transportation . When the price of gas goes down , goods don't . I'm thinking Corporate won't pass any cost savings on to the consumer but I could be wrong . Tax breaks to Corporate are okay , I'm just saying start off with the Middle first then work back to Corporate .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • *

    Rick, I think we need a complete overhaul of the tax structure. And it will not come out in the end as proposed. Will have to be some give and take. But people paying the most are going to save the most dollars, but not necessarily the highest percentage of savings.

    Those paying nothing should get exactly that..... NOTHING!

    So far as no savings to consumers on a Corporate Tax reduction. Perhaps not immediately but it will happen if government doesn't try to manage it and lets the Corporations butt heads to sell product. Competition has a way of getting the price down so that only a sustainable profit is made for growth and a ROI for stockholders.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:14 PM
  • Most of "corporate" is middle class. Most shareholders of most corporations are not of top end wealth. If you have any kind of retirement or long term investment you probably are part of a corporation in some way.

    Lowering the tax rate on profits before they are taxed a second time as income will encourage more wealthy people to shift money from wealth parking investments into working capital investments.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:26 PM
  • Would that be equal to spending retire money now or taking the chance of losing retirement money , like a 401K or CD .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:32 PM
  • How do I get "corporate" ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:33 PM
  • I guess I'm mixfused .

    The USA has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world and it's corporate is the Middle , other Nations are Socialist so their Middle would have lower taxes . Who is paying for the other Nations Socialism .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:42 PM
  • *

    How do I get "corporate" ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:33 PM

    Buy some stock in a company. Chances are if you have a retirement account you already are part of a corporation because your money is invested in stocks.

    However, be careful and only invest what you can afford to lose. Not all stocks are a good deal.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 1:53 PM
  • Who gets my money if I lose .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 2:39 PM
  • *

    Whoever buys the stock for less than you paid for it when you sell.

    Don't ask me for stock advice, I have bought a few good ones, but there are some I believe I caused to go into bankruptcy by just buying their stock.

    I did better when I invested in my own business or bought real estate. Something I at least knew something about.

    Fortunes have been made snd lost in the stock market.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 2:46 PM
  • Rand Paul is saying he thinks folks in the range of $50,000 to $300,000 should not lose deductions and he's fighting Trump on it , this is his definition of Middle .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 3:30 PM
  • Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 3:30 PM

    Rick in some of the democrat run states wages are higher but taxes are so high the middle among them end up with less so the deduction for state and local taxes keeps them able to live a little better than paycheck to paycheck. That is what Planet Rand objects to.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 6:01 PM
  • According to CelebrityNetWorth.com, Obama has a net worth of $12.2 million and First Lady Michelle Obama is not far behind with a net worth of $11.8 million. This was as he left office with a 17.8% tax rate imposed.

    Maybe some sage can explain that to me.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 9:56 PM
  • Not bad for a community organizer who became President that was a champion for the poor and needy -- talk about a Fundamental Change -- I see who got a change in their life and it sure wasn't the American Peoples .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:26 PM
  • Millions are devoted to him too !!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:27 PM
  • Speaking of taxes and revenue , who will pay for the hurricanes and California going up in smoke . It won't be Ford of GM or GE or the Insurance Industry . It will be the Middle .

    It's a damned good thing Obama gave Iran that airplane loaded with money , ain't it ? That money couldn't be used right now in the States , could it ? Millions just love him too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:31 PM
  • How long until the vultures fly into the disaster zones with laundered off shore money making offers for land?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 10:46 PM
  • The price of wine has just gone up and California's Medical Marijuana Project has gone up in smoke , as it were ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM
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    In the news today, more evidence of the "global warming" hoax. Penguin chicks in Antartica - 40,000 - all died. Why? TOO MUCH sea ice...

    ===

    "Scientists found thousands of dead or unhatched chicks in East Antarctica, which has been attributed to an unusual amount of sea ice... the increase in sea ice is negatively impacting the species, and noted that “optimum sea-ice cover” is needed to “thrive.”

    ===

    Where is Lefty Lettau and his prognostications on the future? You know, about the melting ice, global warming and democrat victories?

    I hope someone else in his household does the planning and check book balancing.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 7:35 AM
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    "Where is Lefty Lettau and his prognostications on the future?"

    Doug

    If things keep getting darker for the Democrats he may just fade into the sunset along with the other famous hacks we have know....

    Theorist - Apparently embarrassed to expose her real name.

    Left Turn - Also went dark when real names became fashionable.

    Sneller - Appears to have lost his way while driving through Ferguson.

    Perhaps Ulrich is busy jetting in and out of L & M International surveying the hurricane ravaged estimating how much asphalt it will take to repair the infrastructure.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:18 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:18 AM

    Lettau may be out at night in Scopus working hard as a one-man Antifa protester. :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:57 AM
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    The Leftists are too embarrassed to come on S.O. with their true names listed - guess their cause is not that important.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 9:02 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:57 AM

    Or busy Snipe Hunting with some of the natives.

    Takes concentration holding that bag all night.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 9:21 AM
  • Today is October 13th .

    On October 13th , 1307 , the Knights Templar disappeared forever . Those who are Christian -- Trump being President and all -- this may not be a good omen for the US of A .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 4:21 PM
  • Medicare increase for 2018 is set at 2% .

    Current Central Bank , or Federal Reserve interest rate , is up .06% .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 5:35 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 5:35 PM

    Rick: Think you meant Social Security increase. The Medicare amount is to be announced later this year.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 6:24 PM
  • Yup , right you are , my bad

    ...............

    Social Security checks to rise 2 percent in 2018, the biggest increase in years

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-social-security-checks-increase-201710...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 6:34 PM
  • In April 2015 President Obama signed the Medicare Access and CHIP Re-authorization Act of 2015. This will mean higher Medicare premiums for people 65 and over starting with the 2018 Medicare year. The open enrollment period will be as far as we know October 15 to November 7 2017. If you will be 65 in 2018 you will need to plan ahead to minimize your 2018 Medicare premiums which will be quite a bit higher than the premiums people age 65 and over pay today.

    Higher Income Earners Might Face Steep Hikes in 2018 Medicare Premiums

    Medicare officials estimate as much as 22% increase in 2018 Medicare Part B costs for wealthier beneficiaries.

    http://www.medicare2018.us/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 6:37 PM
  • How come all the loudest democrats in congress are siding with Iran?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 7:15 PM
  • -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 7:58 PM
  • *

    Looks like if you don't make over $85,000 you don't get hit by Obama's love:

    Except from the link at the bottom:

    Does MACRA Increase Medicare Costs?

    Just like it was before the new law, higher income Seniors pay higher premiums for Part B and Part D. For most other Medicare recipients, the government pays about 75% of the premium and the beneficiary pays 25%. The amount seniors pay is based on modified adjusted gross income (MAGI). Starting in January 2018, new income limits take effect that will subject some Medicare beneficiaries to higher income-related premium adjustments. Below are the percentage of premiums that seniors will pay under the changes.

    Current MAGI limits

    Premium percentage

    MAGI limits beginning in 2018

    Premium percentage

    Less than or equal to $85,000*

    25%

    Less than or equal to $85,000*

    25%

    Greater than $85,000 and less than or equal to $107,000*

    35%

    Greater than $85,000 and less than or equal to $107,000*

    35%

    Greater than $107,000 and less than or equal to $160,000*

    50%

    Greater than $107,000 and less than or equal to $133,500*

    50%

    Greater than $160,000 and less than or equal to $214,000*

    65%

    Greater than $133,500 and less than or equal to $160,000*

    65%

    Greater than $214,000*

    80%

    Greater than $160,000*

    80%

    *Limits for married couples are twice the limits listed here. Starting in 2020, all income thresholds will be updated (indexed) annually for inflation.

    https://obamacarefacts.com/doc-fix-medicare-access-and-chip-reauthorization-act-...

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:15 PM
  • Don't matter, Pelosi says Trump is savataging Obamacare and we will all lose our insurance except the rich people like her.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:52 PM
  • Iran already has it's money -- thnx Obama !! -- probably has the nukes done too , I'm not sure what point Trump's trying to make other then "look what I did !" .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM
  • Give Congress the same Health Care as the public , lets see how quick it gets changed and fixed . I bet Bernie shuts the hell up

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 9:17 PM
  • *

    I'm surprised Ulrich hasn't weighed in on Trump's accomplishments of the day.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 9:21 PM
  • *

    Wheels: Common is in denial.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 10:07 PM
  • Trump has done nothing but return a few things of Obama that were unconstitutional back to congress where they should have been decided.

    Sure is hard not to think Obama was on the side of the 'Death to America' regime all along, "The sweetest sound" and all.

    Trump is chipping away and as I said, it will take time to drain the swamp when he has to start in the middle part of the swamp where the sewer collects.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 10:16 PM
  • Yeah , Obama got Iran totally wrong , he when over the line on that one by making the USA call all by himself . A huge waste of money with no guarantees Iran couldn't continue to develop missiles , just nukes .

    The thing with Trump , all of the other Nations and UN who thought it might be a good idea dis-agree with Trump and want no part of Trump's actions . But Trump wants backing from those same Nations on his North Korea Sanctions . I'm not sure how it's going to work , he's ignoring one but wanting the other . His pick for Secretary of State , Defense , Congress , and Chief of Staff advised against his action too .

    The bottom line , Iran already stole the money from Obama and they're going to do what ever they want to do no matter what anybody says , Trump , the UN , or anybody else . Iran also has a key ally in Russia . What's Russia's incentive to help pull in North Korea now ?

    It just seems to me this is all about Trump and nothing else , I guess time will tell . Just the opinion of an Independent is all ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 12:40 AM
  • Trump is chipping away and as I said, it will take time to drain the swamp when he has to start in the middle part of the swamp where the sewer collects.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 10:16 PM

    I'm not convinced just yet if Trump knows where the middle is , I'm thinking he's trying to find the top or bottom .

    I also don't believe he's concerned with the (R) or the (D) , he's more a (T) --- either Twitter or Trump -- but that's just me . And , supposingly , everything is "fake news" except what he says , I have to decide for myself , whether it be Trump , Obama , or anyone else ..this is Missouri , the Show Me State

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 12:49 AM
  • *

    It sure is good to have a Commander-In-Chief and not a Crawdad-In-Chief.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 7:42 AM
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    Even with this being fake, it's funny:

    During a recent press conference, a

    reporter with MSNBC hollered from the press corps,

    "Where is President Trump hiding his tax

    returns?" Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee

    Sanders, astutely responded, "We've found a very

    secure place and I'm certain they won't be

    found." "And just where is

    that?", said the reporter,

    sarcastically. Mrs. Sanders grinned sardonically

    and said, "They are underneath Obama's college

    records, his passport application, his immigration status as

    a student, his funding sources to pay for college, his

    college records, and his Selective Service

    registration.

     

    "Next

    question?"

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 8:06 AM
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    Trump keeps going we won't even remember Obama was here. He can go back to the land of his Father.... and stay there. I won't miss him.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 8:36 AM
  • Trump sent the issue to Congress as it should have been from the get go . The money is already gone , he can't get that back . Iran is going to do what Iran is going to do anyway unless the USA plans on attacking Iran .

    Nobody can do any worse then Obama on Foreign Policy . Nobody .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 8:52 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 8:36 AM

    Wheels: The only thing that history will record for Obama's terms in office is: First half black President and first President to put a man in a women's restroom.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 9:19 AM
  • Obama's "Legacy" :

    Exception to the Rule became the Rule . Any or all Special Interest Group need their cause as Rule , call the White House , an Executive Order or Directive would soon follow .

    Every time the man left the USA he was sent home with his tail between his legs . Every time . When he attempted to get involved from the White House , it was like a 5 year old playing with a shot gun . Now it's damage control .

    It will take years to fix the damage Obama did to the USA ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 9:29 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 9:19 AM

    Too bad Theorist didn't have the courage to pursue her own convictions, she would straighten your butt out. 😎😊

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:16 AM
  • *

    It will take years to fix the damage Obama did to the USA ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 9:29 AM

    I agree, but there are some grousing because Trump has not already done so.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:17 AM
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    Soooo! Where has Sneller crawled off to? Haven't seen him crying on here for awhile.

    Myself I have been busy but try to catch up when I get a chance.

    Hope all is well in SO land!

    -- Posted by Karen Jones on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 12:29 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Karen Jones on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 12:29 PM

    Sneller appears to have gone AWOL!

    Maybe we weren't paying enough and he sold his "Superior Knowledge" to the highest bidder. Maybe the Russians.😕

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 12:46 PM
  • I agree, but there are some grousing because Trump has not already done so.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:17 AM

    A couple of things I've noticed with Trump , he tends to kick the can down the road . For instance , the Wall and Mexico , his promise has been turned over to Congress and the Budget . If he was the Commander-in-Chief and won't back down from anyone as advertised , that Wall would be under construction as promised . Also , the Dreamers . He made a promise but as soon as the protests started he says okay , he'd give it 6 months and then hand his promise over to Congress . Now he's done the same thing with Iran , turned his promise over to Congress .

    He also promised to drain the swamp , other then Comey I'm not sure who's gone besides the People he's picked himself and replaced , but maybe it's just me .

    Everything is fake news if it's not on his twitter , I'm not so sure if this is a good thing . Twitter can be edited and/or erased just like any other mass media . Is Twitter and it's controllers running the Country or Trump .

    He said he was going to stop China and it's trade rip off of currency manipulations . I don't remember any actions toward this as yet , maybe it's too soon , I don't know .

    He's getting like Obama too , blaming stuff on somebody else except he's using the "Democrats" and his supporters are following his lead . Now he's throwing some "Republicans" in too . Just me , it seems like a Commander-in-Chief would step up to the plate without finger pointing .

    Apparently he likes winning which may not be a bad thing but maybe his priorities aren't good right now . He'll tweet with whoever until he gets the last word , maybe he should like to win with more important issues such as infrastructure , the $20 trillion , stopping health care from being a Federal Mandated Law instead of just changing it's existing rules ...and stop the personal vendettas he has with People in the public spot light ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 2:00 PM
  • Republican Senator Corker blasts Trump for 'castrating' Tillerson

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Republican Senator Bob Corker stepped up his public feud with Donald Trump on Friday, saying the U.S. president’s undermining of his top diplomat was like castrating him in public.

    Corker told the Washington Post in an interview that Trump had undercut Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s efforts to enlist China in reining in North Korea’s nuclear program by denigrating the diplomat.

    “You cannot publicly castrate your own secretary of state” without limiting the options for dealing with North Korea, Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, told the Post.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-corker/republican-senator-corker-bl...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 2:17 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 2:17 PM

    The way I understand this is that the SoS said they were trying to talk to N Korea but it had no interest in talking. Trump was just reinforcing what Tillerson said and along comes Corker Who should stick to his senate work. He gives no indication he doesn't agree with what Tillerson is doing per Trump's instruction but seems to think he needs to get his press time.

    Comes down to too many that wanted to be news reporters to 'make a difference' instead of reporting.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 3:28 PM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:16 AM

    Wheels: Theorist's favorite holiday is coming up soon.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 8:50 PM
  • R. W. Bess

    I only post that as an example of what a waste of time the petty public feuds can be . I'll bet a dollar against a donut Trump will respond , not because he's right or wrong , just to have the last word . There are so many other issues that need attention , in my opinion . Corker is on his way out , let him fade away into the sunset .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 9:00 PM
  • I think Trump should have got a few long time democrat and republican senators to take cabinet positions and then fired them after a couple of months. Could have drained the senate of a few idiots right off.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 PM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 PM

    I had a list in mind immediately with John McCain right up there vying for top spot.

    Yes, he could have called them the "Dirty Dozen". Six Democrats and Six Republicans.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 8:33 AM
  • R. W. Bess

    Now that's a damned good idea right there

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 8:40 AM
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    OJ, I totally agree with Rick S. that is an awesome idea!!

    Wonder how we could get that idea to the man who could put it to good use? 😂😂

    -- Posted by Karen Jones on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 3:38 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:56 AM

    Wheels: This was Common's last comment - do you think we need to get a photo of him to put on a milk carton? Mic2 must have gotten a full time job of a professional protester in BLM or Antifa paid by Soros.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 7:34 PM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 7:34 PM

    Semo471,

    Don't think it is necessary just yet. Thursday or Friday he disagreed with me on a post I made on an OP/ED article.

    So it may be premature to move on that just yet.

    Being the caring person you are, would you chair that committee? ;-)

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 7:52 PM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 7:52 PM

    Wheels: Will do....first I'll start looking for a photo of the backside of Obama - probably find Common there.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 9:56 PM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 9:56 PM

    Good choice, I was confident you could handle the job.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 15, 2017, at 10:29 PM
  • Since no one seems to be posting much I will share a few observations not pertaining to the thread subject.

    No matter which cable news channel it seems to me a lot more news people interviewing each other than news. Today they all reported on what the other news programs reported on.

    KFVS TV asks people where they get their local news and of course everyone praises KFVS TV. Kind of like so many polls reported on.

    I saw a press conference with California democrats about something with the usual representation of agreeing folks standing quietly behind the talkers. Was wondering about the guy in the orange jumpsuit untill I learned he was the governor in the state of fruits and nuts. Everyone is talking about who other than the shooter will be blamed for the LV murders and I remember an overseas company that built machines to bale the underbrush tender that fuels the fires out there. The people could have had all that stuff turned into exotic snake bedding or something useful but rejected the idea that might disturb some critter. Just a couple of thoughts while waiting for you know who to defend the former first lady's wisdom e

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 12:39 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 10:11 AM
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    I saw that news on Bowe Bergdahl as well. No wonder Commie Lettau is hiding.

    He defended the illegal Obama transfer of $150 BILLION in taxpayer money that he had converted to Euros and Swiss Francs for the Iranians (all foreign currency). Gotta take care of those Muslim nukes.

    And he also constantly defended Obama's trade of 5 top terrorists for the traitor Bergdahl. Who deserted his post, collaborated with the enemy and caused lives to be lost searching for him.

    And Lettau says he "served"? I think he only served himself.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 10:44 AM
  • Don't forget what/who Obama traded for Bergdog.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 10:59 AM
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    Another one of Lettau and Sneller's fellow democrat "dreamers" murders someone in the US yesterday.

    ===

    "A man accused of killing a South Carolina high school student had been protected from deportation under the DACA program, U.S. officials confirmed to Fox News Thursday evening.

    Daniel De Jesus Rangel-Sherrer, 19, is accused of murder, kidnapping and possession of a weapon during a violent crime in connection with the death of 18-year-old Diana Martinez-Gonzalez."

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 11:26 AM
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    Is it time to declare SEMO cleared of Leftist Nutcases?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 2:06 PM
  • The question alone is meaningless as there have never been any. Furthermore, if left to their own devices and without help, the SO conservatives would continue to believe only Limbaugh and Hannity, and ignore the reality of what the current administration is actually doing.

    Good example…

    Throughout the campaign and for about 6 years beforehand, the President and his minions claimed the ACA was going to “self-destruct” any day, month or year now. But it has not, so President Trump is doing his best to destroy it, disregarding the fact that about 70% of ACA beneficiaries are in so-called “Trump” states. And he’s deluding himself when he believes that the nation will blame everything like increasing prices on democrats when he’s personally the cause.

    Another example…

    President Trump is drawing his “red line” with no “nukes” for North Korea, and he’s doing nothing about it except talk because he can't. And now he’s even affected the SecState who says we will keep talking until the first bomb drops. Who is taking responsibility for the possibility of several million South Koreans and US military around Seoul being sacrificed? It’s time for zero “bombast” and let Secretary Tillerson negotiate with the Chinese and North Koreans. They are not going to make any unprovoked first strike against our allies of the US.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM

    Common: Welcome back from rehab - tough going thru Obama/Hillary withdrawal.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:51 PM
  • Trump declares Obamacare 'dead,' urges Democratic help for short-term fix

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday declared Obamacare “dead” and “gone,” but urged Republicans and Democrats in Congress to craft a short-term fix of healthcare markets under the 7-year-old law that critics say he has effectively sabotaged.

    “It’s dead. It’s gone. It’s no longer - you shouldn’t even mention. It’s gone,” Trump said of former Democratic President Barack Obama’s signature 2010 healthcare law that Republicans have repeatedly tried and failed to repeal.

    Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said: “I think we’ll have a short-term fix with Republicans and Democrats getting together.”

    Trump also said he would work to lower prescription drug prices, which he said were “out of control.” He did not provide details.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-trump/trump-declares-obamacare...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:57 PM
  • President Trump is drawing his “red line” with no “nukes” for North Korea, and he’s doing nothing about it except talk because he can't. And now he’s even affected the SecState who says we will keep talking until the first bomb drops. Who is taking responsibility for the possibility of several million South Koreans and US military around Seoul being sacrificed? It’s time for zero “bombast” and let Secretary Tillerson negotiate with the Chinese and North Koreans. They are not going to make any unprovoked first strike against our allies of the US.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM

    Just curious , how did that "Obama North Korea Red Line" work out for you . The last time Obama was in China he couldn't even get off Air Force One . I don't believe issues can get any worse , actually , the Peoples voted to get rid of these sorts of crap , no ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:00 PM
  • Hey Trump

    It's not dead and gone , it's still a Federal Mandated Law .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:03 PM
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    Don't pay the ransom, he's back!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:36 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:36 PM

    Ulrich,

    You forgot to mention those payments made by a Obama were unconstitutional.

    Obama should be imprisoned for stealing from the taxpsyers.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:38 PM
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    Wheels: Common has been to the DNC talking points boot camp paid for by George Soros so there should be plenty of BS spouting from Common in the days to come.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:49 PM
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    Semo471

    He didn't appear to be running short of BS before he took leave.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:53 PM
  • Hillary is playing Monday Morning Quarterback on North Korea now , she's saying how Trump is doing it all wrong .

    Guess what Hillary , if People wanted or cared what you said , you'd be sitting in the White House right now , wouldn't you . Do like Obama , shut up and go away .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:55 PM
  • https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/russian-

    Long read for low info cry babies that believe all the 30 second sound bytes but explains a lot.

    I'm sure common will skip over it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 9:04 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 7:55 PM

    Rick: Why didn't Hillary and Obama do something about NK when they had the chance and not doing today the Monday quarterbacking.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 9:23 PM
  • And don't forget this: "This U.S.-North Korean agreement will help to achieve a long-standing and vital American objective: an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula." -President Bill Clinton

    Democrats gave the technology to NK for nuclear power generation and the American Tax payers helped finance it through Wall Street bankers that helped Clinton confront that Republican Juggernaut of campaign money along with some Algore monks and state dept/commerce dept changes.

    Like Ralph said earlier the past policies of same-o sam=o of paste administrations has got us to where we are now. Trump is not the same-o same-o.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 10:01 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:26 AM
  • "Long [response] for low info, [SO conservative] cry babies..."

    Why would I not read it? Keep in mind though, that Hillsdale “College” is a hotbed of limbaughism, which is also blindingly obvious.

    Not having time to fix them all, here are a few corrections…

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “We keep being told that President Trump is not normal. This much has been blindingly obvious.”

    That part is definitely true, as he’s first of all a narcissistic egomaniac, whose primary concern is himself.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “Trump replied: “It is always a great honor to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond.”

    He is talking about Putin, who is in fact a murdering dictator.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “The Russian collusion story involves a lot of details..”

    Most were unmentioned in Ms. Hemingway’s opinion piece. In addition to his “bro-mance” with Putin, President Trump’s early, private meeting was with the Russian ambassador to the US and the Russian foreign minister in the Oval office. Also, in reference to the July meeting, Trump’s son was expressly “over-joyed” to get “dirt” on Hillary and asked for it to be sent later. Whether they got anything or not, does not change the intent for “colluding” to happen.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “However, Trump said it was also because Comey was playing games with the Russia investigation.”

    As in getting too close. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “(Trump would famously appropriate the term “fake news” to describe reports from the mainstream media he found unfair.)“

    Except that his definition of “unfair” describes anything non-complimentary to him, even if it’s true.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “View two is that Russia was probably involved in the hacking and releasing of emails from the DNC and John Podesta. Some Trump associates had ties to Russia, but there is no evidence of Trump or his campaign colluding with Russia.”

    Except it’s not over yet, and there is evidence of abnormal contacts yet to be adequately “explained.”

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “Trump’s presidency has been marked by a bombing of Russia-backed Syria, bombing of the Russia-aligned Taliban in Afghanistan…”

    The “attack” on Syria did not destroy any chemical weapons, blew clods of dirt around, and he warned the Russians in advance.

    The Taliban are hardly “Russia-aligned” as they are the force that drove Russians out of Afghanistan.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…support for the expansion of NATO…”

    On the contrary, President Trump has successfully undermined NATO confidence in the US, and has cast doubt on our adherence to Article 5.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “….and opposition to the Russian-negotiated Iran nuclear deal.”

    The “deal” was a 6 party negotiation and effort, and all President Trump has done now is to weaken and subvert the word of the US in international affairs.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “….the self-styled anti-Trump “resistance” …

    …remains a figment of his imagination and that of SO conservatives.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:03 AM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 9:04 PM

    Saved that one for this morning. Some very good reporting.

    In a nutshell, Trump single handed has the Mainstream Press and the Democratic Party surrounded. They need to surrender, sign a truce and get on with life.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:03 AM
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    "That part is definitely true, as he’s first of all a narcissistic egomaniac, whose primary concern is himself."

    Ulrich,

    You have your wires crossed here. That was the description given to Barack Hussein Obama, our first Muslim President.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:09 AM
  • “…going thru Obama/Hillary withdrawal.” That’s meaningless.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “He did not provide details.”

    Now there’s the gist and essence of all of the President’s “promises.”

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…that "Obama North Korea Red Line" work out…”

    There never was one. He did the same thing that President Trump is doing without the bluster and name-calling.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…[President] Obama do something about NK when they had the chance…”

    Exactly what do you feel he should have done?

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…gave the technology to NK for nuclear power generation…”

    They had all the technology they needed from China and Russia.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “Trump is not the same-o same-o.”

    That’s the problem, not the solution. What do you feel he should do?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:20 AM
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    Ulrich,

    It is easy to see that you are becoming more distressed as times goes on by your loss at the polls last November 8th. (A day that will go down in history)

    As Ann Landers would say....

    "Seek Counseling"

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:28 AM
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    Wheels: What did I tell about Common getting a refill of BS from his rehab session with the DNC.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 9:13 AM
  • "Why would I not read it? Keep in mind though, that Hillsdale “College” is a hotbed of limbaughism"

    So you think your imaginary Limbaughism goes back to 1844 when it was the first American college to prohibit in its charter any discrimination based on race, religion, or sex, and became an early force for the abolition of slavery?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 9:55 AM
  • I would respond to all your imaginary claims, common, but I don't have time to fix ignorance gone to seed when it has snuffed out all light like cudzu vines in a hedgerow.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:01 AM
  • What it did in 1844 is well and good.

    I'm just referring to today's version.

    As for the facts I've given you, which, if any do you disagree with?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:21 AM
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    That part is definitely true, as he’s first of all a narcissistic egomaniac, whose primary concern is himself.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:03 AM

    "President Obama made it all about himself in a speech to youth in India this week. Watch Obama refer to himself a whopping 118 times in the 4 minute video below." - http://thepoliticalinsider.com/how-many-times-can-president-obama-refer-to-himse...

    Narcissistic. The very definition...

    ===

    "He is talking about Putin, who is in fact a murdering dictator." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 8:03 AM

    "Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility after the election" - Barack Hussein Obama

    And, of course, Hillary's famed "Russian Reset" button. You sucked that up like a vacuum cleaner. You have no credibility on Russia. Neither do your failed democrats.

    ===

    Many more instances. I suspect Lettau hasn't posted as he's busy watching football 24/7 to help get the ratings up and support the anti-military, anti-American players that take a knee.

    Some "veteran" he is...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:27 AM
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    And this news just released - pretty damming of Lettau and his socialist party.

    ===

    "The FBI had evidence as early as 2009 that Russian operatives used bribes, kickbacks and other dirty tactics to expand Moscow’s atomic energy footprint in the U.S. – but the Obama administration approved a controversial uranium deal benefiting Moscow anyway, according to an explosive new report.

    Revisiting allegations from the 2016 campaign, the report in The Hill noted that Bill Clinton and his family foundation got millions from figures tied to the uranium company while Hillary Clinton led the State Department and served on a panel that helped seal the deal. But the report also says evidence indicates Russian nuclear officials “routed” millions of dollars to the U.S. to benefit Bill Clinton’s foundation, while citing new allegations about a Russian plot that preceded that deal."

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:34 AM
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    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:34 AM

    Want to bet on if or not the Special Prosecutor ignores this information. After all his assignment is "Get Trump before Trump gets Washington Politicians"!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 11:17 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 11:17 AM

    That's the truth. Mueller, as a big dem donor and supporter, has no interest in the truth or nailing Hillary and Obama.

    Two Russian loving collaborators who got rich with Russian collusion.

    Commie Lettau is looking bad again. No wonder he hides more and more.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 11:55 AM
  • That big Russian collusion thing is coming back to bite the ones that made it up. Muller is down to investigating a crime that never happened and has turned to looking for intent. All that comes out is more collusion of the Clintons with Russia to buy her coronation.

    Lettau never disappoints as being predictable. Notice he continues to write meaningless word salads and then ask with which of his self-proclaimed facts you disagree.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 12:00 PM
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    Could this be a photo of Commie Lettau when he was serving? I may have found it!

    http://cdn.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/DKhOjvpW4AEw3W1-600x450.jpg

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 12:16 PM
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    OJ: Wouldn't it be Karma when Muller and his Democratic associates finds that the Russian collusion is between the Clintons and the Russians....just maybe the Left will accept that Trump rightfully won the election.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 3:24 PM
  • Of course he "rightfully" won the election through the electoral college. He did lose the popular vote, and only won electors in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin by the slimmest of margins.

    All that means is he won with no mandate, and he'd be best off to stop playing games and get the non-fanatics in the center to work with him.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:02 PM
  • President Trump...

    "...and I'm not going to 'blame' myself..."

    No surprise there, where does the "buck stop."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:11 PM
  • Tell us oh sage, what makes you think the president has no mandate and did this mandate you think is important give your idol Obama a pass to lie to people and end-round the constitution. Ole Bernie is using your talking points on the senate floor as I type. Go bow in front of the TV and listen to him blame Koch Bros for the millions that are going to die because Trump is going to take away SS and Medicare.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:39 PM
  • What makes you think he has a "mandate?"

    A mandate is an overwhelming victory, not a popular vote loss.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:46 PM
  • Again , not dead and gone , more kicking the can done the road...

    ...............

    Senators reach bipartisan deal to restore Obamacare payments

    WASHINGTON — Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., and Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., on Tuesday announced a deal to stabilize Obamacare markets that the president has tentatively blessed. Republicans are selling the plan as a stopgap measure to stabilize individual markets for two years as they muster the votes to repeal and replace the law entirely.

    The deal would restore billions of dollars in cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers that the president announced last week he would no longer make, prompting concerns of steep premium hikes in the individual markets.

    It would also allow states to sell stripped-down “catastrophic” or copper plans to anyone, not just people under 30 as allowed under current law, according to Alexander. The deal would allow “many more states” to qualify for waivers that give them some flexibility in what plans they sell on their exchanges, though exactly how is still unclear.

    And, in a boon to Democrats, the deal restores more than $100 million in Obamacare enrollment outreach funds stripped by Trump. Those funds would be distributed as grants to states.

    At the White House, President Trump gave his blessing to the emerging agreement but emphasized that it would be “a short-term deal” on the road to shifting health care spending to block grants awarded to the states.

    “The solution will be for about a year or two years, and it’ll get us over this intermediate hump,” Trump told reporters during a joint press appearance in the Rose Garden with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras. “It is a short-term solution.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/senators-reach-bipartisan-deal-restore-obamacare-heal...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:24 PM
  • Trump is losing ground , more tax cuts to ensure

    ..............

    According to Forbes Magazine , there is now a record 169 billionaires in America who did not make the Top 10 Richest List . Bill Gates led the way with $89 billion followed by Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet . Trump fell to 92nd with 6$ billion dollars due to a slow Real Estate market in New York , a costly Law suit , and an expensive Presidential Campaign .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:32 PM
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    ......where does the "buck stop."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:11 PM

    So far as the Democratic Presidents go, it stopped with Harry Truman.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:42 PM
  • No surprise there, where does the "buck stop."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:11 PM

    Harry Truman

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:46 PM
  • Actually , it stops "here."

    At least the dude had some stones...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:46 PM
  • Anyone else notice how the word 'invest' in D.C. means spend borrowed money?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 9:45 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 7:32 PM

    Soros would still be near the top but at 87 he has transferred a lot to a foundation to get his personal company out of reach of government regulations. He can still pay protesters to stir up crap for Obama though.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 9:53 PM
  • The buck stops here Truman. Poor guy was handed a Whitehouse full of Russian spies, had no clue about the A-bomb and trusted his gut to proceed to make sense of it all. He was the last of the conservative democrats.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 10:02 PM
  • Anyone else notice how the word 'invest' in D.C. means spend borrowed money?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 9:45 PM

    My opinion , 'D.C.' means spend borrowed money .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 5:52 AM
  • What makes you think he has a "mandate?"

    A mandate is an overwhelming victory, not a popular vote loss.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:46 PM

    Would an overwhelming victory in amount of States be greater then a popular vote count ?

    I believe it has been 5 out of 45 times .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 5:55 AM
  • “…that "Obama North Korea Red Line" work out…”

    There never was one. He did the same thing that President Trump is doing without the bluster and name-calling.

    ..................................

    'We could destroy you,' Obama warns 'erratic' North Korean leader

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/26/us-developing-missile-shield-to-guard...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 6:02 AM
  • From your link…

    “Mr Obama gave warning of the possible consequences. “We could, obviously, destroy North Korea with our arsenals,” he told CBS News. “But aside from the humanitarian costs of that, they are right next door to our vital ally, [South] Korea."

    “Mr Obama said that America was improving its own missile defences. "One of the things that we have been doing is spending a lot more time positioning our missile defence systems, so that even as we try to resolve the underlying problem of nuclear development inside of North Korea, we're also setting up a shield that can at least block the relatively low level threats that they're posing right now," he said”

    A factual “warning of possible consequences" is not a “red line,” especially when unaccompanied by bombastic and unrealistic threats.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    This is a “red line.” And it’s an irrational statement to make.

    “South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham warned Wednesday the United States will continue on a war footing against Kim Jong Un "unless the world can stop North Korea."

    "President Trump has basically drawn a red line saying he'll never allow North Korea to have an ICBM missile that can hit America with a nuclear weapon on top, he's not going to let that happen — he's not going to contain the threat, he's going to stop the threat," Graham told CBS.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-trump-will-attack-unless-the-wo...

    The question remains, how is he going to stop it? That’s why his “blustering” makes zero sense.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 7:30 AM
  • *

    Ulrich

    Lindsey Graham is not President.

    President Trump merely stated some facts.

    Lindsey Graham may draw whatever conclusions he likes, same as you can. That is obvious from reading your word salads.

    You draw conclusions and declare them as facts, some of which are ludicrous and others outright lies.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 8:52 AM
  • “…that "Obama North Korea Red Line" work out…”

    As I said, there never was one. But this is...

    Trump tweeted that “North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won't happen!”

    US President Donald Trump said on Saturday that "only one thing will work" to solve the North Korea crisis, although he did not explicitly specify what that would be.

    "Presidents and their administrations have been talking to North Korea for 25 years, agreements made and massive amounts of money paid......" the president tweeted.

    "...hasn't worked, agreements violated before the ink was dry, makings fools of U.S. negotiators. Sorry, but only one thing will work!" he continued in a second tweet.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 9:17 AM

    Ulrich,

    Now it's not quoting Lindsey Graham's conclusion it's merely stating your own conclusion as fact on what Trump says.

    Regardless, the world never took Obama seriously. They look at Trump and like him or not, they do take him seriously.

    Different area of the world... ISIS came into being under Obama's watch, and allowed to grow into a major threat. Obama blustered and drew stated red lines. But it took Trump's action to put the Radical Terrorists on the run. Don't take my word for it read the news.

    Or... are you too wrapped up in worrying about what may happen to Obama and the Clintons along with a few more if the Russian Nuclear Deal Scandal is allowed to be exposed?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 9:40 AM
  • “…that "Obama North Korea Red Line" work out…”

    As I said, there never was one. But this is...

    ................

    Wow ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 11:28 AM
  • In other words , Obama did nothing ?

    Now you're beginning to see the light

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 11:31 AM
  • Now it makes sense how North Korea built it's rocket program to where it is and claims of nuke heads for them .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 1:38 PM
  • "Now you're beginning to see the light..."

    Correct, the right things that were done in the past included imposition of sanctions, pressure on China to intercede, support to South Korea's efforts at peaceful reconciliation, and improvements to our defenses.

    All done without the childish "rocket man" buffoonery, and vain and empty threats of "...fire and fury like the world has never seen..."

    Direct military action has been highly problematic and infeasible because of North Korean long range artillery and tube rockets along the border within range of Seoul, which have been in place since the 1950's.

    As mentioned before, Kim Jong Un wants nuclear capability to "insure" the survival of his regime, but were he to use them, his regime would be destroyed without question.

    Were we to launch an unprovoked attack, we would likely be safe, but South Koreans and US military around Seoul would suffer millions of casualties.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 2:13 PM
  • *

    As mentioned before, Kim Jong Un wants nuclear capability to "insure" the survival of his regime, but were he to use them, his regime would be destroyed without question.

    Were we to launch an unprovoked attack, we would likely be safe, but South Koreans and US military around Seoul would suffer millions of casualties.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 2:13 PM

    Ulrich,

    You have chanted that BS before. Unless you can show us a link to that being the case, I will consider it merely your opinion.

    The Little Dictator you are defending has nothing to fear from an unprovoked attack from the US. You know it and he knows it.

    He got where he is because previous Presidents did nothing but kick the can down the road. When will he start concerning you with his nuclear power...... when he drops one on Scopus?

    Near in my life have I seen someone who has his head so far into the deep dark place of the Democratic Party than you. Do you do no substantive thinking on your own?

    Kim Jong Un has become more provocative as time passes. When do we say enough when he is directly threatening us.

    A pity he didn't have some money to donate to the Clinton Foundation or he could have obtained his Uranium directly through Hillary while she was peddling it to the Russians.

    Scopus must be the new La La Land.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 3:20 PM
  • “Every American should read the speech John McCain delivered last night.

    "In fact, every one of us should print that thing out, stick it on our refrigerator and read it before we pull out the eggs and milk for breakfast or get ready for work or drive our kids to school.

    "In what has been largely read as a denunciation of President Trump's world view -- the senator derided "half-baked, spurious nationalism" -- McCain also reminded us who we are as a people and, perhaps more importantly, who we were.

    "Accepting the prestigious Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center, he recalled a moving speech by President George H.W. Bush that extolled the bravery of those killed in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

    He remembered America as "the land of the immigrant's dream, the land with the storied past forgotten in the rush to the imagined future."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/opinions/john-mccain-speech-pay-heed-kirby-opinion...

    Here’s an article that includes the full text:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/2017/10/read_the_full_text_of_john_mcc...

    It’s unfortunately the kind of the thing the SO conservatives blithely ignore with their collective heads happily in the sand (or elsewhere.)

    Words by an actual American hero don’t seem to mean much to them.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 3:53 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 3:53 PM

    Ulrich,

    I didn't like McCain when he ran against Bush II and he has done little to enhance my view of him since.

    Suddenly you agree with McCain because he denounces Trump. Hillareous!

    McCain resents Trump because he has accomplished what McCain failed to do. So I wouldn't hang on his every word if I were you.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 4:07 PM
  • Correct, the right things that were done in the past included imposition of sanctions, pressure on China to intercede, support to South Korea's efforts at peaceful reconciliation, and improvements to our defenses.

    ...........

    Not only is this hilarious , it's blind devotion .

    China wouldn't even let the dude off Air Force One . The dude lifted the decades old Lethal Arms Embargo against Vietnam , it was one of his great achievements , ranks right up there with giving Iran a fist full of cash so it could join Russia in Syria . FEMA could use that cash here in the USA right now .

    Sanctions have been against North Korea for a long time , this isn't anything new . His "you better not or else" didn't mean squat just like everybody else didn't mean squat except now North Korea has IBCM , they didn't just get them in the last 5 months . Damm...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 4:39 PM
  • "We could destroy you" was over Sony ...damm

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 4:40 PM
  • ...and you act surprised McCain had negative things to say about Trump . ..I wonder why he would ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 4:42 PM
  • China is more interested in trading weapons for cheap slave dug coal from N K than threats against the U.S.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 6:01 PM
  • China is worried about China first and foremost . Ever notice China doesn't get involved in the Middle East or Afghanistan or any other hot spot in the World . It also ignores it's next door neighbor Russia .

    That Nationalist thing some seem to get so upset about .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 8:12 PM
  • Those Obamberal Freaks have it bad , they won't entertain a bad thought about the dude . The least little bit negative and they're ready to fight , how did the dude brain wash People so easy so fast ? Yeah , Trump has his fans too , but a spark doesn't ignite their bonfire as yet .

    I will never , ever , understand the love affair .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 8:21 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 17, 2017, at 6:02 PM

    Common: Trump is the President and Hillary is a two time loser no matter how you look at it.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 9:49 PM
  • I'd say more then 2

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 1:06 AM
  • U.S. judge orders Trump administration to allow abortion for undocumented

    By Maria Sacchetti October 18 at 10:30 PM

    A federal judge on Wednesday ordered the U.S. government to allow an undocumented immigrant teenager in its custody to have an abortion and said she was “astounded” that the Trump administration was trying to block the procedure.

    Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union, which represents the pregnant teen, cheered the judge’s ruling as a major victory for abortion and immigrant rights.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/immigration/judge-trump-administration-canc...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 1:17 AM
  • Trump does not support Alexander-Murray healthcare bill: White House

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-health/trump-does-not-support-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • “…it's blind devotion.”

    As usual, you’re totally wrong about “devotion,” but it is convenient that you put so many of your misconceptions in the same place. It makes it simpler to supply you with the facts.

    “China wouldn't even let the [President Obama] off Air Force One.”

    That’s not true. Of course he got off of his aircraft. Why they made an issue of the stairs is petty “politicking” and irrelevant, except those wanting to make a "molehill" out of an "anthill."

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “[President Obama] lifted the decades old Lethal Arms Embargo against Vietnam, it was one of his great achievements …”

    It had nothing to do with “great achievements” but was rather another step in the process of normalization of relations with Vietnam, who is now on the US side against Chinese expansion threats in the South China Sea. Arms sales will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. There was an agreement made for selling about $16 billion of aircraft and parts from Boeing and Pratt & Whitney.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…ranks right up there with giving Iran a fist full of cash…”

    President Obama did not “give” Iran anything. It was their money. To date, the US has never been in the business of stealing money from other international foes or friends.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “FEMA could use that cash here in the USA right now.”

    There’s one partially accurate statement at least, except for the fact that the "cash" wasn't ours. Perhaps you could remind President Trump that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “His "you better not or else" didn't mean squat just like everybody else…”

    …except that, to my knowledge, President Obama never said “or else.” If you care to be believed, you’ll have to provide a link or reference for that quote.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…except now North Korea has IBCM…”

    They have missiles, but have never demonstrated an intercontinental capability.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    You’re welcome.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 7:44 AM
  • Welcome for what ?

    I expected no less .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:01 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:08 AM
  • Here’s the corrected version…

    “Those [Obama hating] Freaks have it bad , they won't entertain a [good] thought about the [President.] The least little bit [positive] and they're ready to fight, how did the [haters] brain wash [themselves] so easy so fast?”

    And some possible remedies to your hatred…

    Most hatred is based on fear, one way or another. ~ Laurell Hamilton

    He, who hates, hates himself. ~ Zulu Proverb

    Hate misleads, fear distorts and love blinds. ~ Tim Lebbon

    There is no medicine to cure hatred. ~ Ghanaian Proverbs

    Do not wrong or hate your neighbor for it is not he that you wrong but yourself. ~ Native American Proverbs

    And what I recall is your own: "Hate eats you up from the inside."

    Again, you're welcome.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:14 AM
  • *

    "Perhaps you could remind President Trump that Puerto Rico is part of the United States."

    Correction Ulrich, Puerto Rico is not a state, therfore not a part of the "United" States. They are a Territory, and there is definitely a difference.

    They left their infrastructure go to hell, now it's our fault and we should bend over backwards.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:54 AM
  • "Welcome for what?

    I expected no less."

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:01 AM

    You're welcome for having been provided the corrections to your misconceptions, that you say you expected to receive from me.

    (You may want to do a "sarcasm" check.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:59 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 8:14 AM

    Ulrich,

    That kind of mockery of something posted by another is always your comeback and does not become a grown man. I call it your Little Sister approach.

    Be original Lil Sista!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 9:05 AM
  • "........ but was rather another step in the process of normalization of relations with Vietnam,......"

    Tell that to the American Fishery industry that has to comply with Obama era administrative rules while Vietnam and Asian countries can compete without the same standards.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 10:47 AM
  • *

    Richard, I saw the expose someone did a few years ago where the sewage from the people living around the catfish ponds ran right into the ponds where they raise America's fish in Vietnam.

    Obama didn't have to worry about that when he was feasting on Kobe beef.

    We will not buy seafood that does not state on the package that it is US raised.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 11:24 AM
  • "....you act surprised McCain had negative things to say about Trump . .."

    What negative things? Senator McCain didn't mention him at all. The speech was simply pro-America, and if you think that makes it "anti-Trump, that's your call. Here's just one sentence from what he said:

    "May God bless America, and give us the strength and wisdom, the generosity and compassion, to do our duty for this wondrous land, and for the world that counts on us."

    I'm pretty sure that few, if any, of the "regular suspects" bothered to read or understand what the Senator said.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM
  • "...Asian countries can compete without the same standards."

    Food products made or raised in Asian countries should meet the same health standards as our products do.

    The idea of importing products from countries where production is cheaper is nothing different or new. Where are Trump family products made?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 1:27 PM
  • *

    "Food products made or raised in Asian countries should meet the same health standards as our products do."

    "Should" is the key word Ulrich. The question is, do they and are they "required" to when imported to our country. I think you know the answer.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 2:29 PM
  • I'm not sure why BushII decides to speak now and join the division of the USA . He does make some very good points though .

    ************************

    George W. Bush: 'Bigotry seems emboldened' in US

    By Rebecca Savransky - 10/19/17 11:40 AM EDT

    The former president also criticized the “governing class,” but did not specifically mention President Trump, Congress or any other politicians in office.

    “Discontent deepened and sharpened partisan conflicts” in recent years, Bush said in remarks from New York City at a forum focused on security and sponsored by the George W. Bush Institute.

    “Especially among the young, who never experienced the galvanizing moral clarity of the Cold War or never focused on the ruin of entire nations by socialist central planning,” he said.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/356212-george-w-bush-bigotry-seems-emboldened-i...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 2:53 PM
  • ..and what does lifting a Lethal Arms Embargo have to do with fish ? The CEO of Boeing just happened to be traveling with Obama and signed a fat contract during the same meeting . Convenient , no ? No fish there .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 2:57 PM
  • Boeing lands Vietnam deal worth $11 billion at list prices

    Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY Published 9:56 a.m. ET May 24, 2016

    In case you missed this news from Monday, Boeing secured an order from Vietnam's VietJet for 100 Boeing 737 MAX 200 jets. The deal would be valued at $11.3 billion a list prices, though airlines usually receive significant discounts on such orders.

    The VietJet deal, the largest commercial airplane order in Vietnam's history, was revealed at a signing ceremony that coincided with President Obama's visit to Vietnam.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2016/05/24/boeing-la...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 3:08 PM
  • It's how a community organizer becomes a millionaire (wink) , (wink)...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 3:10 PM
  • McCain or anybody else can do this .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 6:27 PM
  • .and what does lifting a Lethal Arms Embargo have to do with fish ? The CEO of Boeing just happened to be traveling with Obama and signed a fat contract during the same meeting . Convenient , no ? No fish there .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 2:57 PM

    Sounds fishy to me.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 6:44 PM
  • "Convenient, no?"

    No, it was intentional. Why should the US give aircraft business to Airbus in Europe. I'm sure the Boeing workers in Seattle was very happy with the deal.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 7:26 PM
  • *

    "Food products made or raised in Asian countries should meet the same health standards as our products do."

    "Should" is the key word Ulrich. The question is, do they and are they "required" to when imported to our country. I think you know the answer.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 2:29 PM

    Ulrich,

    Yesterday I asked a question, was it too hard, or, are you ignoring me again?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 11:11 AM
  • No, it was intentional. Why should the US give aircraft business to Airbus in Europe. I'm sure the Boeing workers in Seattle was very happy with the deal.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 7:26 PM

    Why did the contract have to be done at the very same meeting as the Lethal Arms Embargo . Why was the Boeing CEO even on Air Force One , was it a pre-arranged deal . Why weren't other US Airplane Mfg.'s given a chance to make a bid . So many questions by some , so many weak explanations accepted by most .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 4:51 PM
  • 3 arrested after shooting following white nationalist speech

    GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Police say three men were arrested after a shot was fired at a group of people following the appearance of white nationalist Richard Spencer at the University of Florida.

    The Gainesville Police Department said in a news release Friday that 28-year-old Tyler Tenbrink, 30-year-old William Fears and 28-year-old Colton Fears, all from Texas, were arrested on attempted homicide charges.

    Police say the three were in a vehicle Thursday after Spencer's speech and began making Nazi salutes and shouting Hitler chants at a group of people at a bus stop.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/3-arrested-after-shooting-following-white-nati...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 4:52 PM
  • Btw ...Vietnam was the same trip where China left Air Force One sitting on it's Air Port tarmac . I wonder if Obama and that Boeing CEO played Gin Rummy while his staff scrambled to find a ladder so he could get off Air Force One .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 5:07 PM
  • *

    One of many examples of why the USA needs to secure the southern border with Mexico:

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/10/somali-executed-canadian-terror-attac...

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 5:35 PM
  • I may be wrong and have not researched, but I think when our government arranges for these big trade deals like commercial plane sales, money is loaned to the country buying. The big campaign donors on wall street arrange the financing.

    Regarding the Chinese not giving proper welcome, the way I remember it, whether ignorance or planned disrespect they brought only one stair truck and took it to the back door. Normally the president exits first from the front and the press waits then leaves from the rear.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 6:49 PM
  • "Why weren't other US Airplane Mfg.'s given a chance to make a bid."

    Boeing is the only US manufacturer that produced commercial passenger aircraft.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 7:24 PM
  • "...scrambled to find a ladder so he could get off Air Force One."

    This is what really happened. It didn't bother President Obama in the least. Guess the only one still upset is Mr. Scaggs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/world/asia/china-obama-group-of-20-summit-air...

    HANGZHOU, China — When Air Force One taxied to a stop in eastern China on Saturday afternoon, American and Chinese officials had already engaged in a lengthy, heated dispute over the most mundane of issues: How would the president depart his plane?

    China’s handling of President Obama’s arrival for the Group of 20 summit meeting in Hangzhou has created a narrative that the Chinese snubbed the American president. Some Beijing-controlled news outlets are pushing back, fanning nationalist anger by accusing the Americans of arrogance in the squabble.

    The reality, American officials and diplomats familiar with China say, is both simpler and more complicated.

    The United States military had flown in a set of rolling air stairs, as it does on all of Mr. Obama’s foreign trips, and the White House had received Chinese approval to use the equipment. But before Mr. Obama’s arrival, a senior administration official said, the Chinese suddenly reversed themselves.

    The Americans were willing to use a Chinese stairway, this official said, but the Chinese insisted that the stairs be taken to the plane by a local driver, who the Americans said could not communicate with the White House team about even the simplest tasks. So the White House demanded that he be replaced with an English-speaking driver, a request the Chinese refused.

    As Air Force One was landing, the Chinese relented and told the Americans they could use their own stairs. But by then, officials said, there was no time to make a switch.

    So the White House decided to forgo the main doorway in favor of a smaller exit in the belly of the aircraft equipped with its own foldout stairs. Mr. Obama generally uses that door only when Air Force One arrives in places, like Afghanistan, with high security concerns.

    The decision deprived the president of the grand display of descending the stairs from the main doorway to a red carpet. (The carpet was there, but easy to miss, as was Mr. Obama, who popped out as if he were getting off a commuter flight at a municipal airport.)

    The president walked into a chaotic scene, with Chinese security officials roping off members of the White House press corps to prevent them from recording his arrival. Even the national security adviser, Susan E. Rice, was hassled by security officials.

    At that point, a Chinese official said in a raised voice to a White House official: “This is our country, this is our airport.”

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 7:35 PM
  • Rick Lettau

    In other words , no respect from China or the American officials . Quite embarrassing for any President or "Leader of the Free World" . After all , as China says , “This is our country, this is our airport.” , a way of calling somebody an *** hole without actually saying the words *** hole .

    btw...my father , Mr.Scaggs , went back to other side long ago ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 7:52 PM
  • Why is she still in the USA , why hasn't she been deported , who's paying her medical bills ?

    ............................

    Court blocks undocumented teen from getting abortion, for now

    By Lydia Wheeler - 10/20/17 05:49 PM EDT

    A federal appeals court ruled late Friday that the Trump administration can block an undocumented teen in federal custody from having an abortion while it finds the girl a sponsor.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ordered the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in a 2-1 decision to find and release the 17-year-old girl — known in court documents only as Jane Doe — to a sponsor by 5 p.m. on Oct. 31.

    http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/356475-appeals-court-blocks-undocume...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 7:57 PM
  • Freakin' Obama , he's like taking a pitch fork to a knife fight , take that thing away from him , bust it over his head and let the fun begin..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 8:01 PM
  • So how many planes, stairs and cars did we pay for so Michelle and the extended family could visit China? Maybe we could stand one more big tax payer expense and buy Obama and company a one way trip to China or elsewhere.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 8:09 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 19, 2017, at 7:26 PM

    Ulrich,

    I'm not inquiring about the deal on aircraft. I'm more concerned about the substandard crap they are allowed to send over for us to eat.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 8:20 PM
  • Why weren't other US Airplane Mfg.'s given a chance to make a bid."

    Boeing is the only US manufacturer that produced commercial passenger aircraft.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 7:24 PM

    Good point , I never considered the Government supporting Monopolies . Even still , the Contract couldn't be settled at a different time if it was a done deal ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 8:20 PM
  • The only fish we eat are the ones we catch .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 8:21 PM
  • Now I'm remembering the Marine One controversy over which company bidding was more American.

    I got some local pond raised catfish in the freezer but have bought American caught tuna canned overseas, figure the guy that was ground up with the tuna a few years back has been purged from the process. So far as I understand it the tuna is still canned to American company specs. It comes down to 68 cents vs $5.98 for same size can.

    That is the crust of the matter concerning imports. Many times the cheaper imports of raw materials allow American companies to send it back as finished product with a profit to employ Americans.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 20, 2017, at 9:30 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 10:03 AM
  • *

    Just think, in the last few months the Left has ruined the NFL, late night TV, and the Boy Scouts. In the last few years they've severely damaged campus free speech and academic freedom, the private health care market, military readiness, and local law enforcement. Their judges have seized control over immigration, aspects of national security, and marriage. Meanwhile, the Left is increasingly violent (Antifa, Black Lives Matter, etc.) and the media are increasingly brazen in their leftist propagandizing and cheerleading. It seems to me the rest of us should be taking a knee to protest this insanity.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 1:23 PM
  • What planet do you live on?

    None of the issues you're whining about have any significance or any connection to reality. I'll watch the NFL tomorrow and let you know if there are any empty stadiums.

    Might be better if you ignore limbaughism and think for yourself.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 6:52 PM
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    What planet do you live on?

    Semo471 is living right here on planet earth with the rest of us Ulrich, observing what is happening to our great country.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 8:03 PM
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    "What planet do you live on?"

    The third rock from the Sun. And you are from Xrenda which is known to be inhabited by morons.

    "None of the issues you're whining about have any significance or any connection to reality. I'll watch the NFL tomorrow and let you know if there are any empty stadiums."

    They won't be empty due to enough of the Left Wingnuts attending in order to fool the pubic. However; the records show a 17% or more decrease which is affecting the owner's profits.

    "Might be better if you ignore limbaughism and think for yourself."

    Haven't listen to Mr. Limbaugh in years but it looks like you do since you know everything about him. You might want to watch/read/listen to TV/newspapers/radio programs that do not spew the hate for President Trump....very sad Common.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 6:52 PM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 8:24 PM
  • Lettau, Just what is this Limbaughism you keep mentioning? What planet or world are you living in? You seem to accept anything the Trump haters come up with while it is obvious the ideas and politicians you support have been on the wrong side of what's good for America for a long time now.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 11:29 PM
  • “…you support have been on the wrong side of what's good for America for a long time now.”

    This is what I support, and as mentioned so often before, the ideas I support are no different than they have been.

    Reduce the size of government in manpower and cost.

    Revise tax plans to move to balanced budgets and deficit reduction.

    Stabilize Social Security and Medicare as self-sufficient insurance programs.

    Improve education at the technical level to create needed job skills.

    Revert to rational world leadership in trade, climate and international agreements.

    Continue energy source development to include renewables and clean fossil fuel use.

    Keep military priorities centered on national defense, international agreements and anti-terrorism.

    Which of these are on the “wrong side” of what’s “good for America?”

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    After your likely “non-answer,” tell me which of these are on the “right side” of what’s good for America.

    Reduction of voting rights for registered voters.

    Tax cuts for President Trump, his family, his cabinet and his 1% amounting to 100’s of billions while the middle class get just 100’s of dollars.

    Elimination of citizenship opportunities for immigrants.

    Adding 1 1/2 trillion dollars to the deficit.

    Removal of health insurance for millions of Americans most of whom are in “Trump states.”

    Abdication of US leadership in world trade, the environment, and energy.

    Convincing NATO and other nations that the US is an unreliable partner in international agreements and negotiations.

    If any of those are good for the nation, I’d be glad to read some rational reasons.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 7:09 AM
  • “…Limbaughism you keep mentioning?”

    That liberals want all Americans dependent on government (your favorite?)

    That the NFL has been “ruined” by Liberals.

    That late night TV is “ruined.” (If you don’t care for it don’t watch.)

    That the “Boy Scouts” have been “ruined” because the admitted a few girls.

    That campus free speech no longer exists.

    That private health care will work without dropping millions from coverage.

    That immigration has to be curtailed.

    That tax cuts for the rich will magically “trickle down” to the middle class.

    That the rich must be punished.

    That liberals want the country to “fail.”

    That liberals are "seething with rage." (My favorite.)

    That liberals think the Russians caused Hillary to lose. (We all know the direct cause was her e-mails.)

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    And there’s more that don’t come to mind right now. None of the above have basis in fact.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 7:27 AM
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    Poor Common must have been up all night getting his talking points from the usually Left Wing Nut websites. Common I don't have time to response to your nonsense but will do when time permits. We have to meet daughter and new granddaughter for breakfast out here in Denver, Co.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 8:54 AM
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    Reduction of VOTING RIGHTS for registered voters. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 7:09 AM

    Just one example Commie Lettau. Just one. Let's if you can put up - or shut up - with your lies.

    Just a simple example of where this has ever happened. You can't.

    More Rachel Madcow fake news... here's your chance to pick up an ounce of credibility. Need a link - gonna take a LOT more credibility than what your opinion has.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 10:25 AM
  • "...don't have time to response..."

    Take all the time you want, or you needn't respond at all. You normally have enough difficulty in facing a single fact, never mind a bunch at the same time.

    As for "spewing hate" for the President, you'll have to be more specific. I don't believe I have made personal comments at all. What I have done is reference things he's said or actions he's taken or tried to take.

    If that's a problem, it's not something I can help you with.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 11:10 AM
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    Ulrich,

    Read your 2 posts from this morning. I have saved both of them for future response. No time at the moment.

    I have titled them.....

    Lettau's List of Lies #1

    Lettau's List of Lies #2

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 12:45 PM
  • Looks like "no time" is the new SO Conservative code for "having no clue" as to how to counter those facts.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 1:34 PM
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    Ulrich,

    Responses to your comments, assertions, lies or whatever.

    I numbered them to keep track and inserted responses.

    “…you support have been on the wrong side of what's good for America for a long time now.”

    This is what I support, and as mentioned so often before, the ideas I support are no different than they have been.

    1.) Reduce the size of government in manpower and cost.

    Response: You have supported just the opposite of this by your continual defense of every Democrat discuss on SO and their Leftist Policies.

    2.) Revise tax plans to move to balanced budgets and deficit reduction.

    Response: All talk and no action. You support politicians doing just the opposite.

    3.) Stabilize Social Security and Medicare as self-sufficient insurance programs.

    Response: So does an overwhelming portion of citizens. How do you propose to do this within the government and remain consistent with our Constitution? I believe the Supreme Court ruled many years ago individual contributions were to be considered a tax and the money goes into the General Fund. Also believe you have voiced your opposition to privatizing SS and Medicare.

    Once again Ulrich, rhetoric without a plan.

    4.) Improve education at the technical level to create needed job skills.

    Response: Once again a goal without a plan. Your last two candidates for the Presidency, Hillary and Bernie supported free college for all. And again, you supported them and coincidentally the free college agenda.

    5.) Revert to rational world leadership in trade, climate and international agreements.

    Response: By insinuation you appear to contend the rest of us do not. Did you support Obama in his one side agreement with Iran? I believe the answer is yes you did.

    6.) Continue energy source development to include renewables and clean fossil fuel use.

    Response: And where does this leave our abundant supply of coal?

    7.) Keep military priorities centered on national defense, international agreements and anti-terrorism.

    Response: That is precisely what Trump has done. Check about 8 months of Trump's success compared to 8 years of failures on Obama's part.

    Which of these are on the “wrong side” of what’s “good for America?”

    Response: If you had the courage of your convictions here most of them would benefit America if correctly implemented. Howevery your actions of 100% approval for Obama in particular and the Democratic Leftists in general pretty much leave your declarations as empty rhetoric!

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    After your likely “non-answer,” tell me which of these are on the “right side” of what’s good for America.

    8.) Reduction of voting rights for registered voters.

    Response: Nothing but rhetoric with no reasonable basis in fact.

    9.) Tax cuts for President Trump, his family, his cabinet and his 1% amounting to 100’s of billions while the middle class get just 100’s of dollars.

    Response: See response for # 8.)

    10.) Elimination of citizenship opportunities for immigrants.

    Response: This is tiresome. Political rhetoric as written, nothing more, nothing less.

    11.) Adding 1 1/2 trillion dollars to the deficit.

    Response: You supported doubling the debt during Obama's 8 years, now you are against it. I object to it then and now.

    12,) Removal of health insurance for millions of Americans most of whom are in “Trump states.”

    Response: If it gets rid of the abortion called Obamacare.... DO IT! Then get busy repairing the damage done to our healthcare system by the Democrats.

    13.) Abdication of US leadership in world trade, the environment, and energy.

    Response: You're repeating yourself. Just Political rhetoric.

    14.) Convincing NATO and other nations that the US is an unreliable partner in international agreements and negotiations.

    Respons: We are showing the World that when we make an error twice in electing incompetence to our highest office, we are going to do our best in correcting his poor decisions.

    If any of those are good for the nation, I’d be glad to read some rational reasons.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 7:09 AM

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 4:07 PM
  • Wow, I asked a question he can't answer so he makes up another of his word salads and then declares it fact.

    I should have turned the computer thing on earlier to ask again: Just what is this Limbaughism you keep mentioning?

    I see no answer in all that attempt to justify being on the wrong side of what's good for America for a long time now.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 6:03 PM
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    Looks like "no time" is the new SO Conservative code for "having no clue" as to how to counter those facts.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 1:34 PM

    Richard,

    Perhaps the reason Ulrich doesn't answer you is he has had no time in the last few days...... or he has "no clue" on how to answer you. Read his earlier smart arsed response when a couple of us did not have the immediate time to answer a dozen+ copy and pastes he found on some Leftist site.

    I will get to Lettau's List of Lies #2 tomorrow if I have time to be bothered with the repetitious crap he has posted to ad nauseum.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 7:34 PM
  • Ralph, With TV the way it is today and me not giving a flying leap about Hollywood and sports, I watch the senate and house when in session. The senate has become an adult daycare and the house is worse. We have a president standing up for the average Joe and democrats will have no part in it. The established republicans will agree to anything to get reelected and they share a history of personal gain over what's right, right along with the lockstep democrats wishing to impede anything the president comes up with. When it was democrats in control it was party of no and now they are back to being the party that wants to take away grandma's SS and Medicare, kill us all with dirty air and water, doom us to Algor's climate predictions and mess up Obama's dream of revenge on colonial powers of another time. It is time to drain the swamp on both sides through the power of an educated vote, something Lettau would not recognize or endorse.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 8:34 PM
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    "...don't have time to response..."

    Take all the time you want, or you needn't respond at all. You normally have enough difficulty in facing a single fact, never mind a bunch at the same time.

    As for "spewing hate" for the President, you'll have to be more specific. I don't believe I have made personal comments at all. What I have done is reference things he's said or actions he's taken or tried to take.

    If that's a problem, it's not something I can help you with.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 11:10 AM

    Haven't listen to Mr. Limbaugh in years but it looks like you do since you know everything about him. You might want to watch/read/listen to TV/newspapers/radio programs that do not spew the hate for President Trump....very sad Common.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 6:52 PM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 8:24 PM

    *******

    Common: First of all visiting with daughter and granddaughter is more important than answering your phony baloney comments but wanted to take time to address one of your questions concerning spewing hate....unless your reading and comprehension skills are lacking that question has been answered with the repeated Oct 21, 2017, at 8:24 PM comment. Once again I'll get back on here as time permits,in the mean time Dug and Wheels have done a fine job of answering your Left Wing Nut comments. Have a great night.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 9:18 PM
  • Just me , a missing part of the jigsaw puzzle is Medicaid . I hear a lot about Social Security and Medicare but zero about Medicaid , Medicaid is the biggest weight of entitlements , in my opinion .

    Trump is like anything else , good and bad . He's done away with the ,"oh , poor pitiful us" politically correct and special interest crowd . Those who supported and survived on these things are now either angry or mixfused on what to do or how to live . It's going to take time to cure the Obama disease .

    On the other hand , the delivery of his message is mixfusing in of itself . Social media , tweeting , "fake news if I didn't say it" can't be a good thing . Plus , when he does give an interview on TV , what he says is completely different from what he tweets . How often has he left that daily Press Secretary out to dry ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 9:23 PM
  • All 100% of liberals can be bad no different then all 100% of conservatives are bad , it's just not possible .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • Guess I'm mixfused , what's a Limbaugh , is it something like an Obamberal .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 9:28 PM
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    "Ralph, With TV the way it is today and me not giving a flying leap about Hollywood and sports,"

    Richard, you and I pretty well feel the same here. I have watched a little of the proceedings in Congress from time to time. Too nauseating as a steady diet.

    Some twenty years ago I was involved in trying to get legislation passed at the state level, representing our industry. Sat in on many legislative hearings and procedures. Have little patience for the BS that goes with it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 22, 2017, at 10:29 PM
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    Like Willie Nelson, girlfriend and I are on the road again heading for Missouri.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:15 AM
  • I recognize and commend your initiative to number the facts. It makes it easier to provide corrections to your interpretations of the issues. This is a nice change from your usual contributions which lean toward being confused and often somewhat garbled.

    1.) I have no concerns as to the stand that other democrats or liberals take on reducing the size and cost of government. My position is and has always been my own and that is that government must be reduced by continual review and analysis of roles, missions, manpower and budgets.

    2.) The tax approach in Simpson-Bowles was a step in the right direction. Those going in the opposite direction are in the current administration.

    3.) Stabilizing Social Security and Medicare is a simple matter of adjusting the individual contribution percentages, the eligibility ages and options, the payout percentages, and the income levels taxed. Whether the funds go into a “lock box” or into the general fund is irrelevant. Republican/conservative privatization plans are simply back door approaches to eliminating the programs.

    4.) The idea of “free college” for all is not something I have been in favor of. What I recommend is improvement in both formal technical training and in apprenticeship programs.

    5.) The Trump administration has turned over leadership in Pacific trade to China, has abdicated leadership in environmental issues to the Europeans, and compromised our leadership in NATO. There is no such thing as an “Obama [one-sided] agreement with Iran.” What exists is a six-party agreement to prevent Iranian nuclear weapon capability, which works in conjunction with Iran’s participation and signature on the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Iranian repudiation or renunciation of their treaty participation is grounds for new international sanctions.

    6.) Development of all fuel resources is essential. Coal can safely remain in the ground as a strategic resource until it can be cleanly used.

    7.) President Trump has been all talk and no new action. The accomplishments in Iran and Syria against ISIS have been built on the successes of the past 8 years. The great military that the President now touts is the same one that’s been fighting all along, even when he labelled it a “disaster.”

    There has been no 100% approval of President Obama’s actions from my part. I have continued to correct misstatements and misinterpretations on SO, but I have also disagreed with some of his policies and actions.

    8.) The republican/conservative efforts to reduce voter turnout are clearly evident in state laws being proposed, many of which have fortunately been found unconstitutional. If you tell a registered voter with a valid voter registration card, that now they must have a “photo ID” to vote freely, you are reducing voting rights.

    9.) The Trump tax plan calls for the elimination of the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax. That will save him, his family, his cabinet, and his 1% billions of dollars. I would believe that this is not beyond your understanding.

    10.) Just one example is that President Trump spoke favorably on DACA during the campaign, now he wants them all deported unless Congress acts.

    11.) I did not support doubling the debt for the “Obama years,” nor for the “Bush years.” In fact it is impossible for presidents to change debt without the approval of Congress.

    12.) President Trump seemingly has taken almost every position possible on the health care/insurance issue. The most favorable action supported by the majority of Americans is to make necessary adjustment to the ACA on a bi-partisan basis.

    13.) Repeating or not, it’s still a fact. How strange is it when Iran can accuse the US as being untrustworthy in international agreements, and the rest of the world starts to believe them.

    14.) We are showing the world nothing of the sort. Broadcasting “America first” to the rest of world is a prime example of “incompetence [in] our highest office.” If you want “poor decisions” just look to North Korea for the past 9 months.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    To paraphrase an old saying, “You can lead a SO conservative to rational reasoning, but you can’t make them comprehend or recognize it.”

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:19 AM
  • “Haven't listen to Mr. Limbaugh in years….”

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Oct 21, 2017, at 8:24 PM

    Interesting that you finally admit that. The point remains that he has been saying the same things for all those years. I’d welcome your agreeing that 99% of what he says is pure BS.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:28 AM
  • Just a few more comments…

    “…become an adult daycare…”

    That was the term a republican senator used in reference to the President Trump White House.

    “… a president standing up for the average Joe…”

    What has he really done? Where are the jobs back from China? Where are the reopened mines? Why is he causing the “average Joe” to pay more for insurance.

    “…they share a history of personal gain over what's right…”

    …right along with the President Trump tax plan.

    “…democrats wishing to impede anything the president comes up with.”

    When President Trump proposed a bi-partisan fix to the ACA, democrats agreed to work with him. When he proposed a “no-strings” fix to DACA, the democrats agreed. What happens is that he flip-flops so often

    “When it was democrats in control it was party of no and now they are back to being the party that wants to take away grandma's SS and Medicare…”

    The democrats don’t want to take it away, they want Grandma to keep both.

    “…kill us all with dirty air and water…”

    Nobody wants that. Right now democrats are for not reverting to the dirty air and water that we used to have.

    “…mess up Obama's dream of revenge on colonial powers of another time…”

    What is that supposed to mean? You are aware that America was formed by taking “revenge” on the British colonial power.

    “It is time to drain the swamp…”

    Seems that’s what candidate Trump kept promising, but now in power, he’s deepened the swamp, added quicksand, and populated it with conservative crocodiles.

    “…through the power of an educated vote…”

    It would be unbelievably great if we could have an educated vote.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:54 AM
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    1.) I have no concerns as to the stand that other democrats or liberals take on reducing the size and cost of government. My position is and has always been my own and that is that government must be reduced by continual review and analysis of roles, missions, manpower and budgets.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:19 AM

    Ulrich,

    That pretty much sums it up.

    What you refer to as "facts" are your opinions. That is fine, you are welcome to your "opinions" but presenting them as "facts makes your reporting them as such, a lie.

    Then there is the other side of the issue. In spite of your stated beliefs to the contrary, you defend all Leftist Democrat position.

    You must be a very confused individual. As Ann Landers stated.... "Seek Counseling".

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:05 AM
  • Lettau, your #3 sounds like taking the benefits of SS and Medicare from people that paid into it by raising their taxes and restricting access to participation.

    I could go on but see no purpose in engaging a recognized practiced propagandist.

    Your "To paraphrase an old saying" comment is typical of why your word salads are taken with a grain of salt as a continuation of your "Praise Obama Hate Trump purpose.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:11 AM
  • Glad to see you both gave up. I understand how hard it is for you to face facts. Best for you to let it go, you clearly are clinging to conservative talking points, and are not interested in the truth.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:34 AM
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    "Lettau, your #3 sounds like taking the benefits of SS and Medicare from people that paid into it by raising their taxes and restricting access to participation."

    Richard,

    That is exactly where he is going. Then it becomes just one more forced participation welfare program.

    Would be fine if you were able to opt out entirely and collect the portion the employer pays on your behalf. Properly invested it would make the forced participation Government SS plan suck.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:39 AM
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    Glad to see you both gave up. I understand how hard it is for you to face facts. Best for you to let it go, you clearly are clinging to conservative talking points, and are not interested in the truth.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:34 AM

    Give up? You poor fool!

    You are more dense than granite. You are back to trying to pass off what are, as you claim, clearly your own beliefs and opinions as "facts". Now they are lies.

    I need no talking points. And certainly all that claim to be Conservatives are not. Some Republicans have no idea of what Conservative Principles are.

    Principled Conservatives do not need talking points. They know what they believe in.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:54 AM
  • "Principled Conservatives do not need talking points."

    Unfortunately, that's all you have, and you appear to be blissfully unaware of that.

    Well, not quite all, you always seem to fall back on ineffectual attacks with childish insults. (Could be a "Trump" effect, but you were there long before he was.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 11:22 AM
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    "Principled Conservatives do not need talking points."

    Unfortunately, that's all you have, and you appear to be blissfully unaware of that.

    Well, not quite all, you always seem to fall back on ineffectual attacks with childish insults. (Could be a "Trump" effect, but you were there long before he was.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 11:22 AM

    You may put this down any way you please, but it is a fact.

    You are one egotistical know it all, fully brain washed into the liberal mindset. You tolerate no opions or thoughts that do not match your own warped mindset.

    You profess to believe in smaller government and pay as you go, which are Conservative beliefs.

    But you apparantly do not have the courage to live what you profess are your convictions. You are a bootlicker for ever Leftist, Socialistic, Communistic Democrat that comes down the pike.

    Ulrich, when you lay down with Dogs, you get fleas.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 1:44 PM
  • RV,you really shouldn't hold back!!

    Not to interrupt,but anyone know of a guy in Jackson that fixes up bikes free for kids? Used to be one and forgot his name. Or maybe an organization that does it. I have a nice one to donate.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 3:08 PM
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    RV,you really shouldn't hold back!!

    DA, you don't know how badly my fingers wanted to type SOB and how hard my mind had to work to fight the urge to allow my fingers to do as they pleased.

    On the bike thing, I saw something about that somewhere and don't remember where it was. Bet Rick or Richard might know.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 4:43 PM
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    Let's see what else the self-proclaimed veteran Lettau also got wrong - his staunch support of Obama and the traitor Bergdahl. Now we know from military testimony what we've known all along and what Lettau lied about. 3 men were wounded searching for Bergdahl - Lettau said it never happened.

    ===

    Veteran #1: "Retired Senior Chief Petty Officer James Hatch is expected to testify about a leg wound he sustained on a search mission that ended his career as a Navy SEAL."

    Veteran #2: "Army National Guard Master Sgt. Mark Allen was shot in the head in July 2009 while searching for Bergdahl in Afghanistan. The traumatic brain injury dramatically changed life for Allen, his wife and two children."

    Veteran #3: "During the search mission for Bergdahl that left Allen wounded, a rocket-propelled grenade shattered Army corporal Jonathan Morita's hand. "Every time I hit my finger on something, there's only one image that pops in my head, and it's Bowe Bergdahl" he said."

    ===

    Two traitorous people who served. Bowe Bergdahl and his supporter. I can't imagine what would drive someone to support Bergdahl's desertion, deny any injuries of those searching for him and support his god-president Obama's release of 5 dangerous terrorists.

    Just more proof of what lies and spin Lettau will do for his party.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 5:38 PM
  • DA, Not sure but I think that was a KFVS news story and don't know how to search on their website.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:06 PM
  • common gave his opinion on education. They start educating them early in the NE where he came from. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/10/23/president-donald-trump-tombstone-halloween...

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:25 PM
  • "You profess to believe in smaller government and pay as you go, which are Conservative beliefs."

    Now that's more bluster that is truly laughable. Are you trying to say the you "own" the belief in smaller government or fiscal responsibility?

    What's next? Are you going to claim that conservatives "own" patriotism, that they "own" love of family and country, that they "own" freedom of speech, that they "own" love of liberty, or that you "own" the American spirit of independence and love of freedom? You don't.

    Preference for a smaller government is not yours to "own." Neither are those other qualities which are American characteristics and values. If you want to assert that conservatives have similar values, go ahead and have at it, you're welcome to share my liberal principles.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    There has been no one on here that has shown themselves to appear as narrow-minded, narcissistic, pompous, pretentious and vindictive as Mr. VanGennip In my opinion President Trump is a normal human compared to your callous and resentful personality. And that’s no compliment, although that will likely zip right over your head.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “DA, you don't know how badly my fingers wanted to type SOB and how hard my mind had to work to fight the urge to allow my fingers to do as they pleased.”

    Please, don’t hold back. All this shows is how small-minded and intolerant the real Mr. VanGennip is. As mentioned before when Mr. VanGennip starts hurling insults, ranting and figuratively foaming at the mouth, he’s lost it. No surprise there. I have no concern over what he says or thinks.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:32 PM
  • RW,gonna take it to the Salvation Army. Problem solved.

    I accidently hit "report this comment" on one of yours. Just "x'd" out when I saw what I did. Hope I didn't screw something up. Gotta remember that,tho, when someone stays up all night thinking up word salads with no dressing.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:37 PM
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    All this shows is how small-minded and intolerant the real Mr. VanGennip is. As mentioned before when Mr. VanGennip starts hurling insults, ranting and figuratively foaming at the mouth, he’s lost it. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:32 PM

    ===

    Where to start - small-minded and intolerant is someone who's so afraid to respond to tough questions that he "bans" them. Such childlike responses you have.

    The only person foaming at the mouth is you Lettau. Just read your long word-salad diatribes. No one else is.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 6:57 PM
  • I'm thinking the bike dude stopped because of health issues but I could be wrong , there was an article about him in the Cash Book Journal .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:15 PM
  • I'll go back to 9/11 . When that happened the entire Nation united as one , every race , sex , age , it was all about the USA , the Flag waved across the USA 16 years ago .

    What actions have led to a Fundamental Change back to the 1960's era of Social unrest , divided Nation , and a Central Planning State ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:22 PM
  • All that Russian collusion is coming back to bite'm and plays heck with the progressive talking points common has down pat. He is not along though, I just heard some wacky congressman claiming tax cuts for the middle class was a way for Trump to get rich.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:24 PM
  • Trump is already rich .

    I'm going to wait and see how those tax breaks come out . The Middle should get the highest percentage in my opinion , if they don't , it's the same ol' , same ol'..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:29 PM
  • "...congressman claiming tax cuts for the middle class was a way for Trump to get rich."

    The tax "cuts" for the middle class are almost nothing, especially when compared to the cuts for President Trump and his family, his cabinet and his 1%. Eliminating the alternative minimum tax and the estate are a "way for Trump to get [richer]" to the tune of billions per year.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:57 PM
  • My opinion , start working on that $20 trillion which would mean stop spending

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:17 PM
  • Trump says popular retirement program will be unscathed in tax plan

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Monday dismissed the possibility of curbing a popular tax-deferred U.S. retirement savings program to help pay for his sweeping tax cuts, and voiced doubts about adding another top bracket targeting the wealthiest Americans.

    The potential scaling back of 401(k) plans, which for four decades have helped millions of workers save for retirement, is one of several important details yet to be ironed out in a major tax overhaul that Trump promised as a candidate and wants his fellow Republicans who control Congress to pass by year’s end.

    The White House and its congressional allies have floated the idea of paring certain tax deductions to make up for revenue that would be lost because of their proposed tax cuts, the centerpiece of which is a sharp reduction in the corporate income tax rate.

    The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times reported on Friday that Republicans were considering an annual cap of about $2,400 on pre-tax contributions to 401(k) plans, roughly 13 percent of what workers under age 50 currently can contribute on a tax-deferred basis. That would slash the amount of money that workers can save for retirement in 401(k) plans, which typically are invested in a portfolio of mutual funds.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax/trump-says-popular-retirement-program...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:24 PM
  • *

    welcome your agreeing that 99% of what he says is pure BS.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:28 AM

    Common: After you admitt that Rachel Madcow comments/statements are 99% BS.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:24 PM
  • *

    I think what has gotten Lettau so worked up lately is his failed party promises and ideology. And the fact that his Packers are 4-3 this year.

    LOL!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:31 PM
  • Don't know who that is, what's she said that you don't understand?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:32 PM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 7:57 PM

    Just dam, you are as eat up with misinformation as I thought.

    How in the H is "Eliminating the alternative minimum tax and the estate are a "way for Trump to get [richer]" to the tune of billions per year."?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 9:01 PM
  • *

    Poor old Ulrich is literally foaming at the mouth, with all the problems Democrats are finding themselves in.

    If they lock old Hillary and Billy up they may have to send a couple of those guys in white coats out to Scopus with a new jacket for Ulrich. One of those that laces up the back.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 9:31 PM
  • *

    I must have hit that one nerve Ulrich has left this afternoon.

    Got him acting like Lil Sista again.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 9:33 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:32 PM

    Common: You know who Madcow is - the leader of the fake news MSNBC whose 99% BS.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 9:41 PM
  • Ulrich, You seem concerned that Trump's tax ideas will run up the deficit but the leftist dems want to spend even more on disaster relief by not helping people but propping up the nearly depleted federal Flood insurance program that has paid claims over and over on the same properties. No private insurance company would sell such cheap insurance to encourage people to keep building in flood zones.

    Conservatives propose all the money go to people in need with legislature in place to reform the waste and mismanagement. Of course the dems cry foul saying republicans want to turn their backs on people in need. So when the next disaster hits FEMA will again be broke and we can raise taxes on the rich to fix it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 10:48 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 5:35 AM
  • Mr. Schaefer,

    I know who Rachel Maddow is. What is it she said that you disagree with?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:53 AM
  • "...but propping up the nearly depleted federal Flood insurance program that has paid claims over and over on the same properties."

    I agree that people owning property in flood prone areas or on flood plains should not be eligible for any federal aid to rebuild at the same location. One of the many impacts of climate change and global warming.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:59 AM
  • *

    Don't know who that is -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Oct 23, 2017, at 8:32 PM

    I know who Rachel Maddow is. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:53 AM

    ===

    A lie a minute with this guy.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:28 AM
  • *

    One of the many impacts of climate change and global warming.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:59 AM

    BS!!

    A direct impact of building levy after levy after levy on both sides of our major rivers then as they get topped raise them some more and push the water across the levy across the river, then being damned fool enough to build immediately behind these levys.

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that happening.

    You can take your global warming theories and put them where the sun don't shine.

    Next tell us about the increased ice in Antarctic that is causing penguin deaths and tell us how that ties into global warming.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 8:08 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:53 AM

    Common: As I said before 99% is what I disagree with.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM
  • Then you should have no problem giving 4 or 5 examples.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:42 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:42 AM

    Common: If 99% is BS than take any 5 comments of Madcow and 4.95 are BS.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 12:05 PM
  • So you don't know anything that she's said. That figures.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 12:32 PM
  • Who ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 12:38 PM
  • Mr. Schaefer is not aware of anything that Rachel Maddow has said.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 1:05 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 1:05 PM

    You only have to listen to that woman once to know there is little substance in what she has to say.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 1:12 PM
  • So maybe Lettau can name the things he agrees with Rachel Madcow about instead of demanding someone else list what they don't agree with.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 4:54 PM
  • *

    So you don't know anything that she's said. That figures.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 12:32 PM

    Common: I answered yoir stupid question with my 12:05pm post. Now then lets talk about Hillary and Bill going to jail over the soon to be corruption charges over the uranium deal with the Russians linked to Bill's high price speeches paid by the Russians funded into the Clinton Foundation....stinks like a week old baby diaper.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 5:46 PM
  • If they committed a crime, and are convicted, they will go to jail.

    What's the big deal?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:18 PM
  • I believe this may be where Mr Lettau joined MSNBC in an historic head banging:

    https://youtu.be/LabloPDPtLg

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:31 PM
  • Who is Rachel Maddow ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:54 PM
  • U.S. House panels probing Justice Dept actions in 2016 campaign

    WASHINGTON, Oct 24 (Reuters) - The Republican chairmen of two U.S. House of Representative panels on Tuesday said they are probing various Department of Justice actions during the 2016 presidential campaign, including FBI decisions surrounding the investigation into former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's emails.

    House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte and House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy said they have "outstanding questions" about why former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey decided to publicly disclose and keep Congress updated on the status of the bureau's probe into Clinton's handling of classified information, but never disclosed its probe into President Donald Trump's campaign associates.

    The probe will also explore the FBI's decision to "appropriate full decision-making" in declining to prosecute Clinton, rather than leaving it to prosecutors at the Justice Department, they said in a statement.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-house-panels-open-probe-into-justice-dept-a...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:59 PM
  • *

    If they committed a crime, and are convicted, they will go to jail.

    What's the big deal?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 6:18 PM

    Common: No big deal....an impeached ex-president and a two time loser going to the big house - right no big deal for a couple of bottom feeders.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:16 PM
  • You may want to wait to see what happens, before you start the "celebration."

    I'm not concerned over another republican/conservative witch/warlock hunt. (Exit laughing.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:21 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:21 PM

    Common: We will see - (exit LOL)

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:46 PM
  • So two People , Limbaugh and Maddow , are doing their best to keep the rest of the Peoples divided by spewing their daily hate . I wonder why the Public allows them to do this by giving them the attention they so desperately seek , I wonder why the Public can't think for theirselves .

    It all has to do with ratings and money , has to be , toying with the People's emotions just for the almighty buck . I'd bet a dollar to a donut if everyone just ignored the both of them they'd go away , their spark of madness turning into an inner fire of insanity .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 8:03 PM
  • *

    You may want to wait to see what happens, before you start the "celebration." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 7:21 PM

    Hilarious. Coming from the guy who has predicted and celebrated Democrat victories for years and lost. Every. Single. Time.

    No credibility on "wait to see what happens". What a joke!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 8:45 PM
  • Investigations into "Democrats" are witch hunts .

    Investigations into "Republicans" are collusion .

    How does this work ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 9:04 PM
  • I think anyone who has credible testimony to offer against the Clintons in any affair that could lead to conviction and jail may be someone at risk of suicide or one just plain statistically at risk of shorter than expected lifespan.

    Pence cast a tie breaker vote tonight after Schumer went on one of his tirades of out right lies saying the republicans are for the far right wing big lawyers and democrats are here to help the little guy by supporting class action over right of small claims court and arbitration. Another Wall street lawyer group favored Obama rule rolled back.

    The Minnesota comedian ended the session by recalling Paul Wellstone who died 15 years ago tomorrow and how told his constituents what he stood for and never wavered.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:15 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:15 PM

    It's an interesting time. It's almost comical if it weren't so sad.

    So now the Russian investigation turns on the Clintons and the DNC. How much evidence does it take? How many times have they lied?

    Hillary Clinton and CNN both denied she was fed questions before her debate with Bernie. Then it was proven that, in fact, she was fed the questions for the debate. And yet Lettau, etc. still voted for her.

    They have no values. He has no credibility. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama could kill someone in a video and democrats would deny it happened. And so would the media.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:43 PM
  • 'You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.'

    "~~~Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931"

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 7:31 AM
  • *

    2 months from today is Christmas......not the Holidays or Xmas.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:00 AM
  • -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 10:15 PM

    This whole Clinton losing thing is starting to put me in mind of the 2000 election and Al Gore . Just admit she lost and get over it , the Clintonites and Obamberals are still hung up about the election -- it just can't be so !! -- move on and take care of today's issues , they lost , accept the facts . Stop wasting time , stop baby crying , she stank , People rejected her , honest , move on...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:24 AM
  • *

    Rick,

    The Clintonites are still doing a lot of supposin, thinking there is still a way to get Trump dethroned and get Hillary appointed as Queen of the Universe, placing her right up there with God or the Great Spirt or Mohammed or whomever one looks upon as a higher power.

    Just last week I listened to a whole passel of supposin this happened and supposin that happened and the guy gave what was to him at least, a logical path for her to make it yet.

    She ranks right up there with Old AL Sore with her vision of why she lost and still whining about it.

    It's really quite simple....

    What Happened?

    Hillary Clinton!

    Trump didn't win.... Hillary lost!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 9:31 AM
  • Sometimes I wonder if the best way the dems could get rid of Trump would be to get all his agenda accomplished on the chance Trump would go back to the better job he had before with better perks and less stress.

    Interesting is how much has changed in the last 24 hours as that old Russian bull is beginning to aim his horns at his owners.

    As I said way back, Putin would prefer a President Hillary since he had plenty on her to control her.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM
  • *

    As I said way back, Putin would prefer a President Hillary since he had plenty on her to control her.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM

    Yes, and I figure Putin had it figured out way ahead of the Democrats.... Trump would be a lot harder to manage and control than the Clintons are. Trump has plenty of money and the Clintons are money hungry.

    What was it Hillary, I believe it was, said way back in the days of Monica and others..... drag a $100 bill through a trailer court?

    Sure as hell was self prophetic.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 11:15 AM
  • *

    Hillary will look good in that orange jumpsuit provided by the government. Cigar Bill better bring all the cigars that he can to give out to his new friends. Maybe this time the Clintons will get what's coming to them.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:20 PM
  • *

    Guess Common is hiding out until the smoke clears about the Clinton/Russian collusion on the Trump dossier.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:24 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:20 PM

    It's so funny that you've been predicting Hillary will end up in jail. You've been doing that for months.

    And it may / may not happen but you've certainly had a pulse on things. Spot on! :-)

    And Commie was telling you there were no problems with his gal Hil and this would never happen. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Depends on how many slimy gators Trump wants to get out of the swamp!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:25 PM
  • *

    Semo471,

    Problem as I see it, the Clintons will appeal and appeal with the money they literally stole to get where they are. They may not live long enough to actually get to look out from behind bars.

    I doubt we live long enough to see either one of them locked up. Deserved as it is.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:29 PM
  • *

    An afterthought. I sure hope the government protects the informant who is now out from under the Obama administration gag order. He could wind up committing suicide you know. The way so many others who have crossed the Clintons have. Some by shooting themselves in the back of their heads.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:33 PM
  • I suspect when it comes down to it someone else will take the fall as the real guilty party.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:41 PM
  • *

    An afterthought. I sure hope the government protects the informant who is now out from under the Obama administration gag order. He could wind up committing suicide you know. The way so many others who have crossed the Clintons have. Some by shooting themselves in the back of their heads.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:33 PM

    Wheels: Believe that informant was ex-President Obama. lol

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 8:53 PM
  • *

    Semo471

    This going to keep Ulrich busy dreaming up new explanations of how this is all the fault of those waskally wepublicans.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 9:03 PM
  • I'm still waiting to learn how a tax reduction on middle class wage earners is meant to make the wealth of Trump and his cabinet members along with the wealthiest Americans increase.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 10:26 PM
  • *

    Richard,

    The DNC just posted that talking point without an explanation and Ulrich has no answer.

    You're going to have to quit asking hard questions. It makes him look bad.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Oct 25, 2017, at 10:46 PM
  • "... a tax reduction on middle class wage earners..."

    ...is what you may believe, but when you add the elimination of the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax, it becomes without doubt, a tax cut for the wealthiest individuals and families.

    If that's what you want support, that's your choice, but please don't try to pass it off as a tax cut for the middle class.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 7:07 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 7:07 AM

    Barack Obama signed the largest tax increase in US History that affected seniors and the middle class heaviest. If that's what you want to support, that's your choice, but please don't pass it off as Obama caring a whit about the middle class.

    Barack Obama pardoned a trans Army soldier who gave up 1000's of sensitive documents that weakened the US and compromised intelligence. That is what you've supported so don't pass it off as if you care for American security or justice.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 7:14 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • I still believe Washington , DC needs to get over the election and move on , it's nothing but a distraction . It's all down to finger pointing , again , instead of working together on issues .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 8:25 AM
  • Nikki Haley for President ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 8:55 AM
  • The Republicans have yet to agree on or reveal in detail a tax plan but the Bollinger County Sage and the politicians he supports know for for sure it is a tax cut for the wealthy. Might as well go ahead and declare it will take Granny's SS and Medicare away too.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 9:02 AM
  • R. W. Bess

    Just my opinion , the current Administration is only changing the rules of the PPACA instead of making it not a Federal Mandated Law .

    Maybe I mis-understood but I thought this was their promise and goal , to make the PPACA nil and void , no longer a mandate for the Peoples required to purchase a Commerce .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 9:09 AM
  • *

    Trump has certainly been trying to make it "not a Federal Mandated Law".

    And republicans (RINOs) who disagree are not running again or being targeted.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 10:30 AM
  • *

    Obama worked for 8 years to screw this country up to the degree it is when he was pushed aside.

    It will not be totally repaired overnight. We have one Trump Hater, on this very site, who started in with a Thread within 48 hours of Trump being declared the winner and more than two months before he was inaugurated. And has been witching about everything Trump tries to do ever since.

    At no time in my near 80 years have I ever seen anyone who obviously care less for America and have their head so buried in a political party as the Trump Haters do.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 10:52 AM
  • *

    And the worse trend is the left in their beliefs. You will not meet more vile, hating, uninclusive and intolerant people than those on the left. With their chains, clubs, looting and burning. Just to stop someone from speaking.

    I remember well the Nixon prosecutions and trial. Republicans were harsh to Nixon and turned on him (rightfully) for doing far less than Obama/Hillary have done. But they didn't care about his party.

    Democrats today care nothing about integrity or value. It's all party. As the resident, single Trump Hater Lettau displays daily. Party. Party. Party. Country be damned.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 10:57 AM
  • Sounds like the strategy is to say nothing and wait to see if some of the far left mouths in D.C. come up wit some talking points. They were challenged today to offer ideas concerning tax cuts but seem satisfied to keep railing about Republican schemes to make rich people richer.

    Someone remarked the average wage earner with two or three part times is only going to hear what the left wing media tells them over the radio as they scurry to pick up the kids, get to the next job place and get home in time to say good night to loved ones.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 9:01 PM
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    Richard

    Beginning to look like Obama and the Clintons played fast and loose figuring on Hillary sitting in the White House and sweeping this all under the rug as it came up, if it ever did. Pulling the gag order off the undercover guy may just blow the lid off some of this crooked dealing by the previous administration and their lieutenants.

    Not to mention Obama was just nailed on exerting illegal influence at the IRS level.

    What can folks like Ulrich say at this point?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 9:16 PM
  • Wheels, Even if it all comes out, the swamp swimmers are all one big family in the end and will be reluctant to allow the law to take it's course in coming down hard on the Clintons. A few people may go to jail but Republicans will not press it. If I am right about that part, the Democrats will come back to their purpose to ruin Trump.

    It is becoming clear that the Trump Collusion thing is coming back to bite them and the FBI and JustUs dept was in on the deception that led to illegal investigations.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM
  • *

    Richard,

    I wouldn't question your logic. If nothing else works, there may be another rash of suicides.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 10:14 PM
  • Rick S makes a good point with that Elmer Fudd about the web they weave.

    Funny how many have taken the 5th and then hired lawyers to block the records of who paid who.

    As I said before Clinton would be Putin's choice. He is turning to a populist/nationalist position to stay in power depending on America to be the enemy he can protect against by expanding his own power. JMO

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Oct 26, 2017, at 10:42 PM
  • After yesterday's opioid go round announcement Nancy Pelosi said , "Show me the money!" .

    Well Nancy , you could start off by giving half of that fat Government paycheck you get to the cause . I wonder Nancy , you're really good at spending other People's money , it's the first thing that comes out of your mouth on any issue . Were you a spoiled brat growing up , mom and dad give you anything you wanted ?

    Guess what Nancy , money isn't the answer to every issue , especially not other People's money . But if you feel it truly is , hand over some of that tax payer money you have stuck in your bank account , put your own money where your mouth is .....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Oct 27, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    Who would support such criminal activity???

    -Obama IRS punishing political enemies

    -Obama Justice Department knowingly overlooked Clinton campaign and DNC unreported money to the Fusion GPS group

    -Obama agreeing to pay with taxpayer money for gender transformation surgery for a jailed Army traitor that endangered the US - then pardoned them.

    Sneller may have smelled how bad the unmasking of Obama and Hillary's illegal activity was going to be once democrats were out of the White House. Lettau remains alone in his unwavering support of Obama's nightmare...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 27, 2017, at 12:06 PM
  • *

    Oops. Forgot another huge Obama fail...

    -knowingly selling 20% of the US Uranium supply to Putin and Russia!

    The treason and crimes are numerous. Tip of the iceberg. Maybe the illegal $150 BILLION payment to Iran is next?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Oct 27, 2017, at 12:31 PM
  • *

    What Happened?

    Hillary Clinton lost!

    Nobody in the White House to tamp down the exploding Democratic Scandal!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Oct 27, 2017, at 8:51 PM
  • Next step is to make it as all politicians do it, opposition research that is. Anyone else remember all the uproar when Ted Kennedy was caught making deals with the Soviets against Reagan? Probably not, the media including the most trusted man in America have always been influenced to some extent by the progressive democrats even when there were some conservative democrats.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Oct 27, 2017, at 11:11 PM
  • *

    Richard,

    I think the last Conservative Democrat was our friend Swamp, and God rest his Soul, he is no longer with us.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Oct 28, 2017, at 4:01 AM
  • First charges filed in Mueller investigation

    Washington - A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.

    The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-first-charges-filed-in-mueller...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Oct 28, 2017, at 5:50 AM
  • "according to sources briefed on the matter."

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 28, 2017, at 10:40 AM
  • Must have been a monthly writers guild meeting today since we heard little from Ulrich.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Oct 28, 2017, at 11:03 PM
  • R. W. Bess

    During the White Water investigation , Bill Clinton nor any or his associates were the first on the list charged .

    Methinks this is trying to get somebody to talk or flip for info only , not a formal criminal charge .

    Methinks Trump already knows who it is and if it was related to him in any way the tweets would have already started directly after the news broke .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 6:36 AM
  • Roger Stone's Twitter account has been suspended after Trump-Russia meltdown

    By Sonam Sheth

    After the news broke, Stone took to Twitter and lashed out at CNN's Jake Tapper and Don Lemon, as well as network commentator and New York Times columnist Charles Blow. He accused them, without evidence, of lying and called them "fake news," as well as several derogatory slurs. 

    Stone told Business Insider after his Twitter account was suspended that his tweets directed at Lemon were not related to revelations about Mueller's indictments, but rather Lemon's "nonsensical claim that the Clinton's [sic] have been cleared in the Uranium One scandal."

    Though the 2010 deal made its way back into headlines over the last week, extensive reporting and fact-checking found no signs of wrongdoing when the Obama administration allowed Rosatom, a Russian nuclear energy firm, to acquire Canada-based Uranium One, which had significant mining stakes in the US. The deal required approval from several government agencies, including the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which Hillary Clinton had no control over, The New Yorker reported on Saturday. 

    http://www.businessinsider.com/roger-stone-twitter-account-suspended-2017-10

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 7:09 AM
  • "We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society ."

    ~~ Hillary Clinton

    ..............

    "Society needs to come before the individual's needs ."

    ~~ Adolf Hitler

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 7:20 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 7:21 AM
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    I will have my faith in the Justice system renewed if Bill and Hillary Clinton are indicted and get to pay for their crimes just as us Commoners have to when we step out of line.

    Until that happens I will continue to believe we have a tiered system at this point in time.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 8:30 AM
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    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 8:30 AM

    Wheels: Very true. The Clintons have lived as special citizens since his days of governor of Arkansas....hopefully their luck has run out and they will get their just deserves.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM
  • Wheels

    The influential wealthy Politicians do not spend hard time or are held responsible for their actions , especially Presidents and their kinfolk . After all , they nominate and/or appoint Federal Judges . They can also buy the best Legal teams money can buy and drag out their cases for years .

    Those of us who are accused by the Press , e.i. Wounded Knee , get to spend time in Federal caged hotels , believe me , the beds are blankets on springs and the food is , well .....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 12:40 PM
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    Rick

    Never had the "pleasure" of spending any time in a caged hotel, but my guess is for us Commoners they do not carry a five star rating.

    In your case, I would look upon it as an honorable calling knowing what got you assigned the free lodging in said establishment.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • I've waited 50 years to learn what was classified about the JFK assassination and it's going to be a while longer for it to be sorted out.

    To any young folks reading I suggest you take note for it may be 50 years again to learn all the details of the Clinton -Obama classified stuff about to go down.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 11:55 PM
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    Looks like Manafort has been indicted for conspiracy and other charges related to Russia. I don't trust Mueller to do anything unbiased based on the time he's served Obama and the democrat party.

    Having said that if Manafort is truly guilty of serious crimes then I hope he goes to jail. Unlike the heavily partisan Lettau who would never, ever find a reason for Barry or Hillary to see jail time for crimes. They could slit someones throat on video and his defense would be: "But that's not what they meant. Let me explain it to you..."

    :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:29 AM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 11:55 PM

    OJ: My mindset about JFK was that the Mafia was getting tried of Robert as AG getting into their business and had the boss killed. Then Ruby, a Mafia member in Dallas, killed the scapegoat.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:30 AM
  • To any young folks reading I suggest you take note for it may be 50 years again to learn all the details of the Clinton -Obama classified stuff about to go down.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Oct 29, 2017, at 11:55 PM

    When , or if it does , more then half of the report's words will be blacked out so the names or details will be unreadable . The only thing left to read will be words like "the" , "to" , "them" , etc , etc...

    Official toilet paper ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:37 AM
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    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:29 AM

    My thoughts are they needed an indictment of some kind to distract from the Obama/Clinton involvement with the Russians during the campaign and the Mother of stupid deals.... the sale of 20% of our uranium to Russia.

    In my mind the Uranium deal affects our national security and Trump should find a way of negating it as such.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:40 AM
  • Today is Monday , the big day somebody is suppose to be arrested by the Mueller posse . How many rats have jumped ship or fled to Mexico ? My guess is zero , da-nada , zip . There's too much more money to be made by the mass media yet ...

    .........

    Regarding JFK , sometimes flooding too much info is just as bad as not enough info . My opinion only , the USA has been on a slow and steady downward slide since his death...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM
  • Wheels

    That uranium deal was dirty from the get-go .

    Putin is sitting back eating popcorn and smiling at the entire Political mess going on in the USA..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:46 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:46 AM

    Agree!

    And it well may be that Old John has it correctly. It will be another 50 years before America finds out the true depth of the Obama/Clintons dishonest dealings.

    The positive side of that will be they are no longer around to steal from this country.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:54 AM
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    The positive side of that will be they are no longer around to steal from this country. -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 8:54 AM

    By then it will be the "USSA" - the "Union of Soviet Socialists of America".

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 9:37 AM
  • Wheels

    Hillary is like a STD , just when a person thinks she's gone , she flairs up again .

    I couldn't sleep last night so I started scrolling through the TV channels . I found this great comedy show , I couldn't stop laughing , it was the funniest damned show I've seen in years . The best part was the actors on the show were taking their roles serious , it was hilarious . I think the show was "CNN" , if it doesn't win the award for best comedy , I don't know what can be any funnier ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 9:46 AM
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    I see the Houston Texans nearly all took a knee yesterday in their NFL (National Felons League) game during the national anthem.

    And the ratings continue to slide. Also saw an article that the leftist, biased ESPN could be considering dropping the NFL as their ratings plummet even more than in the past few years because of their liberal bias.

    Their college professors have gotten the media to push their bias so hard average Americans are tuning them out. Good.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 9:54 AM
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    Dug: Didn't see the Texan fools taking the kneel yesterday....haven't watch any NFL games this year and haven't missed a thing.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:02 AM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:02 AM

    Only football I've watched this Century was my Grandson's high school games and the last couple of minutes waiting for the news or 60 Minutes to come on. Not counting Super Bowl parties where I only go to socialize and eat.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:14 AM
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    PS: I may be the only one in America who doesn't know who won last night's World Series Game.

    And don't really care.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:16 AM
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    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:02 AM

    Didn't see it either. I absolutely refuse to even check the scores so the networks don't get a "hit" from me watching these disrespectful, whining millionaires.

    Unfortunately you just know that there are a lot of them that hate this kneeling stuff and it's going to hurt all of them in the pocket book. Goodell screwed this up.

    Saw the pics in the news of them kneeling today. More examples of Obama's so-called "legacy". Disrespect police and the military and tell drug-dealing felons they are the victims.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:18 AM
  • Paul Manafort Turns Himself in to the FBI

    Former Trump campaign manager charged in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation

    by Kathryn Blackhurst and Margaret Menge | Updated 30 Oct 2017 at 11:05 AM

    Paul Manafort and his associate Rick Gates turned themselves in to federal authorities on Monday morning after being indicted on 12 charges related to money laundering in connection with political consulting work they did in the Ukraine from 2006 to 2015.

    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/paul-manafort-turns-himself-in-to-the-fbi/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:23 AM
  • "I see the Houston Texans nearly all took a knee yesterday in their NFL (National Felons League) game during the national anthem."

    This was out of protest to the team owner's remarks last week .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:25 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:25 AM

    Gotta tell you - my boss(es) said a lot of things I didn't like. But as an employee - as these NFL players are - I could either a) quit and find another job or b) put up with it.

    If what the owner says or does is a crime then I would contact the authorities and report it. Sexual harassment, physical abuse, etc. Other than that, as an employee your only choices are a) or b) above.

    Somehow these players think they are gods and they can demand anything from their bosses or their fans. And they are finding out that they serve the fans and their bosses (owners/coaches). Not the other way around.

    I heard what the owner said - "prisoners running the prison". I've also heard "patients running the asylum" and "kids running the school" etc. Just common comments. I agree with him 100%.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:54 AM
  • Gotta tell you - my boss(es) said a lot of things I didn't like. But as an employee - as these NFL players are - I could either a) quit and find another job or b) put up with it.

    ..........

    Agreed . Grow up , they're playing a kid's game for millions . How can such big strong men playing such a rough game have their feelings hurt so easy ?

    When they get their knees busted to hell they wish they could stand . Bottom line , when the season is over they go back to being a nobody again .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 1:34 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 1:34 PM

    Well said.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 4:11 PM
  • Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe

    By ANNA PALMER 10/30/2017 01:02 PM EDT

    Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

    Podesta announced his decision during a firm-wide meeting Monday morning and is alerting clients of his impending departure.

    The investigation into Podesta and his firm grew out of investigators’ examination of Manafort’s finances. Manafort organized a PR campaign on behalf of a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. Podesta Group was one of several firms that were paid to do work on the PR campaign to promote Ukraine in the U.S.

    Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department in April stating that it had done work for the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine that also benefited the same Ukrainian political party that Manafort once advised. Podesta Group said at the time it believed its client was a European think tank untethered to a political party.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbyi...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 5:27 PM
  • This whole thing kind of backs up the idea that anytime progressive socialist democrats accuse, they are probably already doing it and they accuse as a distraction.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 9:35 PM
  • If dirty Politics are dirty Politics , it takes two to make it that way . Clinton and her attacking mob best look in the mirror to see what's coming up behind them , you can run but you can't hide . Shake a bee hive and you're gonna get stung ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:12 PM
  • A Former Trump Adviser Pleads Guilty to Lying About His Contacts With Russia

    David A. Graham 11:48 AM ET

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election has notched its first guilty plea—but the culprit isn’t one of the bigger names in the case. George Papadopoulos, an obscure, low-level foreign-policy aide to the Donald Trump presidential campaign, pleaded guilty on October 5 to making false statements to the FBI.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/george-papadopoulos/544346/

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 10:26 PM
  • Rick. I'm thinking Ross coined "Dirty Tricks".

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 11:50 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:57 AM
  • Ezekiel Elliott denied preliminary injunction, starting clock on six-game suspension

    by Jared Dubin @jadubin5

    The Cowboys' running back will now be suspended for the next six games

    U.S. District Judge Katherine Polk Failla denied Ezekiel Elliott's request for a preliminary injunction on Monday night, allowing the six-game suspension the NFL handed the running back for violating the league's personal conduct policy to begin. 

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezekiel-elliott-denied-preliminary-injunction...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 7:01 AM
  • "This whole thing kind of backs up the idea that anytime progressive socialist democrats accuse, they are probably already doing it and they accuse as a distraction."

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Oct 30, 2017, at 9:35 PM

    While you've got the principle right, you've got the principals wrong.

    What you're describing is "Trump tactics 101."

    I'm sure you recall that when Senator Cruz called out Candidate Trump's obvious lies, Cruz became "lyin' Ted."

    Or when Jeb Bush pointed out Trump's intellectual deficiencies, Bush became "low energy Jeb."

    Or with his history of illegal acts from defrauding contractors and "students" to unlawful use of campaign funds, he has the gall to call Hillary "crooked."

    Whenever something nefarious he's done is exposed, he accuses his accuser of the same action.

    As is the case right now with the Russian collusion investigations, he claims Hillary "colluded."

    And this is in spite of...

    His continuous praise for Putin and his great leadership.

    His original National Security Adviser taking awards from Putin.

    His son making deals with Russians for Hillary dirt.

    His campaign team member pleading guilty to working with Russians.

    His own private meeting in the Oval office with the Russian foreign minister and Russian Ambassador.

    His warning the Russians and Syrians of a pending missile attack.

    His Attorney General recusing himself because of involvement with Russia.

    His request for Russian help in finding "e-mails."

    His continued denial of Russian influence on our elections.

    So he turns around and makes phony claims on Hillary and the DNC, in a vain attempt at distraction.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 7:55 AM
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    So he turns around and makes phony claims on Hillary and the DNC, in a vain attempt at distraction.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 7:55 AM

    Common: That is not a phony claim - Hillary, Obama, DNC all paid for the phony Russian Dossier on Trump....what they didn't know is that it would come back on Halloween to haunt them.

    Also, don't forget about Uranium Gate and the Pay for Play Clinton Foundation scheme - both of these are illegal and if the DOJ does an investigation or appoints a Special Prosecutor will find all three - Obama, Hillary, and Bill guilty and will have special orange jump suits made for them (Obama and Bill will have the presidential seal on theirs). Have a great day Mr. Common - you might want to go to your safe place and play with your safety pin.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 8:29 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 7:55 AM

    Ulrich, Ulrich, back at your lying accusations I see. Starting at the bottom and working backwards.....

    "So he turns around and makes phony claims on Hillary and the DNC, in a vain attempt at distraction."

    Phony claims? Did the Hillary Campaign and the DNC put out several millions of dollars to obtain a phony dossier on Trump or not? Who ok'd it... the Janitor? Nobody seems to know. Such sloppy management of money and they want to control trillions.

    Oh and then there is the Uranium deal. Did it happen or not? Did the Clinton Foundation receive a 170 million thank you or not? Did Slick get a half million for an hours talk or not?

    Did Trump make them do this? Did he personally dig this up or not?

    "His continued denial of Russian influence on our elections."

    I believe he denied being involved. Don't think he denied Hillary being involved since it now appears she was.

    "His request for Russian help in finding "e-mails.""

    You still denying there was any wrong doing there?

    "His Attorney General recusing himself because of involvement with Russia."

    That is an outright lie. His attorney general denies any involvement as it pertains to the election, having had only normal contacts with the Russians in his job as a Senator. Nothing there.

    If you don't know why he reclused himself why don't you look it up? Now if our "Special Prosecutor" had the grace to do the same where he has conflicts of interest.

    That's enough, why would I think the balance of your points to be any different than your normal BS?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 8:38 AM
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    "His continuous praise for Putin and his great leadership." Commie Lettau

    Who did the "Russian Reset"? Your beloved Hillary. Who received millions in donations and speaking fees for the Uranium deal? Your beloved Hill and Bill. Who communicated to Putin they would have more flexibility after the election? Your messiah Obama.

    You're in deep. And so are they. Trump praising Putin (words) vs. your socialist/marxist candidates actually dealing with him (action).

    You're a fool for words and a sucker for action. Learn the difference.

    Oh - and yesterday's indictments never said a single word - not one - of "Russian collusion) or any evidence of. Sucks to be you.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:25 AM
  • Seems like the "three" have taken an overdose of "Trumpism" and have been binging on "Limbaughisms," and consequently are making less sense than ever.

    The Trump-Russia connection has resulted in guilty pleas and indictments.

    The Hillary-Russia connection has nothing except conservative complaining, all the way down from the President to Hannity/Limbaugh to the SO conservatives.

    If the Clintons committed crimes, they should be charged. If they aren't indicted, stop whining.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM
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    The Trump-Russia connection has resulted in guilty pleas and indictments.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM

    Didn't know that Trump was indicted. Also read on your leftist news media sites that these charges are PRE-Trump.

    Blinders. Take them off if you want an ounce of credibility. And that's being generous.

    ===

    If the Clintons committed crimes, they should be charged. If they aren't indicted, stop whining. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM

    Trump hasn't been indicted. Stop whining hypocrite.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 12:21 PM
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    "Seems like the "three" have taken an overdose of "Trumpism" and have been binging on "Limbaughisms," and consequently are making less sense than ever."

    And you Common have come down with that Madcow disease and making less sense than ever.

    "The Trump-Russia connection has resulted in guilty pleas and indictments."

    Where are Manafort's indictment charges that connected to any Trump/Russia ties....they were all about hidden money and noncompliance of foreign government reporting done way before Manafort was part of Trump's campaign which BTW was only 3 months.

    "The Hillary-Russia connection has nothing except conservative complaining, all the way down from the President to Hannity/Limbaugh to the SO conservatives.If the Clintons committed crimes, they should be charged. If they aren't indicted, stop whining."

    We true Americans will stop the so call whining when the Clintons and their side kick Obama is brought to justice.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 12:25 PM
  • Not sure how Trump fits into all this , a mere co-incidence the dude stepped down on the same day as everything else went down ? I have to wonder which road this will lead to and who else will be involved . Collusion against American elections is collusion no matter the political Party . Why would Russia choose only one Party if it wanted to influence America's elections , why wouldn't it decide whichever Party or person would fit it's agenda . Many have claimed Russia has been doing this for years --- did they get Obama elected too ??

    .................

    Tony Podesta stepping down from lobbying giant amid Mueller probe

    By ANNA PALMER 10/30/2017 01:02 PM EDT

    Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

    Podesta announced his decision during a firm-wide meeting Monday morning and is alerting clients of his impending departure.

    The investigation into Podesta and his firm grew out of investigators’ examination of Manafort’s finances. Manafort organized a PR campaign on behalf of a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. Podesta Group was one of several firms that were paid to do work on the PR campaign to promote Ukraine in the U.S.

    Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department in April stating that it had done work for the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine that also benefited the same Ukrainian political party that Manafort once advised. Podesta Group said at the time it believed its client was a European think tank untethered to a political party.

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 12:38 PM
  • Trump dismisses Papadopoulos as 'low-level volunteer'

    .........

    President Donald Trump on Tuesday sought to downplay the indictments of former top campaign aides even calling one of his campaign advisers, who pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI, a "low-level volunteer."

    But during his campaign, he touted the adviser, George Papadopoulos, as an "excellent guy" as he sought to beef up his foreign policy staff.

    "The Fake News is working overtime. As Paul Manaforts [sic] lawyer said, there was 'no collusion' and events mentioned took place long before he came to the campaign. Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George, who has already proven to be a liar. Check the DEMS!" Trump tweeted.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-dismisses-papadopoulos-as-low-leve...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 12:40 PM
  • Again , instead of the (D) and the (R) working together , the finger pointing and blame game goes to a whole new level .

    Could this be a part of Russia's Chess game , did Russia assume it would happen , cause self inflicted wounds to the American Political system itself ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 12:43 PM
  • All the while North Korea's nuke testing site caved in killing at least 200 and spreading radiation all over North Korea , nothing in the news about this . At one point , North Korea's nukes were all the rage ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 1:06 PM
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    If the Clintons committed crimes, they should be charged. If they aren't indicted, stop whining.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM

    Lil man. I don't take orders from anyone not my superior. And you aren't it by a long shot.

    I will lay off the Clintons when they receive proper punishment for their crimes.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 3:19 PM
  • Bill Clinton was impeached , I would say he was indicted .

    ...........

    Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body formally levels charges against a high official of government. Impeachment does not necessarily mean removal from office; it is only a formal statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law, and is thus only the first step towards removal. Once an individual is impeached, he or she must then face the possibility of conviction via legislative vote, which then entails the removal of the individual from office.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:08 PM
  • More whinging...

    Has it ever occurred to you that most normal people don't care whether you and Rush "lay off the Clintons."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:14 PM
  •  Rick Lettau

    I'm not really into the (D) or the (R) , who's good or who's bad , but in my opinion I'd say the Clintons are about as shady as Nixon was ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:16 PM
  • More whinging...

    Has it ever occurred to you that most normal people don't care whether you and Rush "lay off the Clintons."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:14 PM

    If this is directed at me , I don't whing and I'm not most normal people , I'm an individual who thinks for myself . I'm an equal opportunity critic , I'll decide when to "lay off" somebody , it's that Free Speech thing ..

    Who the hell is "Rush" ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:21 PM
  • Don't you find it ironic Russia made sure Trump won the election when Clinton got most of the votes ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:25 PM
  • From mortgages to retirement, conflicts engulf Trump tax plan

    ....................

    Here are some of the most contentious issues in the tax debate, which still had weeks and possibly months to play out before any decisive action can be taken by the U.S. Congress.

    401(k). Republicans are eyeing new limits on how much money Americans can pump each year into their 401(k) retirement accounts on a pre-tax basis. Tighter contribution limits would produce new tax revenues for Washington and help Republicans pay for tax cuts they want to push through for high-income earners, corporations and wealthy families' inheritances.

    Fund management firms that manage 401(k) plans, Wall Street firms that execute trades for them and the 54 million Americans who have 401(k) accounts could be hurt by such a change.

    Mortgages. Americans can now deduct mortgage interest from their incomes if they itemize deductions. The plan does not call for changing that directly, but it does call for doubling the standard deduction, a separate tax return line that determines eligibility for itemizing. Doubling that would mean fewer Americans itemizing. So, fewer could deduct mortgage interest, leaving the deduction available only to higher-income people.

    Real estate interests have fought for an exemption of state and local property taxes that is expected to make it into the bill. They say killing the deduction for property taxes would raise home ownership costs.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/personalfinance/from-mortgages-to-retirement-conf...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 5:50 PM
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    If the Clintons committed crimes, they should be charged. If they aren't indicted, stop whining. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM

    Trump hasn't been indicted. Stop whining hypocrite.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 6:31 PM
  • "If this is directed at me..."

    It's not.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 6:42 PM
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    Hey Ulrichy, if you don't like me, why not just man up and say so instead of sniping at me like a little girl?

    Lil Sista, I have no idea what Rush is saying, I don't listend to him. You appear to be the go to for what Rush is saying. When in the car my radio is set for 97.1 FM Kilmead and Friends I believe it is. I know it is Kilmead. A very knowledgeable and fair minded Conservative.

    Pretty sure it will be a while before you read this. At your mental level, I would expect you to be out Trick or Treating tonight.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 7:51 PM
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    Commie Lettau quotes and references Rush more than anyone on here.

    Just another example of his hypocrisy.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:04 PM
  • I just dropped in to see where the the leftist thinking is going. Watched some D.C. mouth criticizing and pleading for Trump to be nice and do the right thing concerning those poor immigrants coming into our country. That was this morning. A lot of those commonsensematters types voted this guy in to represent them.

    Some other representatives of Ulrich's ideology made speeches about how Trump was guilty of treason to empty chambers as the rest ran out to check their their zippers and/or whatever women call it.

    Funny to me how many claim they never listen to Rush, I'm sure Lettau has never listened to him. He only listens to what his party hacks say Limbaugh said, Claiming he spews hate.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM
  • They all spew hate and get paid good money too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:41 PM
  • I think for myself for Free .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:42 PM
  • "They all spew hate and get paid good money too."

    You listen and evaluate all of them do you?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 9:52 PM
  • I listen to none , I read posts where others speak of the hate they've heard spewed .

    Evaluate no , decide .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 10:24 PM
  • I think for myself for Free .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 10:26 PM
  • others speak of the hate they've heard spewed

    That's what I thought.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 10:43 PM
  • OOPs I thought Lettau posted that. Sorry for confusing your post with what I expected common to say.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Oct 31, 2017, at 10:45 PM
  • No problem .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:43 AM
  • Independents catch hell from both sides , I'm a big boy and can take it . People are Free to listen or watch whatever they want , who am I to say ? I choose not to .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:50 AM
  • Trump Jr. jokes he'll take half of daughter's Halloween candy to 'teach her about socialism'

    By Jacqueline Thomsen - 10/31/17 07:36 PM EDT

    Donald Trump Jr. joked Tuesday that he was going to take half of his daughter’s candy from trick or treating on Halloween and give to a child “who sat at home” to “teach her about socialism.”

    “I’m going to take half of Chloe’s candy tonight & give it to some kid who sat at home. It’s never to early to teach her about socialism,” Trump Jr. tweeted on Halloween night.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/358126-trump-jr-jokes-hell-take...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 7:02 AM
  • *

    I see a bunch of Trump haters responded to Don Jr.

    *itching about how greedy and tight the Trump’s are.

    Wonder if any of these detractors wrote a one million dollar check to hurricane relief?

    And I believe I was reading where one of the Trump sons has been sponsoring some kind of golf tournament for charity where a very high percentage of the take actually makes it's way to the cause. This would be in stark contrast to the Clinton Foundation where most of the take goes to "Expenses and Salaries".

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM
  • *

    “I’m going to take half of Chloe’s candy tonight & give it to some kid who sat at home. It’s never to early to teach her about socialism,” Trump Jr. tweeted on Halloween night.-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 7:02 AM

    *******

    The above is a good example of wealth (candy) redistribution of the workers (trick or treaters) to the non-workers (kids who sit home) in a Dependent Democratic society.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:52 AM
  • What does getting free candy from your neighbors teach you about "socialism?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:34 AM
  • What does getting free candy from your neighbors teach you about "socialism?"

    Nothing in your case.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:39 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:34 AM

    To a socialist/marxist there is nothing to see here. Because to people like you candy - like money - grows on trees. As long as it doesn't come out of your dependent wallet.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:55 AM
  • "...if you don't like me..."

    Whether I "like you" or "dislike you" is completely irrelevant. In fact, I really don't care one way or another. You've never said or done anything that bothers me in the least.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:12 AM
  • "Nothing in your case."

    Nothing in anybody's case. You do realize you're talking about halloween candy that's free to anyone.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:14 AM
  • What does getting free candy from your neighbors teach you about "socialism?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:34 AM

    I believe the point being one kid took the inciative to go out and get theirs while another kid didn't . The one who did had to give half of what they earned to the one who didn't . I could be wrong but that's the way I take it , like People who get off their butt and go work but have to give a percentage of what they worked for to those who choose to sit at home and take that percentage .

    Socialism , keeping everyone equally poor since 1917 .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:24 AM
  • Obamma had this concept down to an art....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:25 AM
  • Lettau, There was a persimmon tree on the side of the road near where I grew up. The persimmons were free to anyone but today's liberal mindset of teachers believes anyone who gathers them is obligated to share with those who stayed on the couch.

    As I indicated, nothing you could learn.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:26 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:24 AM

    Even Ulrich should be able to get the concept.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:27 AM
  • “You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

    ¯ Adrian Rogers

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:27 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:12 AM

    Ok, I understand perfectly. It's just in the Leftist Manifesto.... go out and continuously hurl insults at people you don't know. It helps your cause.

    Sometimes expanding your remarks to include whole groups helps even more.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:34 AM
  • This is one reason I believe the working class should get the biggest tax break . Yeah , give the upper class a break too , but give the working class the majority , they're pulling most of the weight at this point . And the poor , how is it possible to tax nothing or close to nothing , where is a gain ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:39 AM
  • "...but today's liberal mindset of teachers believes anyone who gathers them is obligated to share with those who stayed on the couch."

    Nothing of the sort. If that's your opinion, you're welcome to it. My opinion is that you claim is completely false. More of your "limbaughisms?"

    I don't imagine you have a quote somewhere from a teacher saying that, so it's again only your belief.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:40 AM
  • "...go out and continuously hurl insults at people you don't know."

    I know that's not true either, but if it makes you feel better to say so, have at it. As I said, you don't concern me in the least.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM
  • I don't believe all teachers are liberals . Some of those math and history teachers want perfection ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:45 AM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:14 AM

    No. The candy was free to the children who went trick or treating, not the children who sat at home. You must try really hard not to get the concept. Pretty good analogy, in my opinion.

    -- Posted by Donna Runnels on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:47 AM
  • *

    What does getting free candy from your neighbors teach you about "socialism?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:34 AM

    Common: You are joking are you not. Just go out and show Trump Jr.'s comment to any 7 year old and they will explain it to you.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 12:10 PM
  • Ms. Runnels,

    That's pretty stupid. Why should kids that stay at home get candy.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 12:41 PM
  • *

    Nothing in anybody's case. You do realize you're talking about halloween candy that's free to anyone. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:14 AM

    Why do you support that could work but won't work get free money? You've pushed that on here for years.

    I gotta say, just reading your comments today is simply awesome. It blatantly exposes the twisted sick thinking of democrats today.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • I think I am starting to understand Ulrich. You just have to read his remarks knowing he speaks in Schumerisms.

    Oh and how many times should I remind him I don't need or seek his welcome to have and express my opinions?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:13 PM
  • "...should I remind him..."

    As I said, what you "need or seek" makes no difference to me in any manner.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:30 PM
  • *

    As I said, what you "need or seek" makes no difference to me in any manner. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:30 PM

    As someone who pushes taking money from those that work it should make a difference to you. All that "free money" you constantly demand would be cut short if it weren't for those hard workers paying for your dependence.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:34 PM
  • back to the "...Real President Dedicated to US Interests."

    His statement during today's Cabinet meeting was similar to this:

    "...for me, taxes are most important..."

    Which makes sense as his tax plan includes elimination of the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax, which will save him and his family billions of dollars over the next few years.

    The obvious question, even from conservatives, should be why are we putting our nation into additional debt by trillions of dollars, so the President, his family, his 1% should get almost all of it?

    It would be nice if someone had a valid rationale for it, without resorting to "wealth envy" foolishness, and "trickle down" fairy tales.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:41 PM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 12:41 PM

    For the same reason that some people who won't work expect the government to support them? Do you like arguing with yourself?

    -- Posted by Donna Runnels on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:51 PM
  • As I said, what you "need or seek" makes no difference to me in any manner.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:30 PM

    So why do you keep saying people are welcome have an opinion as if you are the one giving permission?

    No one is obligated to provide rational to your nonsense because you have proved you are going to believe every Schumerism you hear.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 1:58 PM
  • "No one is obligated to provide rational...."

    Of course not, but the lack of it is blindingly obvious in so many conservative "contributions."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 2:46 PM
  • "...some people who won't work expect the government to support them?"

    What is it that I have said that leads you to believe that? If people can work and there are jobs available, they should work. I don't believe they should receive anything from the government under those conditions.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM
  • *

    What is it that I have said that leads you to believe that? If people can work and there are jobs available, they should work. I don't believe they should receive anything from the government under those conditions.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM

    Linked In reports there are 9000 new jobs to be filled in the Greater St. Louis area. I suppose there will be 9000 less deadbeats drawing a welfare check next month. Right??

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 4:03 PM
  • *

    Largest expansion of welfare in US History - Barack Obama

    Largest number of underemployed in US History - Barack Obama

    Largest expansion of SS Disability claims in US History - Barack Obama

    ===

    What is it that I have said that leads you to believe that? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 2:51 PM

    "Obama! Obama! Obama!" - Rick Lettau

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 5:14 PM
  • "Right??"

    Sometimes I wonder why I even bother...

    Remember this?

    ....but the lack of [rational and logic] is blindingly obvious in so many conservative "contributions."

    There are some new jobs, but many of the "Linkedin" jobs go to people changing jobs, moving into the area, getting a first job from college or tech school, taking higher paying work. etc.

    Other than minimum wage work, there are very few for which welfare recipients would qualify for without the additional education that conservatives seem to despise.

    Not surprised that you wouldn't understand this.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:13 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:13 PM

    "Obama! Obama! Obama!" - Rick Lettau

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:41 PM
  • So which conservatives seem to despise additional education?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 7:26 PM
  • Start with Betsy DeVos and about a $10 billion cut.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:12 PM
  • *

    Start with Betsy DeVos and about a $10 billion cut. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:12 PM

    Start with Barack Obama and no increase in SS for seniors but a $137 BILLION in college loan forgiveness for the little snowflakes.

    You and Barry are throwing granny over the cliff.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:17 PM
  • "Other than minimum wage work, there are very few for which welfare recipients would qualify for without the additional education that conservatives seem to despise."

    From my experience , we used Man Power service . If the person met our pre-determined goals they became a full time employee of Rubbermaid . It was not minimum wage nor was it minimum wage work , training was their education .

    I refuse to believe that tired "poor pitiful us" routine . People can get off welfare , it's called motivation .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:19 PM
  • ..and I'm not a conservative before you start your accusations .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:19 PM
  • People don't find work or get jobs because they can't pass drug testing . People can't get good paying jobs if Unions don't accept them into their locals , Unions are responsible for unemployment too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:59 PM
  • What accusations? I agree with you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:59 PM
  • "Start with Betsy DeVos and about a $10 billion cut"

    Can you give us an example where more spending gets better education?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:04 PM
  • *

    Can you give us an example where more spending gets better education?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:04 PM

    OJ: I'll help poor ole Common out with this question - it's when the local PTA has a bake sale where the proceeds goes for the purchase of class items.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:36 PM
  • What accusations? I agree with you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 8:59 PM

    Sorry .

    I had 3 rules , be there every day , try your best , and get along with everybody . Everybody knew these rules . I used the 3 strikes and you're out system , if I had to remind them the 3rd time , they were gone , everybody knew this too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:39 PM
  • *

    Back to the focus of this thread - the USA has now a strong team in dealing with the rest of the world.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article182180446.html

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:45 PM
  • semo, I was going to ask a followup "When and how did she cut $10 billion from education?" More making stuff up?

    The local school supporters in my home town did just that, bake sales and such. Don't remember anyone running up the road and begging for others to give money because they were doing something non productive, but with the help of some who could afford to give more than others they raised enough to replace the very old band uniforms in just a few weeks. Quite a sum in those days.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 9:57 PM
  • Nikki Haley for President

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:10 PM
  • *

    Other than minimum wage work, there are very few for which welfare recipients would qualify for without the additional education that conservatives seem to despise.

    Not surprised that you wouldn't understand this.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:13 PM

    Ok, just assuming you are right, why were these deadbeats allowed to sit on their *** all of this time without their having to take training, they certainly had the time since they were not working. Would have at least kept their electric bill down by not running the big flatscreen all day.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 10:24 PM
  • I know of several that went to school under TRA. Some went on to different jobs in the field they retrained for and some took what was available with nothing to do with the field they were retrained for. Others are still on the couch. One in particular completed medical coding and applied at a hospital and was offered a job in the kitchen, still there after 15 years and since moved up. Another felt that that after retraining a job unrelated was beneath and still on the couch.

    Point is, Job training does not create jobs past the trainers, A rising economy creates jobs via private sector and it seems to me the leftists are against that in favor of destroying Trump politically.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 11:58 PM
  • Quite a few sections of the USA have their own economies , trade entrepreneurs of drugs , entitlements , and guns . They have motivation and they have skills , the best live a lucrative life in the worse of living conditions .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 6:25 AM
  • "Point is, Job training does not create jobs past the trainers..."

    Right. No one said it "creates" jobs. Job training produces qualified workers to accept those "9000 jobs."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 6:52 AM
  • *

    Other than minimum wage work, there are very few for which welfare recipients would qualify for without the additional education that conservatives seem to despise. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 1, 2017, at 6:13 PM

    Pure Lettau opinion and nothing more. Sorry - gonna take more than your leftist opinion on your claim that welfare recipients couldn't qualify for jobs without training.

    You have zero proof and your oft-wrong opinion won't work.

    Not surprised you would try to pass your post off as fact.

    Fail.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 7:24 AM
  • *

    Does the Left have no shame....first it was Kathy Griffin and a head of President Trump and now Snoop Dog's album cover.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 9:28 AM
  • -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 10:13 AM
  • *

    Snoop Dog is what he is.... a low life piece of crap, not worth giving a 2nd thought.

    Screw him and the horse he rode in on.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 10:20 AM
  • *

    Let's see Lettau spin this one. Just out in the news... from the Washington Post - a liberal rag.

    ===

    "Hillary defends Trump dossier, makes dubious claims about its release"

    "Mrs. Clinton Wednesday night acknowledged the dossier was financed by her campaign and the Democratic National Committee."

    Russian Collusion from crooked Hillary!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 12:03 PM
  • *

    Forgot the story link here:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/2/hillary-clinton-defends-trump-dos...

    I'd bet good money Mueller told her that was a conclusion he had reached in his so-called "independent investigation" to help her get ahead of this story and claim it was all legal.

    Russian collusion and social / marxist collusion.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 12:12 PM
  • *

    Here's a math problem:

    Mueller+Clinton money= Hillary innocent of Russian Collusion.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 12:40 PM
  • If all it takes is money, why doesn't President Trump buy his way out of his collusion problems?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 1:04 PM
  • *

    If all it takes is money, why doesn't President Trump buy his way out of his collusion problems? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 1:04 PM

    You're right. All it takes is money and a "D" behind your name and you're good to go.

    Lie, mislead, steal, perjure yourself, have an affair with an intern in the Oval office, etc. like the Clintons and you have zero problems.

    And now even Donna Brazille is talking about how corrupt and bad Hillary Clinton was. And how she used DNC money and influence to stop Bernie - a fellow democrat.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 1:50 PM
  • Grand jury proceedings are secret so who leaked that charges were to be filed before hand? Muller and his cronies have a history of grandstanding, leaks and political motivation.

    It's still all about getting Trump with democrats.

    Did anyone hear the former first lady talking on camera lately. Maybe someone can explain what the hell she was talking about.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 2:33 PM
  • *

    If all it takes is money, why doesn't President Trump buy his way out of his collusion problems?

    Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu,Nov 2, 

    Common: Simple, why waste good money when you innocent of collusion with the Russians. Now Hillary's collusion is another thing. Have a good night snowflake.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 4:45 PM
  • Don't think Trump has any collusion problems.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 5:23 PM
  • Then explain why he had a private meeting with the Russian foreign minister and their ambassador in the Oval Office right after getting sworn in?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 5:58 PM
  • Let me tell you how it will be

    There's one for you, nineteen for me

    Should five per cent appear too small

    Be thankful I don't take it all

    If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

    If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

    If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

    If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

    'Cause I'm the taxman

    ~~ Beatles

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 6:26 PM
  • If Russia helped Trump win why did Clinton have the most votes ? The collusion story is getting so stale .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 6:29 PM
  • Did anyone here have a Russian with them in their voting booth ? I didn't .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 6:30 PM
  • *

    Then explain why he had a private meeting with the Russian foreign minister and their ambassador in the Oval Office right after getting sworn in? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 5:58 PM

    Because he is president of the United States. You are such a joke. Is this what you've fallen to? The president of the United States meets with Russians?

    Why don't you simply come back and post when you have something beyond a 2nd grade comment?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 7:09 PM
  • *

    I understand the house has put forth their version of the proposed tax bill. Felt sure that Ulrich would have had time to critique it by now, and had given us his version of what those wascally wepublicans were up to.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 7:34 PM
  • Ralph, They are taking away Ulrich's TriCare and giving it to the MooChelle Me Too Foundation for public education.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 7:51 PM
  • *

    Richard

    Ulrich was spouting that the Republican Tax plan had 1.5 Trillion deficient spending attached.

    I was at a meeting this evening on taxes and long term estate planning. A respected attorney made the statement that the 1.5 Trillion was over 10 years. And Ulrich who has supported Obama who spent nearly 10 Trillion more than we took in.... in just 8 years was ok with that. No question about it, Ulrich is a phony and a fraud. A true Democratic hack.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 8:30 PM
  • Wheels, My only worry is the republicans will agree to limit the time frame for the Corporate tax and new rules about monies brought back to appease some democrats to get their votes. Businesses don't make major changes without a long term assurance things won't change back in the next election cycle. As far as tax cuts for the rich, that is just die hard democrats repeating the only thing that has worked in the past to make themselves Wealthy at the expense of the people they oppress.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 9:26 PM
  • *

    Richard

    One of my worries is that this is far from finished, and what we receive ia a watered down nothing just to get the votes to pass it. The Senate version is due next week I believe and then they will go to work on producing a final version.

    That in addition to what you mention, which is definitely a problem.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 9:42 PM
  • Can't remember where I read it but someone put out a list of congress people that came to D.C. with little wealth and never had a real job outside politics and are now worth millions. Something wrong with that picture.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 10:06 PM
  • The USA has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world and can't be competitive , it's a reason China gets most of the industry because they're around 20% .

    So who pays for China's Communism ? Who pays for the European Nation's Socialism?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 10:18 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 10:06 PM

    Someone needs to put together a list of Presidents who have done the same thing. Don't know about Bush I & II, I think they had money. But how about the Clintons and the Obamas? Nobodys from nowhere and now they're millionaires.

    The Clintons left the White House flat broke according to Hillary and now they are worth in the neighborhood of a quarter of a billion (with a "b") dollars as I read. What kind of job did they hold that earned them that?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 11:09 PM
  • What about Obama's white house meetings with Islamic leaders Mr common?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 2, 2017, at 11:44 PM
  • For this country is moving and it must not stop. It cannot stop. For this is a time for courage and a time for challenge. Neither conformity nor complacency will do. Neither the fanatics nor the faint-hearted are needed. And our duty as a party is not to our party alone, but to the Nation, and, indeed., to all mankind. Our duty is not merely the preservation of political power but the preservation of peace and freedom.

    So let us not be petty when our cause is so great. Let us not quarrel amongst ourselves when our Nation's future is at stake. Let us stand together with renewed confidence in our cause--united in our heritage of the past and our hopes for the future--and determined that this land we love shall lead all mankind into new frontiers of peace and abundance.

    John F. Kennedy , Undelivered Speech

    Austin , Texas

    November 22, 1963

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:35 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • You're right, he probably did meet at some time with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

    However, President Trump's private meeting with the Russian Ambassador to the US and the Russian Foreign Minister took place in the Oval Office on May 10th. At which time he proudly informed them that he'd fired the "nut-job" Comey, and so now the "Russian" pressure was off of him.

    So what was the date of the meeting you were referring to, and exactly who did President Obama have a private meeting with?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:45 AM
  • *

    "At which time he proudly informed them that he'd fired the "nut-job" Comey, and so now the "Russian" pressure was off of him."

    Really now Ulrich..... you know that's what he said, or you just making it up as you go?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • *

    However, President Trump's private meeting with the Russian Ambassador to the US and the Russian Foreign Minister took place in the Oval Office on May 10th.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:45 AM

    The president meets with foreign leaders. Such a weak deflection attempt on your part.

    You don't want to discuss the latest news of illegal Clinton activity in YOUR party do you? Or Donna Brazille's investigation into the Clinton money moving of the party during the primary and the Clinton / Wasserman-Schultz manipulating the primary against Bernie Sanders.

    Deflection, deflection, deflection. The president meeting with a Russian ambassador. I wonder if Obama ever met with the Russian ambassador? Hmm...

    "With Democrats and their aides in the media insisting that even daring to meet with a Russian official is somehow a fireable offense, a look at visitor logs of the White House during Barack Obama’s presidency reveals Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak visited Obama or his operatives at least 22 times."

    ===

    Oh what a tangled web you weave when you practice to deceive Lettau...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:59 AM
  • Just because you and you SO friends constantly make things up, does not mean I do. I don’t.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

    WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

    Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”

    (Note: That was then)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:03 AM
  • I thought the whole uproar has been Russia meddling into America's voting system and the threat of it's affect on America's Democracy .

    Why wouldn't any investigation cover the entire voting system , all candidates who ran for election , instead of just focusing on one single entity . The entity which received the least amount of votes , no less .

    The President at the time of the campaign during the elections openly admitted he knew of Russian hacking and warned Putin to knock it off , odd how nothing has been said or included in the grand investigation of it all too .

    Stop wasting time on the fairy tale and get back to work , what a huge waste of American tax dollars...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:12 AM
  • *

    "a look at visitor logs of the White House during Barack Obama’s presidency reveals Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak visited Obama or his operatives at least 22 times.""

    In the oval office??? Surely not. He probably just talked to them briefly at the door before he sent them on their way.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • Comey was the Democrats biggest enemy during the e-mails before the election .

    Now Comey is the Democrats biggest hero after the election .

    Stop the fairy tale and get back to work ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:16 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:03 AM

    Ulrich, Ulrich first this was a highly secret meeting, now you are telling us there was at least one other party present to report to the press.

    Clarification needed, you're speaking in riddles.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • *

    Sounds like Ulrich holds the Oval Office as a place of reverence where only a few should be allowed to enter.

    Sounds like he has a short memory. Probably has forgotten Bill and Monica used it like a cheap motel room.

    Then along comes Barack and it is a place where he could relax and put his feet on the people's furniture.

    Convenient memory lapses I suspect.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:26 AM
  • according to a document summarizing the meeting.

    .....................

    What document by which New York Times official ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:29 AM
  • Why all the investigation into somebody who received the less amount of votes ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:32 AM
  • *

    Poor ole Common and the rest of the Dependent Democrats was betrayed by their DNC and Hillary against Crazy Bernie....didn't President Trump state that during the election process. Also, another truth from Trump comes to light in the fact that the Russian dossier was paid for by Hillary to dig up truths or falsehoods against the winner of the election President Trump....it's that Russian collusion with Hillary and the DNC. Where's Mueller and his team of investigators.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:52 AM
  • *

    Poor Lettau...

    -the only collusion with Russia now seems to be Hillary

    -the DNC illegally allowed candidate Hillary to manipulate finances, etc. to defeat their own candidate Sanders - according to the DNC

    -the Green Bay Packers are barely .500 this year

    -a true, REAL HERO, who deserves our respect for his disability in service of his country refuses to attend an NFL game to receive a reward because Lettau's democrat friends continue to kneel and disrespect the flag and country

    ===

    Bad week for Lettau. His own party says he's lying. Just like Obama contradicted him so many times.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:07 AM
  • Trump claims his tax breaks will add $1.4 trillion dollars to the debt . It doesn't matter if it's 1 year , 5 years , or 10 years , it's still a $1.4 trillion addition instead off subtraction .

    If his tax break makes the USA more competitive and brings more Corporations to the USA it seems like there would be a subtraction to the National debt , not a gain . Somehow less equals more doesn't make sense to me .

    Besides , aren't conservatives all about saving and/or earning money ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:29 AM
  • *

    Democrat John F. Kennedy cut taxes across the board and the deficit dropped dramatically:

    "Many lawmakers worried that reducing taxes without cutting spending would create unacceptable budget deficits. But Kennedy, who famously noted that "a rising tide lifts all boats," insisted tax cuts would generate broad-based growth.

    Congress finally approved the tax cuts in early 1964, three months after Kennedy's assassination. The following fiscal year, the federal budget deficit did indeed shrink. Stock investors loved it. Between 1962 and 1966, the Dow Jones industrial average nearly doubled."

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:43 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:29 AM

    Rick,

    Too many freeloaders on the government teat. That eventually will have to be addressed. Citizens should not be making long term plans on freebies.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 7:06 PM
  • Looks like Bergdahl got away with a slap on the wrist. Nice example for for the next soldier having mood swings.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:30 PM
  • *

    DA

    Just look upon it as something else Obama was allowed to add to his legacy by turning loose 5 Terrorists we had in captivity. Free to return to battle and kill American soldiers.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:00 PM
  • Wheels

    I agree . But spending $1.4 trillion on dead beats , if that's what's happening , sounds kind of high to me . Cutting taxes to end up losing $1.4 trillion doesn't sound like a good deal in the long run . Cut spending on stupid stuff , set priorities and stick with it . Go back to monthly commodities , make those dead beats work on infrastructure , there has to be a way to cut subsidies somewhere too .

    Why cut taxes only to end up oweing money , where's the positive ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:09 PM
  • Looks like Bergdahl got away with a slap on the wrist. Nice example for for the next soldier having mood swings.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 8:30 PM

    Make him go back and finish out his enlistment and then add community service when he's done . He has to be held responsible for his actions ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:12 PM
  • -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:43 AM

    John F. Kennedy also said stop the petty arguments .

    "Let us not seek the Democrat answer or the Republican answer . Let us seek the right answer."

    ~~ John F. Kenedy

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 9:20 PM
  • I'm thinking when and if all this tax reform gets done the size of that post card is going to be big. Republicans have a short window to get back to the original idea of meaningful tax cuts for the working Joe and tax cuts on corporations without accepting watered down ideas from the left. The estate tax and deductions for property tax and state/local income taxes can be corrected later once the economy continues to improve.

    Sessions put himself in a corner when he tried to make nice with democrats by vowing to stay out of the Clinton/Russia crimes.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 10:31 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 10:31 PM

    Sessions needs to tell them he had his fingers crossed and he didn't really mean it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 3, 2017, at 10:53 PM
  • I think there are a lot of things that should be encouraged by tax policy but a basic incentive for small business to invest and grow is important now. So is easing regulation and taxes that drive large manufacturing out of our country.

    Beyond that we waste enough money on stupid stuff to pay for incentive programs that help middle class families lower utilities, upgrade job skills and so many others.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 6:27 AM
  • *

    Dang, you're up early.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 6:36 AM
  • Wheels, Not sure, the numbers on my clocks here are visible only to her until much later in the day, :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 6:49 AM
  • I'm not sure why the Feds are getting involved with the state/local income taxes .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 7:13 AM
  • "Only the White man believes a foot can be cut off the top of a blanket and added onto the bottom of the blanket to make it longer."

    ~~ Oscho

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 7:19 AM
  • Beyond that we waste enough money on stupid stuff to pay for incentive programs that help middle class families lower utilities, upgrade job skills and so many others.

    ..............

    Isn't this why there's a Corporate Tax break , incentives ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 7:40 AM
  • The Government can not give anything to anybody without taking something from somebody .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 7:47 AM
  • *

    The Government can not give anything to anybody without taking something from somebody .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 7:47 AM

    A fact! But they justify it by deciding someone has too much.... so it is ok to take it away.

    Corporate taxes are a joke. Corporations don't really pay taxes, they just collect them for the government.

    The consumers of goods and services pay the taxes in the pricing on what they consumer.

    But it does sound good to hear some politician shouting about taxing those evil corporations that hire you.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 8:05 AM
  • When taxes are raised Corporations add the costs to the consumer , is it safe to say prices of goods will go down ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM
  • *

    When H. W. Bush and congress doubled the excise tax on beer from $9/barrel to $18/barrel in 1990 breweries did exactly what they had to do. They passed it on to the consumers.

    It hurt sales, which hurt jobs and taxes up and down the entire distribution chain (suppliers, brewers, wholesalers, etc.). Which reduced the effective value of the $18/barrel to much lower.

    Publicly traded companies have a responsibility to their shareholders and can only increase the value for them if profits rise. Corporate taxes are paid by consumers.

    Always have been, always will be.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 10:00 AM
  • *

     is it safe to say prices of goods will go down ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM

    In cases where there is healthy competition yes. In cases where crooked politicians have allowed themselves to be bribed by lobbyists into allowing some industries to become virtual monopolies... no. JMO

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 10:28 AM
  • My humble opinion , it's progressives

    Wal-mart came along and started putting JC Penny , Sears , Macys and the like out of business . Then Wal-Mart went rural and started putting mom & pop's in towns out of business . Now Amazon is coming along and putting the heat on Wal-Mart .

    Progressives , billionaire progressives .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 1:46 PM
  • Seems like Lobbyist are a conflict of interest .

    The Government works for the People , not for Industry and theirselves .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 2:12 PM
  • Oh crap! Trump may meet with Putin before he returns. Surely that is reason to turn over the presidency to the rightfully intended next in line.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 9:09 PM
  • Wondering if their is an amendment to the Japanese constitution concerning Self defense forces in the future.

    Trump gave a great speech on the base that shares the letters of a city and a car company.

    I'm sure Lettau will have a counter to the speech as soon as the talking points are agreed on.

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    Why would you think that, since SO conservatives have their talking points from Limbaugh and Hanity? What part of Trumps Jibberish do you think will Make America Great as it was under Obama More SO conservative flawed logic.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 4, 2017, at 10:57 PM
  • "Progressives , billionaire progressives."

    Is that right?

    When businesses drive each other out of business, I'm pretty sure it called capitalism. And it works fine if your company has the gold, as in the capitalist "golden rule" which reads,"he who has the gold rules."

    Must have something to do with why the conservatives want to bestow more "gold" on the 1%.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:29 AM
  • "Trump gave a great speech..."

    Actually it's more likely that he gives a "great speech" when someone writes it for him, puts it on a teleprompter and he reads it verbatim.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:35 AM
  • When businesses drive each other out of business, I'm pretty sure it called capitalism. And it works fine if your company has the gold, as in the capitalist "golden rule" which reads,"he who has the gold rules."

    Must have something to do with why the conservatives want to bestow more "gold" on the 1%.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:29 AM

    Not always . Get the right greedy Lobbyist politician on your payroll helps too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:56 AM
  • Like Health Care Insurance .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:57 AM
  • Either way puts a lot of People out of work .

    Lowering Corporate Taxes makes the assumption Corporations and Industry will comeback to the USA again , which is yet to be seen , there are no commitments . If they do , they will have to deal with OSHA , the EPA , HAZMAT , Inventory as Asset tax , overhead costs , and Dept. of Labor Regulations . Will the tax breaks off set the costs of these issues might be a question or decision any Corporation or Industry have to determine .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:14 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • *

    "Trump gave a great speech..."

    Actually it's more likely that he gives a "great speech" when someone writes it for him, puts it on a teleprompter and he reads it verbatim.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:35 AM

    Common: You didn't have a problem when King Obama did it, did you....hypocrite!

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • *

    "Trump gave a great speech..."

    Actually it's more likely that he gives a "great speech" when someone writes it for him, puts it on a teleprompter and he reads it verbatim.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:35 AM

    I am really surprised that you would want to go there. After 8 years of listening to stutterbug when the teleprompter failed or when he got caught off guard with an unscheduled question from the crowd. Would you like to have us play some of that embarrassment back to you?

    I have never heard Trump stand and stutter for a lack of something to say.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:23 AM
  • *

    Must have something to do with why the conservatives want to bestow more "gold" on the 1%.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:29 AM

    Nobody wants to "bestow" anything on anybody. They must earn it.

    You do understand that people of all classes own these "evil" corporations I would hope. Retirement funds are also invested in them.

    There is always going to be class distinctions Ulrich. Even in your planned for Communistic setting there is the elite ruling class and the poor peons.

    Just because you didn't reach what was your desired and expected level in society doesn't give you the right to despise and hate those who were smart enough to make it.

    Wealth envy, like all envy, is despicable.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • Former DNC head Donna Brazile says she considered replacing Clinton with Biden as nominee

    By Philip Rucker , Washington Post

    Former Democratic National Committee head Donna Brazile writes in a new book that she seriously contemplated setting in motion a process to replace Hillary Clinton as the party's 2016 presidential nominee with then-Vice President Joe Biden in the aftermath of Clinton's fainting spell, in part because Clinton's campaign was "anemic" and had taken on "the odor of failure."

    In an explosive new memoir, Brazile details widespread dysfunction and dissension throughout the Democratic Party, including secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the process of removing Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine, Va., from the ticket after Clinton's Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.

    Brazile alleges that Clinton's top aides routinely disrespected her and put the DNC on a "starvation diet," depriving it of funding for voter turnout operations.

    As one of her party's most prominent black strategists, Brazile also recounts fiery disagreements with Clinton's staffers - including a conference call in which she told three senior campaign officials, Charlie Baker, Marlon Marshall and Dennis Cheng, that she was being treated like a slave.

    "I'm not Patsey the slave," Brazile recalls telling them, a reference to the character played by Lupita Nyong'o in the film, "12 Years a Slave." "Y'all keep whipping me and whipping me and you never give me any money or any way to do my **** job. I am not going to be your whipping girl!"

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donna-brazile-hillary...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:47 AM
  • "...did it, did you..."

    Why should I object to tele-prompters?

    The problem that President Trump has is that's the only time he sounds "presidential." And as a candidate, he's the one that wanted them outlawed. Good the he didn't get his way.

    President Obama had always participated in the preparation of his speeches. Pausing to put the right answer together is highly preferable over blurting out the first vague tweet that pops into your head.

    Comparing the impromptu comments and answers between the two makes our current President appear as a kindergartener.

    What you seem to be unaware of and incapable of accepting, is that with President Obama we had a President that was presidential. With President Trump we have a President that very infrequently can act presidential, rather than being actually being presidential. Acting is as close he gets.

    That's my opinion, and you're welcome to disagree, but that doesn't alter the facts.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:47 AM
  • *

    That's my opinion, and you're welcome to disagree, but that doesn't alter the facts.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:47 AM

    Don't try passing that drivel off as facts Ulrich. That is your opinion.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:53 AM
  • *

    puts it on a teleprompter and he reads it verbatim. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 6:35 AM

    Why should I object to tele-prompters? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:47 AM

    ===

    Just another one of your posts dripping with a lie and hypocrisy. You use "teleprompter" to criticize Trump. When someone mentions "Obama" and "teleprompter" you dismiss it.

    You can't even keep track of your own words. No surprise when you practice to deceive.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:05 AM
  • *

    President Obama had always participated in the preparation of his speeches. Pausing to put the right answer together is highly preferable over blurting out the first vague tweet that pops into your head.- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:47 AM

    Common: And you know this how. Oh thats right you hanged on to every word that came out of his golden voice just like a true brained washed Dependent Democrat that you are.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:24 AM
  • "...and you hanged on to every word..."

    And you know this how?

    Of course I did not "hang on to every word." But I heard more than enough to be able to differentiate between their speaking styles and talents.

    If don't see the difference, you're not paying attention.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:35 AM
  • *

    If don't see the difference, you're not paying attention. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:35 AM

    "I don't know, I've been to something like 57 states..." - Barack Obama off the teleprompter

    "Hang on sweetie" - Barack Obama off the teleprompter

    "R S P E C T" - Barack Obama off the teleprompter

    "When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..." - Barack Obama off teleprompter in Hawaii - not Asia

    "... Navy CORPSE man ..." - Barack Obama off teleprompter

    "The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." - Barack Obama off teleprompter

    "you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." - Barack Obama off teleprompter

    ===

    If you don't see the similarity, you're back to worshipping your god and messiah again. You're such a sucker for political worship of people in power.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 3:02 PM
  • *

    "...and you hanged on to every word..."

    And you know this how?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:35 AM

    Common: I know this due to your history of posts on this forum and your idolizing the ex-President Obama.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM
  • I would seriously challenge you to find one post where I "idolized" President Obama.

    You will find several where I criticized his actions or his positions.

    You will find many where I defended him against invalid accusations, or refuted silly claims made by the SO conservative clan.

    I have no idea what you mean by "idolizing." Defending an American President against unwarranted slander is not "idolizing" and could be better described as being patriotic.

    So give it a rest. You and your SO conservative gang have no idea what you're talking adout.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:55 PM
  • "But I heard more than enough to be able to differentiate between their speaking styles and talents."

    I'll take Content of Character and love of country with a goal of improvements over silver tongue week kneed double speak and phony patriotism.

    Obama even used the kindergarten excuse of Christians started it first to defend Islamic Terrorism. Must be part of his Sweetest sound he knows ideology of Special Olympics. What a loser.

    And ain't it nice to have a first lady with some class!

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:13 PM
  • Ulrich, Seems to me your whole purpose in posting is to bash the president and defend Obama. Give it a rest, your not very good at it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:19 PM
  • *

    If don't see the difference, you're not paying attention.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 11:35 AM

    Ulrich,

    I read where Obama had input on what went into his speeches not help write them. He had a speechwriter that had been writing speechs for him for years that moved from Chicago to Washington to continue.

    You make up this crap as you go along.

    What makes you think Trump had no input into his speech that you criticized?

    So far as defending Obama. When someone catches him in an outright lie you defend him. When we accused him of something really stupid you defended him. If I remember correctly when he and the crook from Chicago got into gun running you defended him.

    I would liken your trying to polish his image to trying to wipe down your automobile in a dust storm.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:19 PM
  • Wheels, You left out the kerasine rag.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:28 PM
  • Make that 'kerosene'

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:31 PM
  • *

    Oooops posted on an old thread what I meant for here.

    Ulrich,

    I hae just found an example of your idol with a broken teleprompter. Sounds very Presidential doesn't he. I believe you will be able to watch a better example of presidential following the Obama speech. If all goes well here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulDv-hs5unI

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:40 PM
  • *

    Make that 'kerosene'

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:31 PM

    :-)

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 8:44 PM
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    I would seriously challenge you to find one post where I "idolized" President Obama. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:55 PM

    You asked for it... you got it. Took about 10 seconds of time. Comparing an insult to Obama as EQUAL in quality and class to an insult to a God.

    In quality or in class, I’d say it’s right up there with the guy that put a figure of Christ in a jar of urine and insanely called it art. The “cartoon” is equally obscene, pornographic, detached from reality, and devoid of any decency. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Apr 23, 2016, at 11:43 AM

    Seek help Ulrich.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 9:18 PM
  • Careful Doug, We don't want common to leave and take the entertainment value of the forums with him.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • 8 years ago on this day was the Ft.Hood massacre . Life is a circle , what has happened before will happen again .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 9:25 PM
  • *

    I have no idea what you mean by "idolizing." Defending an American President against unwarranted slander is not "idolizing" and could be better described as being patriotic.

    So give it a rest. You and your SO conservative gang have no idea what you're talking adout.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 7:55 PM

    Common: Do you ever read your comments before posting them? If not you need to start because you are making a fool of yourself once again.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 9:37 PM
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    We don't want common to leave and take the entertainment value of the forums with him. -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 9:25 PM

    That's funny you would bring that up Richard. Entertainment is exactly why I come here. And Lettau never, ever disappoints. I laugh and then repeat his comments to others who laugh as well. And it only takes minutes a day to keep him confused and confounded. :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:05 PM
  • I tuned off the news a couple hours ago, Nothing but want to sound important so called experts speculating what happened in Texas today. It will take a while for some democrat to insinuate it was caused by Trump hate before the details are reported.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:29 PM
  • *

    What Nationality was the shooter? Islamic American, English America, African American, Dutch American, Mexican American......

    Trying to be politically correct and certainly not offend anybody.

    I have heard very little about it. Had a busy day, went to Church, attended the Church Sausage Dinner, bought some sausage and other goodies and had to come home and vacuum pack it all for the freezer. Haven't had much time for the talking heads.

    I suppose spomebody's gun jumped off the shelf and went into full combat readiness all by itself again.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:44 PM
  • Ralph, Next we will hear about how he was able to get a gun designed and sold for one purpose, to kill people. There Otta be a law.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 5, 2017, at 10:55 PM
  • Trump: 'Mental health' is the issue behind the Texas shooting, not guns

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/06/trump-mental-health-issu...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:32 AM
  • "...take the entertainment value of the forums with him."

    Now and again you really can come up with something humorous. Think maybe that "entertainment value" is somewhat of a double-edged sword.

    It's a case of receiving a level of satisfaction in at least offering the facts to counter rampant conservative misconceptions on SO.

    A good example is this...

    "If I remember correctly when he and the crook from Chicago got into gun running you defended him."

    In fact Mr. VanGennip remembers precious little correctly, nevertheless, the facts are that the program was an extension of "Wide Receiver" and had the same goal of identifying arms routes to and recipients in Mexico. The NRA imposed restrictions on government coordination with legitimate arms dealers is what actually necessitated such a convoluted system.

    It had nothing to do with defending a "gun-running" scheme, but, it is likely that Mr. VanGennip will not permit the truth to undermine his preconceived narrative.

    Like they always say, "you can lead a conservative to facts and the truth, but you can't force him the understand or accept them."

    If I remember correctly, the last time I mentioned that proverb, I was mildly rebuked by SH for "making fun" of conservatives. So this time, I apologize in advance.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:45 AM
  • In Africa , some fool shoots a lion and it's the shooters fault . In America , some fool shoots another person and it's the guns fault .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:46 AM
  • Rick Lettau

    Would this be Operation Fast and Furious ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:52 AM
  • And here's one more little gem that is typical of SO conservative logic and reasoning...

    "Just because you didn't reach what was your desired and expected level in society doesn't give you the right to despise and hate those who were smart enough to make it."

    Seriously, how would Mr. VanGennip have any idea of what my "desired and expected level in society" was or is?

    Or why would he believe I "despise and hate" anyone who was "smart enough to make it."

    And I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that he is talking about himself when referring to "those smart enough."

    The truth is that I am perfectly satisfied and happy with what I have done and my "level in society." I don't despise and hate anyone. And if Mr. VanGennip truly is one of those "smart enough to make it," I congratulate him on his achievement.

    I'd suggest that this is the difference between his conservative outlook on other people, and my respectful, liberal outlook on others.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:01 AM
  • What Nationality was the shooter? Islamic American, English America, African American, Dutch American, Mexican American......

    .................

    American , USA

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:01 AM
  • "...shoots another person and it's the guns fault."

    Why would you think that? Clearly it was the fault of the person that pulled the trigger, but do you actually believe that the guy could have killed all of those people with his bare hands?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:05 AM
  • Free Speech is a basic human Right which is meaningless if it's not heard .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:06 AM
  • Rick Lettau

    The gun was the choice of destruction and terror . Other methods work and are available , Oklahoma City and Bath , Michigan for example .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:10 AM
  • Or 9/11

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:11 AM
  • Nice job there Barack !!

    ...................

    Saudi Arabia Blames Iran for Attempted Missile Attack on Airport

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/saudi-arabia-blames-iran-for-attempted-miss...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:16 AM
  • *

    Seriously, how would Mr. VanGennip have any idea of what my "desired and expected level in society" was or is? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:01 AM

    Your constant and consistent wealth envy provides a perfect idea of your dissatisfaction and unhappiness in life. Coveting your neighbors goods.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:22 AM
  • There is more to life then $$$$$$ ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:26 AM
  • *

    " The NRA imposed restrictions on government coordination with legitimate arms dealers is what actually necessitated such a convoluted system."

    Please elaborate on this one Ulrich. I am having a problem getting my head wrapped around "NRA imposed restrictions on government"

    I have further questions on some of this mornings posting, but will have to wait, got places to be and people to see.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:55 AM
  • "The NRA imposed restrictions on government........."

    Learn something new everyday, didn't know NRA could impose restrictions on government.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 9:05 AM
  • RV, You beat me to it

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM
  • "Learn something new everyday, didn't know NRA could impose restrictions on government."

    Mr. Bess,

    It would be surprising, but nice, if you could think for yourself for a change.

    Supposedly Congress represents the people and more importantly, the will of the people. So since about 80% of Americans favor stricter gun laws, you would think that they would pass in Congress easily, on a bi-partisan basis.

    Oops, think again. When it comes to gun laws, the NRA has a stronger hold on Congress than people do. The people want action, and Congress sends prayers.

    Recall what has happened so often in the past, after a shooting massacre, the NRA stays mute, but mails letters to members saying in effect, "the government is going to take all your guns away, send us money so we can buy more Congressmen!"

    Do you now understand how the NRA imposes restrictions on government?

    http://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-in...

    “Poll: Majorities Of Both Parties Favor Increased Gun Restrictions...'

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:12 AM
  • *

    “Poll: Majorities Of Both Parties Favor Increased Gun Restrictions...'

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:12 AM

    I find that a little hard to swallow. Maybe you would provide the link to your information.

    Does this pie in the sky 80% wang gun law as you Leftist

    Socialist/Communists want them?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:22 AM
  • *

    "80% want"

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:43 AM
  • Anyone not parroting Shumerisms on a daily basis knows the federal government couldn't take guns away from Americans even if it is a far left progressive liberal dream to do so. Thus they keep hammering on more federal restrictions.

    The answer to a lot of problem regarding congressional influence could start by requiring all lobbying to be done in the congressional districts and outside of D.C.

    I'll check back later to hear the latest talking point based reply.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 11:11 AM
  • *

    Richard

    Me thinks Ulrich has his numbers bass ackwards if you take into onsideration what his Leftist Socialistic/Communist friends all want.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 11:44 AM
  • "...the federal government couldn't take guns away from Americans..."

    ...and 99% of Americans have no reason to want that and do not want to "take guns away." The only agency that appears to make that claim is the NRA.

    There is widespread support for smarter and better gun control, and after each massacre the republican/conservative response is "now is not the time to talk about gun control."

    So when will the "time" be here? When there is a Sutherland Springs style church shooting ever day, will it be "time?"

    When there are several Newtown School style shootings per week, will it be "time?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM
  • *

    When there is a Sutherland Springs style church shooting ever day, will it be "time?" When there are several Newtown School style shootings per week, will it be "time?" -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM

    Hilarious coming from the weak-kneed liberal that showed little care for terrorist attacks in the US under Obama.

    Are the "dhows" coming up the river to Marble Hill Ricky Lettau? Are you skeered now? Are the gun people knocking on your door?

    Just another example of your hypocrisy.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:24 PM
  • The Texas church shooter was denied government permission to purchase a gun so we need more gun laws.

    Too bad there wasn't some conceal carry NRA members attending that church.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 4:07 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM

    Ulrich,

    Why don't you attack the problem where it lies. At one time we insitutionalized individuals with mental problems. Not so much anymore. It just isn't politically correct to do so. Better to let them mix with the public and commit horrible crimes. Your group is largrly responsible. I charge you and yours with the responsibility to fix the problem.

    Laws aren't going to fix it. We already have enough laws that aren't being paid attention to.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 6:10 PM
  • The last gun control Law Legislation by Congress was voted "nay" by the Democratic Lead Senate led by Harry Reid .

    Shortly there after , Obama shut up regarding gun controls , he did his sobbing deal on the mass media ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 6:29 PM
  • No ties or accusations were made between Harry Reid and the NRA . How can this be so ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 6:31 PM
  • Senate Blocks Drive for Gun Control

    By JONATHAN WEISMAN APRIL 17, 2013

    "It was a striking defeat for one of Mr. Obama’s highest priorities, on an issue that has consumed much of the country since Adam Lanza opened fire with an assault weapon in the halls of Sandy Hook Elementary School in December.

    Faced with a decision either to remove substantial new gun restrictions from the bill or to allow it to fall to a filibuster next week, Senate leaders plan to put it on hold after a scattering of votes Thursday. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader and a longtime gun rights advocate who had thrown himself behind the gun control measures, is expected to pull the bill from the Senate floor and move on to an Internet sales tax measure, then an overhaul of immigration policy, which has better prospects.

    Opponents of gun control from both parties said that they made their decisions based on logic, and that passions had no place in the making of momentous policy."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/us/politics/senate-obama-gun-control.html

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 6:41 PM
  • Yeah , more gun Laws would be the answer...

    ....................

    Texas killer was able to buy guns because of Air Force lapse

    ATLANTA (AP) — The gunman who slaughtered 26 people at a Texas church was able to buy weapons because the Air Force failed to report his domestic-violence conviction to the federal database that is used to conduct background checks on would-be gun purchasers, authorities said Monday.

    Federal officials said the Air Force didn't submit Devin Patrick's Kelley's criminal history even though it was required to do so by Pentagon rules.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/air-force-failed-to-submit-texas-sho...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:01 PM
  • Republicans begin revising U.S. tax bill as Democrats sharpen attacks

    WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Republican lawmakers on Monday began revising their proposed overhaul of the U.S. tax code, as Democrats pointed to the loss of popular deductions as proof the legislation was an assault on the middle class.

    A draft bill unveiled last week by Republicans in the House of Representatives, if enacted, would be the biggest restructuring of the tax system since the 1980s and the first major legislative victory of the Trump presidency.

    Although Republicans generally support the bill's broader themes, including a sharp cut in the corporate income tax, there are rumblings of dissent over other elements, including repeal of the deduction for state and local income tax (SALT) payments.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/facing-pockets-of-dissent-republicans-be...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 7:18 PM
  • *

    When there are several Newtown School style shootings per week, will it be "time?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM

    Common: When will it be time to attack the real problem which is mental health and to stop those crazies from getting guns or taking them away from the crazies before they do harm to others.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 8:47 AM
  • When there are several Newtown School style shootings per week, will it be "time?"

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM

    The daily gang shootings across the Nations don't count , just the lump sum shootings .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 9:14 AM
  • "When will it be time to attack the real problem which is mental health and to stop those crazies from getting guns..."

    Ask Congress. This is what action they took this year...

    "House votes to strike rule banning guns for some deemed mentally impaired"

    Nicole Gaudiano, USA TODAYPublished 4:51 p.m. ET Feb. 2, 2017 | Updated 5:54 p.m. ET Feb. 3, 2017

    "WASHINGTON —The House of Representatives approved its first effort of the new Congress to roll back gun regulations, voting to overturn a rule that would bar gun ownership by some who have been deemed mentally impaired by the Social Security Administration.

    "The House voted 235-180 largely along party lines Thursday to repeal an Obama-era rule requiring the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries to the federal firearms background check system after they’ve been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs.

    The rule, when implemented, would affect about 75,000 recipients of disability insurance and supplemental insurance income who require a representative to manage their benefits because of a disabling mental disorder, ranging from anxiety to schizophrenia. It applies to those between age 18 and full retirement age.

    "Republicans argued the rule, which was vigorously opposed by gun-rights and disability groups, would unfairly stigmatize people with disabilities and strip them of their Second Amendment rights without due process."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/02/02/house-votes-strike-rule-banning-g...

    It appears that Congress and the NRA thinks the way to find "crazies" is to give them guns and see if they shoot a bunch of people.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM
  • *

    It appears that Congress and the NRA thinks the way to find "crazies" is to give them guns and see if they shoot a bunch of people.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM

    And that is about the nuttiest observation you have come up with to date Ulrich.

    I thought the silly season would end when Obama left office, but not so I guess. Who ever told that silly SOB that being incapable of handling your financial affairs made you legally insane in the first place. Doctors should declare people's mental state as unsafe for gun ownership, not the Social Security Administration.

    Ulrich, there is more proof you have your head buried in a dark place so far as Obama is concerned. If he dictated it, you will defend it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:27 AM
  • *

    Ask Congress. This is what action they took this year... "House votes to strike rule banning guns for some deemed mentally impaired"-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM

    And what did your beloved democrats do for all the years they controlled congress?

    That's what I thought.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:43 AM
  • Mr. VanGennip,

    Are you always so totally dense, or do you just save your foolishness for display on SO?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:04 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM

    The next President and Congress can change it to whatever they want too . Obama was a Band-Aid , what happens now will be a Band-Aid . The bottom line , current Laws were not enforced , what is the purpose of adding even more Laws that could be over looked or ignored when the current Laws are .

    That Roof dude shot up a church , the one where Obama gave the eulogy . It was turned into a racist issue , remember ? The Laws weren't enforced on that shooting either , what lesson was learned , what action did Obama take , and now this shooting is all on Trump and the NRA .

    Why wasn't Harry Reid connected to the NRA when he decided to kill the Gun Control Bill . What possible good can come from finger pointing ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:12 AM
  • Rick Lettau

    Will you volunteer to go door to door and confiscate the People's weapons ? Before you decide , remember , 2 dudes chased this shooter down and shoot him with their own weapons .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:23 AM
  • Trump has been over there a while now; When will he start apologizing for America's part in global affairs?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:30 AM
  • *

    Mr. VanGennip,

    Are you always so totally dense, or do you just save your foolishness for display on SO?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:04 AM

    When you have nothing, zip, zero to respond with, hurl and insult Ulrich.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:32 AM
  • *

    Trump has been over there a while now; When will he start apologizing for America's part in global affairs?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:30 AM

    Richard,

    I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Hi Ho, Hi Ho, it's off to see the shoulder therapist I go.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:34 AM
  • *

    it appears that Congress and the NRA thinks the way to find "crazies" is to give them guns and see if they shoot a bunch of people.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM

    Common: Your link is dated 2/2/17 and a lot has happen to just maybe bring the debate back again concerning mental heath and gun control. IMO, doctors should be the ones determining if a person is fit to own/purchase guns with the person having the right to appeal the decision.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:37 AM
  • Trump has been over there a while now; When will he start apologizing for America's part in global affairs?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:30 AM

    Nikki Haley for President

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:42 AM
  • There are many Governor and Mayor elections today , Virginia , New Jersey , New York City , Florida , etc...

    Trump is backing and supporting one candidate , Obama has crawled out of the wood work and is supporting the other .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:56 AM
  • These are the races to watch on Election Day 2017

    http://www.businessinsider.com/election-day-2017-big-races-2017-11/#-1

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 11:59 AM
  • "...doctors should be the ones determining if a person is fit to own/purchase guns with the person having the right to appeal the decision."

    You could interpret that as meaning that before you go to the gun store, you have to get a note from a doctor.

    I realize that's not what you meant, but that seems to be the direction you're heading.

    Unfortunately the way things are now, the time people begin thinking about keeping guns from the mentally ill, they've already done something. That's what I was sarcastically referring to before.

    Clearly it's a serious issue, but when the President says that we don't have a "gun problem," we have a "mental health problem," what's he going to do about identifying those with the mental health problem? Most likely nothing,because "it's not time to talk about it."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • "When you have nothing..."

    It wasn't an insult, just a simple question. I would guess that your answer would have been no.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:55 PM
  • "Will you volunteer to go door to door and confiscate the People's weapons?"

    When have I ever suggested that people's weapons should be confiscated?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:57 PM
  • *

    You could interpret that as meaning that before you go to the gun store, you have to get a note from a doctor.

    I realize that's not what you meant, but that seems to be the direction you're heading.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:51 PM

    Common: My comment was in response to your link....I'm reffering to mental health professionals who are treating those with "issues". Same data entry such as what is now being done with those guilty of spouse/child abuse.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 1:01 PM
  • *

    Ulrich,

    Guess away Little Man, you have no knowledge of the situation.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 1:21 PM
  • *

    Clearly it's a serious issue, but when the President says that we don't have a "gun problem," we have a "mental health problem," what's he going to do about identifying those with the mental health problem? Most likely nothing,because "it's not time to talk about it."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:51 PM

    Hopefully Ulrich, he will do something that makes more sense than classifying a group of people who are no longer capable of handling their own finances but capable of normal life otherwise as mentally ill like the last loser did.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 1:27 PM
  • "Will you volunteer to go door to door and confiscate the People's weapons?"

    When have I ever suggested that people's weapons should be confiscated?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:57 PM

    You haven't , not in so many words . What would your suggestion be ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 5:18 PM
  • Texas church shooting: Gunman escaped from mental health facility in 2012

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/07/texas-church-shooting-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 6:01 PM
  • If you don't Sin Jesus Christ died for nothing . The man Sinned ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 6:52 PM
  • *

    Let me see if I understand this. The shooter was known to have been a mental case but our government does not have that in their data base. For what reason would they fail to do this?

    People running around on our streets with a loose screw not on the government's no sell list, no problem.... and people like Ulrich all bent put of shape because some people who can no longer balance a checkbook are not on the list.

    Makes one wonder how many other true problem individuals are not being watched.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 7:24 PM
  • The military felt no urgency to report since Obama's justus dept seldom enforced the laws or followed up on the reports.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:12 PM
  • Wheels

    Another case of current Laws not being enforced . There is no reason or logic to add more , the odds will be even greater for Laws to not be enforced or missed .

    Start with square one , enforce the Law .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:35 PM
  • The Democrats swept all of the elections today except for Utah .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:36 PM
  • First openly transgender state legislator elected in Virginia

    .......

    Virginia House of Delegates candidate Danica Roem (D) has defeated longtime Del. Robert Marshall (R), becoming Virginia's first openly transgender elected official, according to The Washington Post.

    Roem's win in Virginia's 13th District also means she is poised to become the first openly transgender person to be elected and seated in a state legislature, advocates say.

    Her win comes alongside Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam's (D) victory in the governor's race Tuesday, the first major victory for Democrats since President Trump took office earlier this year.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/first-openly-transgender-state-legislato...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:10 AM
  • http://www.statisticbrain.com/american-family-financial-statistics/

    According to Mr Lettau's post yesterday about the SSA deciding a persons right to own a firearm the above link shows very few if anyone would qualify. Then again no one in Congress should either when considering its history of money mismanagement.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM
  • *

    Lettau is scared to death that gun owners are coming up Crooked Creek to Marble Hill in their dhows to get him.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:17 AM
  • *

    Lettau is scared to death that gun owners are coming up Crooked Creek to Marble Hill in their dhows to get him.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:17 AM

    Dug: I would make it up the Crooked Creek as far as Jer's Restaurant and then stop.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:45 AM
  • *

    I would make it up the Crooked Creek as far as Jer's Restaurant and then stop. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:45 AM

    Been there, done that! Good stuff. :-)

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:54 AM
  • *

    Another so-called "racist incident" is debunked. Remember the Air Force Academy letter written by a cadet that threatened blacks at the academy? Guess what? It was written by one of the "victims" - a black cadet.

    I remember the Academy superintendent on TV forcing cadets to stand for long periods and chastising them all and I was thinking - "You better be right buddy because you are all in that this was a white person that did this." He had ZERO evidence of who it was and he went on to rip the cadets and go on and on about racism.

    But it was revealed today that a black cadet wrote it and is now gone. I wonder if the idiot superintendent feels good today about his knee-jerk reaction to a fake incident and punishing/threatening all the other cadets.

    More examples of Lettau's ideology and punishing the innocent.

    ===

    "A racist message posted outside an Air Force Academy dorm in September was written by one of the alleged victims, the school confirmed Tuesday, casting blaring initial coverage of the incident -- which lauded the school superintendent's forceful reaction in an apparent bid to ding President Trump -- in a new light."

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 10:59 AM
  • “very few if anyone would qualify.”

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 8:55 AM

    It would seem that some were unable to accept what the link actually says. The issue is clearly not one of “inability to balance a checkbook” or about the SSA deciding “who can buy a gun.” The individuals involved have required an outside representative or agent designated to manage their benefits. It would not apply to about 99 % of American families or individuals involved.

    Here’s a bit more of what it said…

    “The rule, when implemented, would affect about 75,000 recipients of disability insurance and supplemental insurance income who require a representative to manage their benefits because of a disabling mental disorder, ranging from anxiety to schizophrenia. It applies to those between age 18 and full retirement age.

    “Republicans argued the rule, which was vigorously opposed by gun-rights and disability groups, would unfairly stigmatize people with disabilities and strip them of their Second Amendment rights without due process.

    “This is a slap in the face for those in the disabled community because it paints all those who suffer from mental disorders with the same broad brush,” said House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. “It assumes that simply because an individual suffers from a mental condition, that individual is unfit to exercise his or her Second Amendment rights.”

    “Democrats agreed the government must not stigmatize those with disabilities but said this rule affects a small group with severe, long-term mental disorders preventing them from doing any work. Passage of the resolution puts others at risk, they said.

    “These are not just people having a bad day,” said Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif. “These are not people simply suffering from depression or anxiety. These are people with a severe mental illness who can’t hold any kind of job or make any decisions about their affairs. So the law says very clearly they shouldn’t have a firearm.”

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 11:07 AM
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    “Democrats agreed the government must not stigmatize those with disabilities but said this rule affects a small group with severe, long-term mental disorders preventing them from doing any work. Passage of the resolution puts others at risk, they said.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 11:07 AM

    And democrats, like you, get it wrong again. None of the people in the recent killings would have been identified by this approach.

    The one that was considered mentally ill wasn't even reported by the military. Another law that didn't work.

    You're clueless.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • Rick Lettau

    The Law as written pre-Obama was not enforced . I go back to the root of the problem , Laws are not being enforced . What Obama tried was not a Law anyway , what Trump did to undo what Obama did was not a Law , they were both Executive actions . The next President can choose an action of their own as well .

    What is sad is trying to politicalize a tragedy by either Party , IMO . It all goes back to the (D) or the (R) , who's the bad guy and who's not , it doesn't matter the person , it matters the letter .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 1:04 PM
  • Lettau is scared to death that gun owners are coming up Crooked Creek to Marble Hill in their dhows to get him.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:17 AM

    What does that mean ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 1:06 PM
  • Texas church shooter attended celebration with parishioners days before rampage, report says

    Devin Patrick Kelley attended a fall festival at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs five days before he killed 26 people inside the church and wounded 20 others, the San Antonio Express-News reported Tuesday.

    A friend of Kelly's mother-in-law told the paper that Kelley attended the festival with his children, adding that people who saw him there took it as a sign of progress.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-church-shooter-attended-celebration-with...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 1:14 PM
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    What does that mean ? -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 1:06 PM

    I'm quoting his own words back to him. When many of us were critical of Obama's "red line" in Syria, letting terrorists in from other nations and lack of concern Lettau said we were all "scared" and wondered when the terrorist had brought their "dhows" (boats) up the Mississippi River to attack us.

    Just making him eat a little crow over his gun hysteria.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 1:49 PM
  • "What does that mean?"

    It was and is absolutely meaningless. You need to consider the source. If you want accurate information don't go there.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 2:25 PM
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    "Lettau said we were all "scared" and wondered when the terrorist had brought their "dhows" (boats) up the Mississippi River to attack us."

    Doug was correct Ulrich, you did say that.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 3:04 PM
  • The only thing that's correct is that the SO conservative gang was being toyed with and made fun of with obvious sarcasm. Could it be that you still don't get that?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 3:13 PM
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    Took about 60 seconds...

    "What I have said "all along" is that ISIS sailing their dhows up the Mississippi or Saracens charging over the Ozarks will not happen." -- Posted by Ricky Lettau on Fri, Nov 27, 2015, at 11:13 AM

    And my response to Ricky...

    "You frequently post that anyone concerned about lax immigration, inability to screen for these people, etc. as "paranoia", "odds are you won't be killed personally", "hiding under their bed", "dhows coming up the Mississippi to the Bootheel", etc. No one I know has ever posted they are concerned about being personally attacked by ISIS. You have Obama's divide-and-conquer complex. Some of us care about victims of terrorism despite the fact that they only connection we have with them is they are fellow Americans. Doesn't seem to work with you." -- Posted by Dug on Sun, Dec 6, 2015, at 9:27 AM

    ===

    A lie a minute with Ricky... you have gun "paranoia", "hiding under your bed" and "odds are you won't be killed personally" by gun owners" in dhows coming up Cripple Creek to get you in Marble Hill".

    You're pure entertainment.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 3:18 PM
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    That's why Ricky doesn't respond to me. He, like most all leftist / progressives, absolutely hates his words stuffed back in his mouth.

    He thinks others on here are stupid and can't remember things.

    Need a little mustard with that crow your eating Ricky?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 3:22 PM
  • That's why Ricky doesn't respond to me. He, like most all leftist / progressives, absolutely hates his words stuffed back in his mouth.

    He thinks others on here are stupid and can't remember things.

    Need a little mustard with that crow your eating Ricky?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 3:22 PM

    Independent here . I don't believe you know what I think , I believe you only know what you think I know which is cool . I think I know at least one on here who is stupid now .

    Independents catch hell from both sides but that's okay , I'm a big boy and can take it . Pull your claws in kitty cat . I've been shot and shot back -- still support the 2nd Amendment . I also believe blaming everything on the NRA is nonsense , if somebody wants to come and try to take my gun , c'mon , it's on .

    Eat crow ? nah , not me never have and never will . Again , pull in those claws paper tiger , I ask a simple question , no need to go off the deep end about it .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 4:41 PM
  • I still don't know what it means .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 4:43 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 4:41 PM

    Rick - I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Ricky Lettau. Read the posts above and you'll see you completely misread my post.

    Lettau. Not Scaggs.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 4:46 PM
  • Figures , no surprise here...

    ...............

    Senate Dems introduce bill to ban assault weapons, bump stocks

    By Jordain Carney - 11/08/17 11:47 AM EST

    Senate Democrats are moving to ban assault weapons and a device that allows semi-automatic weapons to simulate automatic fire in the wake of mass shootings in Las Vegas and Texas.

    Roughly two dozen Democrats, led by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), introduced legislation on Wednesday that would ban assault weapons, high-capacity ammunition magazines and bump stocks, devices that can be used to make semi-automatic rifles fire faster.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359381-senate-dems-introduce-bill-to-ban-assa...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 5:19 PM
  • Reckon I added my last post to the wrong thread.

    "The Big Reveal: The Story of How 470,000 Documents from Osama Bin Laden's Compound Finally Got Into the Open"

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    So Obama covered up and lied about the friendly relationship and cooperation between Iran and Bin Ladin's terror to help get his gift to Iran through.

    The Sweetest Sound on Earth guy revealed by Trump releasing what Obama kept under wraps so he could declare the JV team on the run.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 5:19 PM
  • "He thinks others on here are stupid..."

    Not in the least. A few are confused about some issues. Most are sincere in their opinions, and no one that I'm aware of objects to that.

    But there are some the are *** ...

    ...and to continue to be polite, I'll just let everyone make up their own minds and allow their conservative posts reveal just who they are.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 5:58 PM
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    I'll just let everyone make up their own minds and allow their conservative posts reveal just who they are.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 5:58 PM

    Common: Since you are the token Dependent Democrat on here, I don't care what list you put me on....doesn't matter.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 6:18 PM
  • "How 470,000 Documents..."

    ANALYSIS: CIA RELEASES MASSIVE TROVE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN’S FILES

    THOMAS JOSCELYN & BILL ROGGIO | November 1, 2017

    "The CIA is releasing hundreds of thousands of documents, images, and computer files recovered during the May 2011 raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The newly-available material provides invaluable insights into the terrorist organization that struck America on September 11, 2001."

    https://www.longwarjournal.org/tags/osama-bin-ladens-files

    Think there’s a bit of difference between 470,000 documents versus "hundreds of thousands of documents, images and files…"

    How many are actually valuable documents?

    How many are actually valuable images”

    How many are actually valuable files.

    You may want to consider (or not) that all of the information is almost 7 years old, many of the terrorists that could be involved are probably dead, and if there was intelligence of value, the plans would have been changed.

    Interesting historical stuff but nothing much else.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 6:24 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 5:58 PM

    Doesn't work with you. Being polite isn't the problem. Correcting you or quoting your own words back absolutely drives you nuts.

    As David said, I don't care what list you put me on. Doesn't affect me one whit.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 6:28 PM
  • Yep , Obama is stuff but nothing much else.

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 6:36 PM
  • To believe the misinformation we were fed by the Obama loyalists meant the two prominent sects of Islam were dire enemies and Iran was not backing the Bin Laden terrorists. The old news reveals that they were closely working with Al-Qaeda in moving operations to Pakistan and expanding, not on the run or a JV team. If that info would have been examined by the Obama influenced agencies there would have been less surprise and failure in Middle East foreign policy.

    Down playing the importance of that 'old historic means little now' is why ISIS and all the other Muslim terrorist were able to move to other areas and show up on Trump's watch.

    My opinion is Obama's dedication is to Muslim extremists and America's decline as a world influence for a prosperous peaceful world.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:08 PM
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    My opinion is Obama's dedication is to Muslim extremists and America's decline as a world influence for a prosperous peaceful world. -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:08 PM

    And, of course, we can't forget the cash payment in Euros and Francs of $150 BILLION dollars to his beloved Iran. A state sponsor of terrorism.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:16 PM
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    Doug

    How quick one forgets unpleasantness.... please wait while I go look for a name. Ah yes, Sneller if he had the power would ban you and me. Looks like he/she banned theirself.

    Bet Ulrich would ban a couple of us also if he had the power to do so. He doesn't like to be disagreed with. With him Leftist Socialistic Communism is the only thing out there. Nobody else may have a thought or an opinion if they disagree.

    Just consider the source and go on.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:17 PM
  • Ralph, Common will be back to give us his permission to have an opinion and tell us conservatives are the ones making themselves look stupid.

    I'll check back in an hour or so to see what Schumerism he repeats next. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:54 PM
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    Richard,

    If all I had left in life was memories of Obama and allegiance to the Democratic Party, I think I would go on a hunger strike until I came to my senses. If death came first, that would be preferable.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 8:03 PM
  • I keep hearing and seeing the new buzz word "divisive" , is it a politically correct way to mean the People are divided . If so , the Nation didn't get divided last week , 6 months ago , or even 1 year ago on Election night . Trump isn't the only reason the People and Nation are divided , he doesn't help -- he thinks with his thumbs and speaks out of his *** -- but it's not all on Trump like the Media wants to play it .

    Go back to #blacklivesmatter , or take down those Confederate flags , or special interest groups running the Country -- when the exception to the rule became the rule . The Nation wasn't perfect pre-2008 but it's been a pile of steaming buffalo shat every since .

    "Those who forget the past don't understand the present ."

    ~~ Oscho

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 8:24 PM
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    Think there’s a bit of difference between 470,000 documents versus "hundreds of thousands of documents, images and files…"-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 6:24 PM

    Common: Did you not take math in grade school....470,000 is hundreds of thousands. Break it down - there are 4 hundred thousands plus 70,000 more making it 470,000. That's hundred of thousands.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 8:37 PM
  • "...ban a couple of us also if he had the power to do so."

    Why would I do something that needless? What fun would that be?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:19 PM
  • Friday is Veteran's Day

    Thnx to all you Vets !

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 9:37 PM
  • Sure it ain't Saturday or was my calendar printed by the government?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 10:59 PM
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    Today my 16 year old Granddaughter came over to visit with the wife and I and to spend some quiet time studying. She asked for my help on something. She is on a debate team and their subject is the duty of the government to, or not to, intervene to lesson the gap between the poor and the wealthy. What were my thoughts? She must study both sides of the case and will not know if it is her position to argue for or against government intervention until the time of the debate.

    I gave her a few thoughts then remembered what I have posted below. I looked it up and sent a link to her tablet. She immediately read a good portion of it and said she could definitely use it.

    I post it here for all to read because I think way too many have forgotten what our great country was founded on.

    *****************************************************************************

    Not Yours To Give

    Davy Crockett on The Role Of Government

    from: The Life of Colonel David Crockett

    compiled by: Edward S. Elis (1884)

    “Money with [Congressmen] is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it.”

    Introductory note by Peter Kershaw:

    Davy Crockett served four terms in the U.S. Congress from 1827-1835. In 1835 he joined the Whig Party and ran a failed attempt for the Presidency. Immediately thereafter he departed his native Tennessee for Texas to secure the independence of the "Texicans." He lost his life at the battle of the Alamo and forever secured his legendary status in history as "king of the wild frontier." The following story was recounted to Edward Elis by an unnamed Congressman who had served with Colonel Crockett in the U.S. House of Representatives.

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    ...Crockett was then the lion of Washington. I was a great admirer of his character, and, having several friends who were intimate with him, I found no difficulty in making his acquaintance. I was fascinated with him, and he seemed to take a fancy to me. I was one day in the lobby of the House of Representatives when a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. It seemed to be that everybody favored it. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose. Everybody expected, of course, that he was going to make a speech in support of the bill. He commenced:

    "Mr. Speaker -- I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House; but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into argument to prove that Congress has no power under the Constitution to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. "Mr. Speaker, I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks." He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as no doubt it would, but for that speech, it received but a few votes and was lost. Like many others, I desired the passage of the bill, and felt outraged at its defeat. I determined that I would persuade my friend Crockett to move for a reconsideration the next day.

    Previous engagements preventing me from seeing Crockett that night, I went early to his room the next morning and found him franking letters, a large pile of which lay upon his table.

    I broke in upon him rather abruptly, by asking him what the devil had possessed him to make that speech and defeat that bill yesterday. Without turning his head or looking up from his work, he replied: "I will answer your question. But thereby hangs a tale, and one of considerable length, to which you will have to listen."

    I listened, and this is the tale which I heard:

    "Several years ago I was one evening standing on the steps of the Capitol with some other members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a great light over in Georgetown. It was evidently a large fire. We jumped into the hack and drove over as fast as we could. When we got there, I went to work, and I never worked as hard in my life as I did there for several hours. But, in spite of all that could be done, many houses were burned and many families made houseless, and, besides, some of them had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was very cold, and when I saw so many women and children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them, and everybody else seemed to feel the same way. "The next morning a bill was introduced appropriating $20,000 for their relief. We put aside all other business and rushed it through as soon as it could be done. I said everybody felt as I did. That was not quite so; for, though they perhaps sympathized as deeply with the sufferers as I did, there were a few of the members who did not think we had the right to indulge our sympathy or excite our charity at the expense of anybody but ourselves. They opposed the bill, and upon its passage demanded the yeas and nays. The yeas and nays were recorded, and my name appeared on the journals in favor of the bill.

    "The next summer, when it began to be time to think about election, I concluded I would take a scout around among the boys of my district. I had no opposition there, but, as the election was some time off, I did not know what might turn up, and I thought it was best to let the boys know that I had not forgot them, and that going to Congress had not made me too proud to go to see them. "So I put a couple of shirts and a few twists of tobacco into my saddlebags, and put out. I had been out about a week and had found things going very smoothly, when, riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came to the fence. As he came up I spoke to the man. He replied politely, but, as I thought, rather coldly, and was about turning his horse for another furrow when I said to him: 'Don't be in such a hurry my friend; I want to have a little talk with you, and get better acquainted.' He replied: "'I am very busy, and have but little time to talk, but if it does not take too long, I will listen to what you have to say.' "I began: 'Well, friend, I am one of those fortunate beings called candidates, and . . . .' "' Yes, I know you; you are Colonel Crockett. I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine. I shall not vote for you again.' "This was a sockdolager .... I begged him to tell me what was the matter. "'Well, Colonel, it is hardly worthwhile to waste time or words upon it. I do not see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you are not the man to represent me. But I beg your pardon for expressing it that way. I did not intend to avail myself of the privilege of the constituent to speak plainly to a candidate for the purpose of insulting or wounding you. I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the Constitution is very different from mine; and I will say to you what, but for my rudeness, I should not have said, that I believe you to be honest. ... But an understanding of the Constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is the more dangerous the more honest he is.' "'I admit the truth of all you say, but there must be some mistake about it, for I do not remember that I gave any vote last winter upon any constitutional question.' "'No, Colonel, there's no mistake. Though I live here in the backwoods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown. Is that true?' "'Certainly it is, and I thought that was the last vote which anybody in the world would have found fault with.' "'Well, Colonel, where do you find in the Constitution any authority to give away the public money in charity?'

    "Here was another sockdolager; for, when I began to think about it, I could not remember a thing in the Constitution that authorized it. I found I must take another tack, so I said: "'Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury; and, I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.' "'It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be intrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means. What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he. "'If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. "'No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week's pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men in Washington, who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life. The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington, no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution.'

    "I have given you," continued Crockett, "an imperfect account of what he said. Long before he was through, I was convinced that I had done wrong. He wound up by saying: "'So you see, Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It is precedent fraught with danger to the country, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it any better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and you see that I cannot vote for you.' "I tell you I felt streaked. I saw if I should have opposition, and this man should go to talking, he would set others to talking, and in this district I was a gone fawn-skin. I could not answer him, and the fact is, I was so fully convinced that he was right, I did not want to. But I must satisfy him, and I said to him: "'Well, my friend, you hit the nail upon the head when you said I had not sense enough to understand the Constitution. I intended to be guided by it, and thought I had studied it fully. I have heard many speeches in Congress, but what you have said here at your plow has got more hard, sound sense in it than all the fine speeches I have ever heard. If I had ever taken the view of it that you have, I would have put my head into the fire before I would have given that vote; and if you will forgive me and vote for me again, if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot.'

    "The farmer laughingly replied: 'Yes, Colonel, you have sworn to that once before, but I will trust you again upon one condition. You say that you are convinced that your vote was wrong. Your acknowledgment of it will do more good than defeating you for it. If, as you go around the district, you will tell people about this vote, and that you are satisfied it was wrong, I will not only vote for you, but will do what I can to keep down opposition, and, perhaps, I may exert some little influence in that way.' "'If I don't,' said I, 'I wish I may be shot; and to convince you that I am in earnest in what I say I will come back this way in a week or ten days, and if you will get a gathering of the people, I will make a speech to them. Get up a barbecue, and I will pay for it.' "'No, Colonel, we are not rich people in this section, but we have plenty of provisions to contribute for a barbecue, and some to spare for those who have none. The push of crops will be over in a few days, and we can then afford a day for a barbecue. This is Thursday; I will see to getting it up on Saturday seek. Come to my house on Friday, and we will go together, and I promise you a very respectable crowd to see and hear you.' "'Well, I will be here. But one thing more before I say good-bye. I must know your name.' "'My name is Bunce.' "'Not Horatio Bunce?' "'Yes.' "'Well, Mr. Bunce, I never saw you before, though you say you have seen me, but I know you very well. I am glad I have met you, and very proud that I may hope to have you for my friend. You must let me shake your hand before I go.' "We shook hands and parted that day in gentlemanly friendship and amity.

    "It was one of the luckiest hits of my life that I met that man. He mingled but little with the public, but was widely known for his remarkable intelligence, incorruptible integrity, and, for a heart brimful and running over with kindness and benevolence, which showed themselves not only in words but in acts. He was the oracle of the whole country around him, and his fame extended far beyond the circle of his immediate acquaintance. Though I had never met him before, I had heard much of him, and but for this meeting it is very likely I should have had opposition, and had been beaten. One thing is very certain, no man could now stand up in that district under such a vote. "At the appointed time I was at his house, having told our conversation to every crowd I had met, and to every man I stayed all night with. In fact I found that it gave the people an interest and a confidence in me stronger than I had ever seen manifest before. "Though I was considerably fatigued when I reached the home of Mr. Bunce, and under ordinary circumstances should have gone early to bed, I kept him up until midnight, talking about the principles and affairs of government, and got more real, true knowledge of them than I had got all my life before. "I have told you Mr. Bunce converted me politically. He came nearer converting me religiously than I had ever been before. He did not make a very good Christian of me, as you know; but he has wrought upon my feelings a reverence for its purifying and elevating power such as I had never felt before. "I have known and seen much of him since, for I respect him -- no, that is not the word -- I reverence and love him more than any living man, and I go to see him two or three times every year; and I will you sir, if every one who professes to be a Christian lived and acted and enjoyed it as he does, the religion of Christ would take the world by storm.

    "But to return to my story. The next morning we went to the barbecue, and, to my surprise, found about a thousand me there. I met a good many whom I had not known before, and they and my friend introduced me around until I had got pretty well acquainted -- at least, they all knew me. "In due time notice was given that I would speak to them. They gathered up around a stand that had been erected. I opened my speech by saying: "'Fellow-citizens -- I present myself before you today feeling like a new man. My eyes have lately been opened to truths which ignorance or prejudice, or both, had heretofore hidden from my view. I feel that I can today offer you the ability to render you more valuable service than I have ever been able to render before. I am here today more for the purpose of acknowledging my error than to seek your votes. That I should make this acknowledgment is due to myself as well as to you. Whether you will vote for me is a matter for your consideration only.' "I went on to tell them about the fire and my vote for the appropriation as I have told it to you, and then told them why I was satisfied it was wrong. I closed by saying: "'And now, fellow-citizens, it remains only for me to tell you that most of the speech you have listened to with so much interest was simply a repetition of the arguments by which your neighbor, Mr. Bunce, convinced me of my error. "'It is the best speech I ever made in my life, but my friend Horatio Bunce is entitled to the credit of it. And now I hope he is satisfied with his convert and that he will get up here and tell you so.' "He came upon the stand and said: "'Fellow-citizens -- It affords me great pleasure to comply with the request of Colonel Crockett. I have always considered him a thoroughly honest man, and I am satisfied that he will faithfully perform all that he has promised you today.' "He went down, and there went up from the crowd such a shout for Davy Crockett as his name never called forth before. "I am not much given to tears, but I was taken with a choking then and felt some big drops rolling down my cheeks. And I tell you now that the remembrance of those few words spoken by such a man, and the honest, hearty shout they produced, is worth more to me than all the honors I have received and all the reputation I have ever made, or ever shall make, as a member of Congress.

    "Now, sir,' concluded Crockett, "you know why I made that speech yesterday. I have had several thousand copies of it printed, and was directing them to my constituents when you came in. "There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a weeks pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men -- men who think nothing of spending a week's pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased -- a debt which could not be paid by money -- and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighed against the honor of the nation. "Yet not one of those Congressmen responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it."

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 12:13 AM
  • Sure it ain't Saturday or was my calendar printed by the government?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 10:59 PM

    Yeah , it is , my bad .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 6:44 AM
  • “If all I had left in life was memories of Obama and allegiance to the Democratic Party, I think I would go on a hunger strike until I came to my senses. If death came first, that would be preferable.”

    Typically and tragically the conservative approach to issues, stemming from their faulty logic gene. Go ahead with your “hunger strike.”

    The rest of us embrace life much more positively, look at society and the nation realistically, and continue to work to improve things. This is also what makes participation so entertaining.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:18 AM
  • "...the duty of the government to, or not to, intervene to lesson the gap between the poor and the wealthy."

    Hopefully, you also explained to her that the vast majority of "interventions" by government today are on behalf of the wealthy in the form of tax breaks, corporate welfare, legal protection, and cooperation or collusion by Congress.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:23 AM
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    The rest of us embrace life much more positively -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:18 AM

    Got a mouse in your pocket Mr. Doomsday??? Have the dhows with their gun owners arrived at your door yet???

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:26 AM
  • The Government works for the People , the People do not work for the Government .

    Let the firing begin...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:28 AM
  • Wonder how Mr. Horatio Bunce would react today with President Trump and the Congress sending about $20 billion to Houston flood victims?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM
  • "We the People..."

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:34 AM
  • Rick Lettau

    Who is Mr. Horatio Bunce ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:36 AM
  • Nevermind...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:46 AM
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    Wonder how Mr. Horatio Bunce would react today with President Trump and the Congress sending about $20 billion to Houston flood victims? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM

    "I would rather be beaten, and be a man, than to be elected and be a little puppy dog." - Davey Crockett

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:46 AM
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    Wonder how Mr. Horatio Bunce would react today with President Trump and the Congress sending about $20 billion to Houston flood victims?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM

    About the same way he reacted to Davey Crockett's vote to donate the $20,000.00 I would say.

    That $20 Billion is the mistake we find ourself dealing with after a century and a half of misguidance by those we send to Washington.

    Our Government now considers itself a nationalized version of the Red Cross vs what their job was laid out to be by the Constitution.

    Charity is not a function of government.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 8:04 AM
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    OJ & Rick: Friday is the official day off for Veteran's Day but Saturday is Veteran's Day.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 8:37 AM
  • Typically and tragically the conservative approach to issues, stemming from their faulty logic gene.

    I'll check back in an hour or so to see what Schumerism he repeats next. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 8, 2017, at 7:54 PM

    Ok so it took a bit more than an hour.:)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 9:28 AM
  • Wonder how Mr. Horatio Bunce would react today with President Trump and the Congress sending about $20 billion to Houston flood victims?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:33 AM

    I'm imagining Mr Bunce thinking some people just can't shake off the election and get a grip.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 9:53 AM
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    I'm imagining Mr Bunce thinking some people just can't shake off the election and get a grip.

    -- Posted by DA Braswell on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 9:53 AM

    Rock: Just like the Loser Hillary who finds fault in everything but her lying tail as to why she lost.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 10:11 AM
  • In China, Trump Employs Tough Talk, Flattery With Xi

    "Mr. Xi smiled broadly at some of Mr. Trump’s remarks, including that China wasn’t to blame for the trade imbalance. China posted a near-$27 billion trade surplus with the U.S. in October.

    Mr. Trump did include tougher talk in his pledge to tackle imbalances: “We must immediately address the unfair trade practices that drive this deficit,” he said. “We really have to look at access, forced technology transfer and the theft of intellectual property, which just by and of itself is costing the United States and its government at least $300 billion a year.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-china-trump-walks-fine-line-on-trade-north-korea...

    ********************

    China’s Trade Surplus With U.S. Exceeds $25 Billion for Fifth Straight Month

    Trade gap with U.S. likely to rise to nearly $370 billion this year

    Updated Nov. 8, 2017 2:19 a.m. ET

    BEIJING—China’s trade surplus widened in October from the previous month, a reminder of trade imbalances as U.S. President Donald Trump kicks off his first presidential visit to Beijing.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-trade-surplus-widens-in-october-1510116345

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 12:01 PM
  • Trump Says He Doesn’t ‘Blame China’ For Trade Imbalances

    Ryan Pickrell 8:39 AM 11/09/2017

    President Donald Trump appeared to give China a pass Thursday for engaging in unfair trade practices.

    “We can’t continue to allow China to rape our country, and that’s what they’re doing,” he said at a rally last year. But, speaking in Beijing Thursday, Trump said he blamed past U.S. administrations, not China for the current state of bilateral trade between the two countries.

    “I don’t blame China,” Trump explained, “After all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for the benefit of their citizens? I give China great credit.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/09/trump-says-he-doesnt-blame-china-for-trade-imb...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 6:23 PM
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    Ulrich,

    When I first viewed this it crossed my mind.... you have your nerve in speaking of Conservatives and their "genetic" problems when your own seem to have gone completely off their rocker. 1 year to the date of getting their a** kicked in the Presidential election.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/nation/government-and-politics/protesters-scream-at...

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 7:27 PM
  • "Bark at the moon"

    ~ Ozzy Osbourne

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 10:05 PM
  • Today's "Liberals" seem to believe the rest of the People don't understand there are all types of People in America , everyone is an individual , wouldn't life be boring if each and every person were the same . The American People aren't stupid , they do not need the obvious repeated time and again .

    What today's "Liberals" don't seem to understand is they can't pick and choose which type of individual the rest of the People must accept , a person can not be forced onto everyone else , it does not work . Mandates and Executive orders to enforce this ideologies are wrong , they divide the Peoples .

    It is not "Liberal" actions either...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 10:14 PM
  • Dueling Republican tax plans advance in Congress

    U.S. Senate Republicans unveiled a tax plan on Thursday that differed from the House of Representatives' version on several key fronts, including how they treat the corporate tax rate, the tax deduction for state and local taxes, and the estate tax.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rival-republican-tax-cut-plans-emerging-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 10:30 PM
  • The whole purpose was middle class and corporate tax cuts. Establishment Republicans that are more concerned with politics and not holding firm could be victims of the next swamp drain.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 11:03 PM
  • The damned thing will end up 300 pages long of gobble-dee-gook that makes no sense to the average person , it'll still take some kind of high dollar accountant or lawyer to figure out . My guess is swap a loophole here for a loophole there...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 6:31 AM
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    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 9, 2017, at 11:03 PM

    And then they'll lose control of congress and the alt-left democrats will work for impeachment of Trump for no reason.

    Gonna get messy as the marxist democrats / Antifa / the media fight for power. Trump has threatened the swamp of those in power in both parties.

    I don't like his style and it has made him vulnerable. Stupid. But I do like his substance.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 8:02 AM
  • Trump brings tough trade message in vision for Asia

    DANANG, Vietnam (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump set out a strong message on trade at a meeting of Asia-Pacific countries in Vietnam on Friday, saying the United States could no longer tolerate chronic trade abuses and would insist on fair and equal policies.

    Trump said the United States was ready to make a bilateral deal with any country in the Indo-Pacific region, but only on the basis of “mutual respect and mutual benefit”.

    “When the United States enters into a trading relationship with other countries or other peoples, we will from now on expect that our partners will faithfully follow the rules,” he said in the seaside resort of Danang.

    The difference between Trump’s and China’s approaches was made more stark by comments in a later speech from Chinese President Xi Jinping, who said globalization was an irreversible trend and voiced support for multilateral trade deals.

    While China has by far the biggest trade surplus with the United States, Vietnam is also on the list of those surpluses the Trump administration seeks to reduce.

    https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1DA0KR-OCATP

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 1:09 PM
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    The reason that the USA is still free after 241 years - all gave some, some gave all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73lkAwagkkc

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 5:43 PM
  • What happened to all those women that claimed Herman Cain was a pervert. If you had a 14 year old daughter in the early '70s would she get phone calls from an older man without your knowledge? Only if she had a private phone in her room with her own number, I guess.

    I have no way of knowing but sure sounds goofy that right before an election this comes out.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 8:13 PM
  • This stuff was all the rage when Bill Clinton was around . In today's world all a man has to do is look at a woman wrong and it's all over the news . Wiener , Cosby , Weinstein , Stacey , Louis CK , Moore , ad nausea..trial by media

    like there aren't some nasty women out in this world too ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 7:00 AM
  • World leaders reach agreement on trade deal without United States: report

    By Brandon Carter - 11/10/17 08:12 PM EST

    Top officials from 11 countries said Friday that they had reached a deal on a trade agreement that does not involve the United States, according to a new report.

    The Associated Press reports that trade officials from 11 countries have reached an agreement on the “core elements” of the trade deal. Those 11 countries, plus the U.S., signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership in 2016.

    Trump pulled the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership in January shortly after taking office.

    “We've been talking about this for a long time,” Trump said at the time, adding that leaving the agreement was a “great thing for the American worker.”

    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/359885-asian-leaders-reach-agreement-on-trade-...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 7:12 AM
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    I have no way of knowing but sure sounds goofy that right before an election this comes out. -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 10, 2017, at 8:13 PM

    Another interesting bit is the fact that these allegations only were raised AFTER the primary. This is definitely orchestrated to cause the most damage. Had the allegations been made before the primary he may have lost and republicans would have held the seat. Waiting to bring up alleged incidents from 30-40 years ago just after he wins the primary has "democrat" written all over it.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 8:13 AM
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    Waiting to bring up alleged incidents from 30-40 years ago just after he wins the primary has "democrat" written all over it.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 8:13 AM

    Dug: It's that Democrat & Russian collusion thing.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 8:48 AM
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    It's the Democratic way.... if you cannot win fairly, CHEAT!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 8:53 AM
  • It's a slow news cycle that'll go to page 9 after the next big story hits . Trump caught hell for saying something about grabbing women too . Clinton caught hell but nobody's remembers squat right now , convient as it is .

    There has to bigger issues to fix in the USA besides these kinds of dog~n~pony shows .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 10:15 AM
  • It's freakin' Veteran's Day and the Mass Media is all about high school shat ...sad...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 10:18 AM
  • “President Barack Obama said that ‘I want to tell you how important Virginia is to me. It means the world to me. It means our legacy, for me and Michelle. I’m going to do everything that I can to come to Virginia to campaign for you,’” Northam told the crowd at a Wednesday campaign event, Richmond Times Dispatch reported.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/11/barack-obama-...

    Yes it was Veterans Day and I did not sit around watching Hallmark Christmas movies that depict Santa Claus and happy divorced people hooking up that have nothing to do with Christ. I did watch a Hollywood war documentary that gave a liberal progressive view of history though.

    Checked in on Face book and see plead from some friends to boycott Foot ball. Kind of hard to boycott something I never watch.

    I did spend some time educating myself and getting current on the turmoil in the Middle East and it seems if Obama is as smart as his worshipers think he is, He must have deliberately screwed everything up for a reason.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 11:31 PM
  • Just me , my opinion only , the majority of Trump's trip to Asia was useless . The one thing that really was mixfusing was his trade , or lack of , deals . He wants to cut corporate taxes to draw corporations to the USA . At the same time he tells all of the Nations the USA won't join a trade pact with them , if they want to trade with the USA , they have to ask the USA . Why would corporations come to the USA if they have no customers ? Do corporations have to ask if they can come to the USA too ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:15 AM
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    ....it seems if Obama is as smart as his worshipers think he is, He must have deliberately screwed everything up for a reason.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 11:31 PM

    Richard, one would think, if the Leftist Democrats are as smart as they think they are, they also would wake up and come to this realization.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:19 AM
  • Polish Nationalist Youth March Draws Thousands in Capital

    WARSAW—Tens of thousands of Poles marched across downtown Warsaw on Saturday, in an independence-day procession organized by a nationalist youth movement that seeks an ethnically pure Poland with fewer Jews or Muslims.

    The largely young crowd shot off roman candles and many chanted “fatherland,” carrying banners that read “White Europe,” “Europe Will Be White” and “Clean Blood.” Some of the marchers flew in from Hungary, Slovakia and Spain and waved flags and symbols that those countries used during their wartime collaboration with Nazi Germany.

    The group has regularly held events to mark a 1936 pogrom against Jews. Its symbols were displayed on a banner that appeared over a Warsaw bridge, reading: “Pray for Islamic Holocaust.”

    This year, the group said it was adopting a new slogan, a quote from a July speech here by President Donald Trump : “We want God.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/polish-nationalist-youth-march-draws-thousands-in-c...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:19 AM
  • ....it seems if Obama is as smart as his worshipers think he is, He must have deliberately screwed everything up for a reason.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 11, 2017, at 11:31 PM

    "Fundamentally Change the USA"...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:25 AM
  • The USA :

    2008 --- a crazed ape was unleashed

    2016 --- trying to put a crazed ape back on a leash

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:32 AM
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    Great Statements of the Democrat Party - PAST:

    "One man with courage makes a majority." ~ Andrew Jackson

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

    "The buck stops here." ~ Harry S. Truman

    "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." ~ John F. Kennedy

    Great Statements of the Democrat Party - RECENT:

    "It depends what your definition of 'is' is?'' ~ William Jefferson Clinton

    "Those rumors are false. I believe in the sanctity of marriage." ~ John Edwards

    "What difference, at this point, does it make?" (re: Benghazi). ~ Hillary Clinton

    "I invented the Internet." ~ Al Gore

    "America is, is no longer, uh, what it, uh, could be, uh, what it was once was, uh, and I say to myself, uh, I don't want that future, uh, for my children."

    ~ Barack Obama

    "I have campaigned in all 57 states." ~ Barack Obama (Quoted 2008)

    "You don't need God anymore; you have us Democrats." ~ Nancy Pelosi (Quoted 2006)

    "Paying taxes is voluntary." ~ Sen. Harry Reid

    "Bill is the greatest husband and father I know.. No one is more faithful, true, and honest than he is." ~ Hillary Rodham Clinton (Quoted 1998)

    "You have a business. You didn't build that. Someone else did!" ~ Barack Obama (Quoted 2012)

    And the most ridiculous gem of wisdom, from the "Mother Superior Moron": "We just have to pass the Healthcare Bill to see what's in it." ~ Nancy Pelosi (Quoted 2010)

    Beyond a doubt, the greatest statement of all was made by Democrat House Speaker Sam Rayburn at the first Congressional session after Ted Kennedy was caught, on camera, having sex with one of his aides on the deck of his yacht. "Ah see that the good Senatuh from the great state of Massutwoshits has changed his position on off-shore drillin'."

    AND THE LATEST FROM THIS DYSFUNCTIONAL BUNCH IS:

    "My fear is if North Korea nukes us, Trump gonna get us into a war." ~ Maxine Waters (Quoted 2017)

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 9:57 AM
  • Perhaps you can provide the link to an actual quote from Rep. Waters.

    I'm sure that they still "can't put anything on the internet that isn't true" so it should be easy for you to find when and where she said those exact words.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 10:55 AM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 10:55 AM

    Perhaps you can respond to your poor judgement in support of these people... rather than deflect (as usual) to one quote.

    "Bill is the greatest husband and father I know.. No one is more faithful, true, and honest than he is." ~ Hillary Rodham Clinton (Quoted 1998)

    "Paying taxes is voluntary." ~ Sen. Harry Reid

    "Those rumors are false. I believe in the sanctity of marriage." ~ John Edwards

    You worship politicians and people in power and have proven that on here for a decade. And demand others answer your questions. YOU have a lot to answer for with those democrat quotes.

    No one else on here. Quit the cheap deflection and own up to your failed ideology.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 11:45 AM
  • Who is Maxine Waters , is she that woman who's husband got caught fooling around with other People's money ?

    I believe there's enough stupidity coming out of Washington , DC to cover everybody , not just one specific political Party .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 3:09 PM
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    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 10:55 AM

    Ulrich,

    That one checks false, but surely you would try to debunk the rest of them.

    Cannot score whoever put the list together too low. They called 16 out of 17 correctly.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 3:27 PM
  • It doesn't matter if it is true or not, it is the seriousness of the allegations that make it a valid concern and reason for the accused to accept it as undeniable and give up any opposition to the claims made.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 12, 2017, at 8:21 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 4:48 AM
  • Woodrow Wilson (D)

    1.) Federal Income Tax

    2.) Federal Reserve

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 4:51 AM
  • "That one checks false, but surely you would try to debunk the rest of them."

    If you were dishonest and lied about number 17, why should we give any credence to your other 16?

    However, of the other 16...

    Some are true.

    Some are simple misstatements.

    Some are intentionally taken out of context to mislead and misinform.

    And some are meaningless.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 7:52 AM
  • "...it is the seriousness of the allegations that make it a valid concern..."

    Appears you're infringing on a favorite "limbaughism." He may not be happy with you not giving him credit.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 7:54 AM
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    Ulrich,

    It appears like you are Rush Limbaugh's most loyal listener. 😂

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 8:02 AM
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    "If you were dishonest and lied about number 17, why should we give any credence to your other 16?"

    Sorry Charley, good try but I already left you know above I didn't make the list.

    But I could easily see how the party who did would believe that to be true. Nutty as that witch is, most of the off the wall statements she has been making since Trump won are equally as goofy.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 8:10 AM
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    Appears you're infringing on a favorite "limbaughism." He may not be happy with you not giving him credit.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 7:54 AM

    Common: Be careful....listening to Rush Limbaugh could cause you to leave the dark side of the force and join the rest of us in the right side of the force.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 9:10 AM
  • "...loyal listener."

    Not a matter of "loyal listening." He's a typical conservative and says the same goofy stuff over and over again.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 9:15 AM
  • Wow, Lettau falls in line with the program of the typical Statist-Progressive Socialist Establishment Democrats. Who would have expected?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 9:36 AM
  • *

    After hearing of our boy Teddy's exploits on the deck of his yacht, I'm wondering if a bunch of ladies will now come forward and join those hot after the rest of the prominent jerks of our time. He being deceased for the past 8 years shouldn't be a hindrance.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 9:41 AM
  • *

    It appears like you are Rush Limbaugh's most loyal listener. 😂 -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 8:02 AM

    I proved that years ago and he denied it. Cut and pasted those Rush quotes back to him. He hated it.

    He is supporting Rush every time he listens. Perfect.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM
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    The President wishes to inform all Americans that he is sorry for being rude to Kim Jong Un. From now on he will be sending N. Korea pallets of cash in exchange for favorable CNN coverage. (Sarah Sanders - White House Press Secretary.)

    Kim reportedly said - Forget the cash, send Twinkies and Ho Ho's.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 10:42 AM
  • "...the program of the typical Statist-Progressive Socialist Establishment Democrats."

    What exactly is that. I have no idea what "the program" is. Hopefully you can explain it.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 11:37 AM
  • Explained that all to you before common, you played dumb and asked more stupid questions to divert just as expected. I'll give you this though: You probably don't listen to Rush and only believe what your fellow Statists tell you he espouses.

    Your so in tune with the hate Trump crowd you can't see the forest for the cudzu established in treetops.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 12:27 PM
  • stat·ism

    [ˈstâdˌizəm]

    NOUN

    a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs:

    "the rise of authoritarian statism"

    .................

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:08 PM
  • "the rise of authoritarian statism"

    .................

    Woodrow Wilson (D)

    FDR (D)

    LBJ (D)

    Barack Obama (D)

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:11 PM
  • ..and Abraham Lincoln (R)

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:12 PM
  • "...state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs:"

    Does not apply to the US.

    "...probably don't listen to Rush..."

    Of course I do, when I'm in my work truck and he's on. I never denied that I do. Of course I have to admit that often his BS gets so deep that I have to go back to classical music for a while.

    That's why I'm aware of the source of so many of the SO conservatives talking points.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:19 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:19 PM
  • "...state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs:"

    Does not apply to the US.

    ................

    Disagree .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:20 PM
  • There are Federal Taxes , a Federal Reserve , and 100's of Government Agencies .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:22 PM
  • *

    "...state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs:"

    Does not apply to the US.

    "...probably don't listen to Rush..."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:19 PM

    Ulrich, Ulrich, where have you been these last 50 years? It has progressively become worse and worse under Democrat Presidents. The State forcibly takes from those who work and earn, then distributes it to those who sit on their *** and won't work. It is done in the form of food, stamps, rent subsidies, EITC and many more giveaways. It is legalized plunder they take from us to buy votes with the giveaways.

    You can deny if you want, but if you have a better description for taxes than legal plunder, I would like to hear it. Too late for Frederic Bastiat to hear your description.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 3:36 PM
  • *

    That's why I'm aware of the source of so many of the SO conservatives talking points.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 2:19 PM

    Common: I have not heard anyone admit listening to Rush on these forums in fact everyone has said that they don't listen....only you have admitted to it. That's what I call a true Rush Limbaugh fan.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 4:32 PM
  • The only thing I know about Rush Limbaugh is what I see on here , seems like he's been around since Christ wore sandals and has to be saying the same ol' tired stuff everyday . My guess is all of those radio jockeys do too . There's music on my radio , I don't need to hear any daily preaching ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 4:55 PM
  • 5 Causes of the Great Depression – Economic Domino Effect

    http://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/11/13/5-causes-great-depression-economic-domi...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 7:28 PM
  • Bipartisan analysis: Senate bill would hike taxes for 13.8M

    The analysis found that the Senate measure would actually increase taxes in 2019 for 13.8 million households earning less than $200,000 a year. That group, about 10 percent of all taxpayers, would face tax increases of $100 to $500 in 2019. There also would be increases greater than $500 for a number of taxpayers, especially those with incomes between $75,000 and $200,000. By 2025, 21.4 million households would have steeper tax bills.

    The analysts previously found a similar magnitude of tax increases under the House bill.

    A group of more than 400 millionaires and billionaires, including prominent figures such as Ben and Jerry's founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, designer Eileen Fisher and financier George Soros, asked Congress to reject the GOP tax plan and not give cuts to the super-wealthy like themselves.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bipartisan-analysis-senate-bill-would-hi...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:09 AM
  • "I have not heard anyone admit listening to Rush..."

    You inserted the key word when you said "admit to."

    I've never denied that when I'm driving between projects, I listen until his BS gets too deep and I turn back to classical music.

    It is extremely unlikely that all of the "limbaughism" pouring out of SO is purely coincidental. A good example is the "legalized plunder" rant above.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:33 AM
  • Sounds like this "Rush" dude is given more credit then he deserves . If he's all in like People say , run for Office , he can talk the talk , can he walk the walk .

    Free Speech is a Right but actions are louder then words .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:54 AM
  • *

    t is extremely unlikely that all of the "limbaughism" pouring out of SO is purely coincidental. A good example is the "legalized plunder" rant above.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:33 AM

    Ulrich,

    Obviously your education is sorely lacking. Rush Limbaugh had zip, zero, nada to do with my post. And it is not a rant, just hard cold facts.

    My terming it legal plunder spells out just exactly what taxes are. You need to read The Law by Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850. Spells it out perfectly. You can get a copy in PDF format absolutely free. I have read the book several times. I recommend it. You will probably not find it on the DNC site but this information should get you there....

    Bastiat,Frederic - The Law (PDF) - Foundation for Economic Education

    https://fee.org/media/14951/thelaw.pdf

    by F Bastiat - ‎1998 - ‎Cited by 200 - ‎Related articles

    The Law by Frederic Bastiat. Translated from the French by Dean Russell. Foreword by Walter E. Williams. Introduction by Richard Ebeling. Afterword by ...

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:55 AM
  • *

    PS: Ulrich, you may believe what you want, but I do not listen to Rush Limbaugh. 97.1 FM is my station of choice. It comes up when I start my engine in the car and I can press a button and it will come up on my phone if I so choose.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:59 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:33 AM

    Common: Debating the meaning of a word is not a very good offense. Get it your head nobody on this forum admits/says/owns up to/states/took a polygraph test/ of listening to Rush but you....his number one fan. I also don't listen to MSNBC or CNN which are your flagships TV networks.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:10 AM
  • "97.1 FM is my station of choice."

    If that's Fox KFTK in St. Louis, it's just "limbaughism" without the "Rush." Then you apparently have Hannity and Levin and other Limbaugh clones to keep you misinformed. That's funny.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:26 AM
  • With all due respect to "Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850" one needs to consider the actual time and place in history.

    The French population was less than 30 million, they had a series of rulers from constitutional monarchs to Napoleans to revolutionaries.

    However, socially, technically and economically it was a simpler, less interconnected, and unaccountable population. I would agree with his arguments and conclusions if we lived in France in 1840.

    Claiming that Constitutionally authorized taxation constitutes "legalized plunder" amounts to a disingenuous, simplistic view of the realities of the 21st Century. Were Bastiat writing today he would modify his utopian thesis in order to remain relevant.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:35 AM
  • *

    If that's Fox KFTK in St. Louis, it's just "limbaughism" without the "Rush." Then you apparently have Hannity and Levin and other Limbaugh clones to keep you misinformed. That's funny.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:26 AM

    Typical coming from you Ulrich. Anybody that disagrees with you has to be wrong. I mostly listen to Kilmeade in the morning and turn it off. I happen to be conservative and want to hear what is going on without the slant from the Left Wing Media that have been delivering as much or more in the way of lies vs the truth.

    So go ahead and talk down anybody who disagrees with you, it's typical of a Leftist, it's compromise and agree with them or it's the highway.

    Must be miserable in that narrow little mind set you have there.

    Have you downloaded and read any of Frederic Basteat's book, The Law, or is there no room in your narrow little tunnel of darkness for a little light?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:46 AM
  • *

    Were Bastiat writing today he would modify his utopian thesis in order to remain relevant.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:35 AM

    Your opinion not fact. Some people's convictions of right and wrong cannot be swayed by a nutcase movement towatrds Socialism and Communism. Perhaps you like the thought of living under Totalitarianism...... it terrifies me.

    Wouldn't you just love living with Hillary Clinton as your Supreme Commandeer?

    Out for a spell.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:52 AM
  • Claiming that Constitutionally authorized taxation constitutes "legalized plunder" amounts to a disingenuous, simplistic view of the realities of the 21st Century. Were Bastiat writing today he would modify his utopian thesis in order to remain relevant.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:35 AM

    Please show me where it's stated in the USA Constitution that Health Care is a guaranteed Right or the mandate to purchase a specific Commerce from the Federal Government .

    If not , these would be un-Constitutional "legalized plunder" , I'm sure there's many more .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:32 PM
  • So Ulrich is still concerned about who listens to which radio personality over principles the founders established to bring the colonies together into states of a united nation. In the simplest terms it was a central set of rules that all agreed upon to follow so certain individual God given rights would be acknowledged and protected throughout the new nation.

    Although I don't think "legal plunder was coined by Rush or Basteat, one might go back to examine John Adams' interjections and find the idea was recognized as an end result if property rights were not upheld as a God given right. Without rights of ownership tyranny has an inroad into a free society.

    I don't expect Lettau to give this thought but I must propose an example of today's world.

    If an honest 'mom and pop' deposits their receipts of just under $10,000 each Friday, should the IRS seize there bank account and use forfeiture laws to spread the money confiscated to law enforcement agencies without proof or criminal conviction? Sounds like legal plunder to me.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:51 PM
  • If an honest 'mom and pop' deposits their receipts of just under $10,000 each Friday, should the IRS seize there bank account and use forfeiture laws to spread the money confiscated to law enforcement agencies without proof or criminal conviction? Sounds like legal plunder to me.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 7:51 PM

    No , the Government should not take any Mom and Pop's or an other small local entrepenuar's profits at it's disgressions of amounts . This is illegal theft from the Peoples who the Government works for , it is also taxation without Representation .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 8:11 PM
  • "...money confiscated to law enforcement agencies without proof or criminal conviction? Sounds like legal plunder to me."

    Seems to be so, what's that got to do with Constitutionally mandated income tax?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:46 AM
  • "Perhaps you like the thought of living under Totalitarianism...... it terrifies me."

    Of course I don't "...like the thought of living under Totalitarianism..." Why would I?

    The probability of that happening is right there next to zero. Seems like there are all kinds of things that "terrify" you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:53 AM
  • "...want to hear what is going on without the slant from the Left Wing Media..."

    So rather than thinking for yourself, you swallow "alternative facts" spewed out by the slanted right wing media.

    That makes all the sense in the world.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:58 AM
  • "Anybody that disagrees with you has to be wrong."

    That's your opinion. You can disagree to your heart's content, you may be right or you may be wrong. I'm not concerned with your opinions, I just react to your getting the facts wrong.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 7:24 AM
  • “or is there no room in your narrow little tunnel of darkness for a little light?”

    That’s another example of your leaping to and drawing false conclusions.

    Actually, I did download it and read portions. This summarizes it pretty well.

    “Let Us Now Try Liberty”

    “God has given to men all that is necessary for them to accomplish their destinies. He has provided a social form as well as a human form. And these social organs of persons are so constituted that they will develop themselves harmoniously in the clean air of liberty. Away, then, with quacks and organizers! Away with their rings, chains, hooks, and pincers! Away with their artificial systems! Away with the whims of governmental administrators, their socialized projects, their centralization, their tariffs, their government schools, their state religions, their free credit, their bank monopolies, their regulations, their restrictions, their equalization by taxation, and their pious moralizations!

    “And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works.”

    As mentioned before, this would work perfectly if individual human beings were sufficiently separated from each other so all could live in utopian harmony.

    Unfortunately, that’s not the case. Consider how much time, over many centuries, theologians have spent pondering (in one form or another) the question, “Why doesn’t God just make everyone get along?”

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 7:28 AM
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    "Perhaps you like the thought of living under Totalitarianism...... it terrifies me."

    Of course I don't "...like the thought of living under Totalitarianism..." Why would I?

    The probability of that happening is right there next to zero. Seems like there are all kinds of things that "terrify" you.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:53 AM

    "The probability of that happening is right there next to zero."

    And that little quote from your post says it all. Instead of being vigilant always that power hungry politicians do not taken your freedom from you.... you have blind faith in them.

    One only has to look at the span of our lifetime to see the freedoms that have been lost.

    I will give you just one, you can think for yourself and see the creeping Socialism in this country.

    Forced participation in the purchase of a commodity by government edict. And if they can do it on healthcare, they can do it on every facit of your life. You are a fool if you think it will stop there.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:07 AM
  • *

    "...want to hear what is going on without the slant from the Left Wing Media..."

    So rather than thinking for yourself, you swallow "alternative facts" spewed out by the slanted right wing media.

    That makes all the sense in the world.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:58 AM

    Ulrich

    Your constant condescending criticism of other for what they might listen to in the form of news and or opinion grows stale. It is you that is listening to only one side of the story to form your opinions. Your listening to Rush Limbaugh is only for the purpose of finding something to be critical of in my opinion.

    Many, but not all of the Fox news commentators, will have someone from the left as well as the right to debate a position. How often do you find that on your leftist mainstream media stations. As a matter of fact your Leftist media will often bury a news story if it is not favorable to their position. I prefer hearing what both sides are thinking. It helps me in forming my own opinion.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:26 AM
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    “Why doesn’t God just make everyone get along?” -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 7:28 AM

    Theologians? Nah. That's an atheist statement if ever there was one. Not surprising coming from you.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:46 AM
  • "Many, but not all of the Fox news commentators, will have someone from the left as well as the right to debate a position."

    Really, the last one I was aware of is when Hannity kicked Combs off their show.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:32 AM
  • "Instead of being vigilant always that power hungry politicians do not taken your freedom from you.... you have blind faith in them."

    How has this "blind faith" been demonstrated?

    There are several areas where I agree with conservative positions.

    I have mentioned specific issues where I disagreed with President Obama.

    I have stipulated that Hillary Clinton is no more honest or dishonest than any other politician.

    I have pointed out that the conservatives do not have a corner on wacko fundamentalists, and that leftists have their own group of crazies.

    Being realistic does not preclude being vigilant, but being terrified can obviously lead to misinterpreting normal human progress for the end of the world.

    You may look at the few "freedoms" that you think are lost, and I look at the multitude of freedoms that have been retained.

    If you want to wallow in negativity, have at it. My outlook for the nation is still overwhelmingly positive (and that's in spite of President Trump, not because of him.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:46 AM
  • *

    Really, the last one I was aware of is when Hannity kicked Combs off their show.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:32 AM

    That is total BS! I am not referring to the Commentators themselves but their guests. I have no idea the cause of their split, and I doubt you do either.

    Tucker Carlson has people with opposing view ongoing. Watch him sometime. You might learn something.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:49 AM
  • "I prefer hearing what both sides are thinking. It helps me in forming my own opinion."

    I agree completely, but if you believe you're getting that from Fox, you're deluding yourself.

    Try listening to MSNBC for another viewpoint, or better yet listen to NPR.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:49 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:46 AM

    Will address this ration of BS later. Not enough time this morning.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:51 AM
  • "Will address this ration of BS later."

    Don't bother, you have made precious little sense so far...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 12:14 PM
  • “Why doesn’t God just make everyone get along?”

    Which God ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 1:29 PM
  • There's a difference between being positive and being a realist . What's really going on behind the closed doors of Washington , DC during the Trump dog~n~pony show . That good old , "Look at the shiny coin." distraction trick only works for so long . Isn't it getting almost the same as the Obama traveling Circus ?

    "Everything looks different when you're standing still."

    ~~ Oscho

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 1:55 PM
  • Rick Lettau

    I will ask again , please show me which Article or Clause of the USA Constitution guarantees the Government the Right to mandate the People to purchase a specific Commerce against their will .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:31 PM
  • The Peoples do not have Rights , they now have privileges which can be given or taken away as seen fit to the Government's agenda .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:34 PM
  • *

    “Why doesn’t God just make everyone get along?” -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 7:28 AM

    Common: Because God gave all of us a Free Mind to do what we want to do.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:37 PM
  • "...mandate the People to purchase a specific Commerce against their will."

    It's right there with the clause that says they have to pay taxes "against their will."

    Life's tough, you can't have everything go your way.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 6:04 PM
  • Taxes are a Commerce ? Please show me the Article or Clause that includes Health Care . You can't because there isn't one .

    I know life is tough and everything isn't going to go my way -- do you ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:05 PM
  • Taxes are not a purchase . What school did you go to ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:07 PM
  • Rick Lettau

    You must be all in for Trump's new taxes . It's a great buy !!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:14 PM
  • "Life's tough, you can't have everything go your way."

    Tell this to your Entitlement crowd .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM
  • That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    July 4 , 1776

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:34 PM
  • Seems like "...light and transient causes..." is all you have.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 9:19 PM
  • Even before the founders put our constitution together Americans were aware of the failures of democratic rule. The French people made it obvious that democracy was five wolves and one lamb voting on what's for dinner.

    The supporters of democratic rule evolved to challenge the republic once elected representatives learned the power they had within a satisfied constituency as the principles of individualism improved their lives.

    They have used many names, Progressive, Liberal, Democrat, Populist, Socialist and more but the end goal is always the same; Reduce all citizens to equal class to be ruled by the elite.

    A good way to address light and transient causes of concern before they grow into reason to throw off completely would be to Drain The Swamp and I applaud the president for pointing out what the majority of Americans support.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:29 PM
  • *

    "Instead of being vigilant always that power hungry politicians do not taken your freedom from you.... you have blind faith in them."

    How has this "blind faith" been demonstrated?

    There are several areas where I agree with conservative positions.

    I have mentioned specific issues where I disagreed with President Obama.

    I have stipulated that Hillary Clinton is no more honest or dishonest than any other politician.

    I have pointed out that the conservatives do not have a corner on wacko fundamentalists, and that leftists have their own group of crazies.

    Being realistic does not preclude being vigilant, but being terrified can obviously lead to misinterpreting normal human progress for the end of the world.

    You may look at the few "freedoms" that you think are lost, and I look at the multitude of freedoms that have been retained.

    If you want to wallow in negativity, have at it. My outlook for the nation is still overwhelmingly positive (and that's in spite of President Trump, not because of him.)

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 10:46AM

    1.)""Instead of being vigilant always that power hungry politicians do not taken your freedom from you.... you have blind faith in them."

    How has this "blind faith" been demonstrated?"

    That is an easy one Ulrich. You support and defend every atrocity the Leftist Democrats come up with. You did it at 6:04 PM this evening. You defended the Leftist Democrats right to require people to buy a commodity, specifically health care insurance. It is ongoing with you. Explain, lie and explain some more to justify whatever it is the Leftists come up with.

    2.) "There are several areas where I agree with conservative positions."

    How about naming a couple?

    3.) "I have mentioned specific issues where I disagreed with President Obama."

    Again name a couple that amount to anything.

    4.)"I have stipulated that Hillary Clinton is no more honest or dishonest than any other politician."

    "stipulate - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/stipulate

    To stipulate something means to demand that it be part of an agreement. So when you make a contract or deal, you can stipulate that a certain condition must be ..."

    I wouldn't sign on to any agreement that that says Hillary Clinton is no more dishonest than any other politician. Hillary and Bill Clinton are the two most morally bankrupt individuals in America today in my opinion.

    5.) "I have pointed out that the conservatives do not have a corner on wacko fundamentalists, and that leftists have their own group of crazies."

    Hmmm, must have missed that statement on your part. Would you like to point out a couple of those Democratic "crazies". I would like to be aware of them.

    6.) "Being realistic does not preclude being vigilant, but being terrified can obviously lead to misinterpreting normal human progress for the end of the world."

    I was very specific in what terrifies me. So you may stop your cockamamie statements that I am terrified of anything else. I will state it again.... Living under totalitarianism terrifies me. It is not the life I want to see for my Graandchildren. Try not putting words in others mouths Ulrichy it is dishonesty at it's worst.

    7.) "You may look at the few "freedoms" that you think are lost, and I look at the multitude of freedoms that have been retained.

    If you want to wallow in negativity, have at it. My outlook for the nation is still overwhelmingly positive (and that's in spite of President Trump, not because of him.)"

    Tell me for what reason any law abiding American should lose even one of his freedoms. And a milquetoast like you is happy for just those freedoms your politicians have allowed you to retain.... how pathetic to hear that from an American citizen!

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:01 AM
  • Wheels, Not sure what a milquetoast is but that last part nails it.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:17 AM
  • "...what a milquetoast is..."

    It can be best described as weak-kneed conservatives that appear easily terrified by imagined perils.

    As in finding phantom "totalitarianists" taking over the nation and being terrified by that.

    This is in spite of the fact that the probability of the US becoming a totalitarian state in the foreseeable future is about zero.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:00 AM
  • "...should lose even one of his freedoms."

    So you've lost the freedom to hold and breed slaves.

    You've lost the freedom to keep women and minorities from voting.

    You've lost the freedom to have a government without paying income tax.

    The Bill of Rights has not been repealed.

    What rights do you think you've lost?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:09 AM
  • Seems like "...light and transient causes..." is all you have.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 9:19 PM

    I have "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

    "...light and transient causes..." is all you have or believe would be more like it . It is not me who sucks at the Government teat for breath , livelihood , or dependence . It is not me who allows , or demands , the Government to decide my fate in life .

    You see , for I'm a rebel , I think Independently , I need not the Government to draw a breath , to tell me which is up or which is down .

    .............

    https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23621212_507548506277878_628353094...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:12 AM
  • "Hillary and Bill Clinton are the two most morally bankrupt individuals in America today in my opinion."

    That's all it is, your opinion. Perhaps you forgot the "I can grab them by the *****" guy.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:13 AM
  • "Again name a couple that amount to anything."

    Dropping the pursuit of Simpson-Bowles.

    Not qualifying claims on the ACA startup.

    Supporting gays and women in front line ground combat units.

    Not pushing the Congress for a balanced budget.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:16 AM
  • *

    That's all it is, your opinion. Perhaps you forgot the "I can grab them by the *****" guy. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:13 AM

    All talk. Now about Bill Clinton and his raping / assaulting of women? Who you voted for twice? And his wife you've adored on here for years?

    You're a liberal hack and a joke.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:18 AM
  • "How about naming a couple?"

    Reducing the size and cost of government.

    Stabilizing Medicare and Social Security to self sufficiency.

    Decreasing welfare and increasing "workfare."

    Revising the tax code to decrease the deficit, which used to be a republican/conservative position, except now they want to increase the deficit by a trillion and a half dollars.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • What Freedom has not been morphed or is not being morphed into a privilege ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:24 AM
  • "...defend every atrocity the Leftist Democrats come up with."

    It's of course very difficult to imagine what you consider an "atrocity."

    The ACA ended up with millions of Americans getting coverage where they had none before. And 2/3's of the country wasn't affected by it because of being on Medicare/Medicaid or employer provided insurance. How "atrocious!"

    I have rationale for positions I defend, as opposed to others that attack positions without reason.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:29 AM
  • "It is not me who sucks at the Government teat for breath , livelihood, or dependence. It is not me who allows, or demands, the Government to decide my fate in life."

    I'm very happy for you. It's not me either, nor is it the majority of Americans.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "You see, for I'm a rebel, I think Independently..."

    ...but with an extremely vivid imagination.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:34 AM
  • *

    Reducing the size and cost of government. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:22 AM

    HAHAHAHAHAH! And you voted TWICE for a man who doubled the US debt and whined when anyone criticized that.

    Thanks for the laugh!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:36 AM
  • .............

    https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23621212_507548506277878_628353094...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:12 AM

    Nice cartoon, and the line on the right is naturally (not coincidentally) the President Trump line.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:37 AM
  • "I have "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

    You may have a personal set or cause, but that does not make it a national cause.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:43 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:37 AM

    ‘What About Bill?’ Sexual Misconduct Debate Revives Questions About Clinton - MSNBC

    For Lettau. One of his democrat gods is getting a little comeuppance. Better defend him - he's all yours.

    Of course you can't discern between bad locker room talk and rape / assault with those alt-left blinders on.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:44 AM
  • Nice cartoon, and the line on the right is naturally (not coincidentally) the President Trump line.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:37 AM

    Wow , you like Trump too .

    ................

    "You see, for I'm a rebel, I think Independently..."

    ...but with an extremely vivid imagination.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:34 AM

    It's called keeping an open mind , try it , you might like it . Don't think outside of the box , get rid of the box .

    The Government has become too big of a comfort zone for too many .

    .................

    Regarding the ACA , it can not affect too little and affect too many at the same time . Taxes are not a purchase .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:53 AM
  • You're not a stupid person .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:54 AM
  • *

    Dang, I must have hit a nerve.

    Obamacare, in spite of Ulrich's ranting this morning has touched every American. It has done so, with it's mandates, it has dones so with it's ridiculous increase in premiums, it has done so with it's ridiculous increase in deductables and it has done all of this despite the biggest Democrat lie of all that it will reduce the costs of healthcare costs.

    Rant on Little Man!

    And while you're at it, tell Nancy Pelosi to help take this burden from us. We have seen what's in it and we don't like it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:27 AM
  • *

    You're not a stupid person .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:54 AM

    Rick.... not sure I can agree with you on that one.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:30 AM
  • Wheels

    Can't say as there's any stupid posters . Some crazy opinions at times but nobody stupid...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:37 AM
  • *

    Rick,

    Rick,

    Here is what Merriam-Webster says about Stupid.

    Definition of stupid

    1 a :slow of mind :obtuse

    b :given to unintelligent decisions or acts :acting in an unintelligent or careless manner

    c :lacking intelligence or reason :brutish

    You don't think definition "b" fits?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM
  • "Dang, I must have hit a nerve."

    Not in the least. Why would I concern myself about things you don't understand?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:52 AM
  • *

    Why would I concern myself about things you don't understand?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 8:52 AM

    Ulrich,

    From your ranting this morning, you seemed plenty concerned.

    So far as, if or not I understand.... in my many years running my own business I received a liberal education in understanding. Most important, I learned to spot a "four flusher" in record time.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 9:35 AM
  • "...you seemed plenty concerned."

    No ranting, no concern, pretty clear evidence of my earlier point.

    Nevertheless, congratulations on your many years of running your business, but that may also be a contributing factor in your plight.

    Individuals doing the same thing year after year, often have a tendency to be dogmatic and self-opinionated. They are more than a little sheltered, limited in their exposure to the rest of the world and routinely exhibit a false sense of arrogance. Many that claim to have "40 years of experience" when in actuality they've only had "1 year of experience, 40 times over."

    But in any case, I'm sure you're not like that.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:42 PM
  • *

    - Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:42 PM

    Ulrich

    It should be obvious to anyone reading this..... you spent a good portion of your life working for the government, where productivity and reason rarely applies.

    It would also be obvious by anyone who has walked the walk, not just talked the talk, that you know little to nothing of how a successful business operates. The only thing that can be depended on to remain the same is "change".

    No two customers are exactly the same, not to mention what they want or require is rarely close to the same in the service industry. No two employees are the same, nor are your suppliers. And no two years are the same in a company affected by the seasons. Same applies fo most if not all businesses. Try buying a few truckloads of air conditioners on a pre-season discount program with 90 day terms. You will be amazed how quickly 90 days pass and how much you can sweat in spite of the unseasonably cool temperatures.

    Give running your own business a try sometime Little Man, you will find out that your assumptions are seriously flawed.

    PS: Let me know if you should decide to do so Ulrich, I would love to monitor your progress.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 3:09 PM
  • How hard could it be, you've been doing it, and I offered congratulations on your success. You should be pleased.

    As for my government service, it was in the military, where productivity, reason and performance do count. Possibly that's something you're unfamiliar with, but that seems to go along with tunnel vision.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 3:36 PM
  • It takes all kinds of ingredients to make a good pot of chili ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 5:06 PM
  • It's those folks who insist the will of the Government be mandated on the rest of the Peoples that I have problems with .

    Everyone are individuals , oppressions and controls of Government on any individual's life forcing conformity is not Liberty nor is it Freedom .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 6:16 PM
  • Is Twitter running the USA ??

    ................

    Pentagon retweets then deletes post calling on Trump to resign

    By Ellen Mitchell - 11/16/17 03:09 PM EST

    The Pentagon’s official Twitter account on Thursday retweeted then quickly deleted a post that included a call for President Trump to resign.

    The Defense Department account, which has more than 5.2 million followers, retweeted a post that called for Trump to resign from the presidency, for Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore to end his campaign and for Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) to resign from Congress.

    Pentagon spokesman Col. Rob Manning said in a statement that an authorized operator of the Defense Department's official Twitter site “erroneously retweeted content that would not be endorsed by the Department of Defense. The operator caught this error and immediately deleted it.”

    http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/360739-pentagon-retweets-then-deletes-pos...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 6:32 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 6:39 PM
  • Love hearing how a military career makes one an individual thinker. I'll bet common related to his superiors his reason and productivity performance when he was told to type that in triplicate.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 9:55 PM
  • *

    Richard

    Try this.....

    milquetoast

    [milk-tohst]

    Spell Syllables

    Examples Word Origin

    See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com

    noun, ( sometimes initial capital letter)

    1.

    a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, especially one who is easily dominated or intimidated:

    a milquetoast who's afraid to ask for a raise.

    Expand

    Also called Caspar Milquetoast.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:20 PM
  • Ralph, Are you suggesting a milquetoast would ride out his career with no accomplishment in exchange for an easy go of it and more perks in lieu of advancement just to up his pension amount and then proclaim his experience is the basis for his superior opinion?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:43 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:43 PM

    Something like that! :-)

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 12:28 AM
  • "...a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, especially one who is easily dominated or intimidated"

    Describes exactly, a weak-kneed conservative that is terrified.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 6:39 AM
  • "...how a military career makes one an individual thinker."

    Just out of curiosity, how many career military members do you really know? Or even anyone that has been in the military?

    Bit ironic that the only individuals keeping the current administration from descending from mostly failure to total failure, are the career military officers in control.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 6:48 AM
  • *

    Describes exactly, a weak-kneed conservative that is terrified.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 6:39 AM

    Now you're back to your lying Ulrich, or can't you understand specifics?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 7:55 AM
  • *

    "Just out of curiosity, how many career military members do you really know? Or even anyone that has been in the military?"

    Quite a few Ulrich.

    I hired two after their military careers. One was excellent. The other was an expert in getting around authority instead of following direction.

    So far as been in the military, 5 uncles in WWII plus numerous older cousins, not to mention at least three that served in the Civil War, that's just a few Ulrich.

    I hope the army wasn't where you picked up.your habit of lying about facts.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:13 AM
  • *

    Bit ironic that the only individuals keeping the current administration from descending from mostly failure to total failure, are the career military officers in control. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 6:48 AM

    Bit ironic that the individuals that kept the Obama administration descending into failure, lies, doubling the debt and weakening the US were socialist / communists like yourself.

    Didn't seem to bother you then. Especially Obama's disdain for the military and distrust of them.

    You have no credibility on this.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:22 AM
  • "...that's just a few..."

    It would appear that you learned nothing from them.

    "...habit of lying about facts."

    There is no lie told. You are the one that admitted to being terrified, and you seem to be a conservative. If you claim to be only "terrified of a totalitarian government" it does not alter the fact that you are a terrified conservative. Why should I believe otherwise?

    Try being honest for a change, instead of trying to weasel out of everything. Perhaps the simplest solution would be for you to acknowledge that the likelihood of a totalitarian government in the US is close to zero, then you wouldn't have to be so "terrified" of anything.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:30 AM
  • *

    You are the one that admitted to being terrified, and you seem to be a conservative. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:30 AM

    ===

    When it comes to gun laws, the NRA has a stronger hold on Congress than people do. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 10:12 AM

    do you actually believe that the guy could have killed all of those people with his bare hands? -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 8:05 AM

    So when will the "time" be here? When there is a Sutherland Springs style church shooting ever day, will it be "time?" When there are several Newtown School style shootings per week, will it be "time?" -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM

    It appears that Congress and the NRA thinks the way to find "crazies" is to give them guns and see if they shoot a bunch of people. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 10:09 AM

    ===

    You're the one that is terrified. Skeered those gun owners in their dhows are coming up Cripple Creek to get ya. Hide in your basement!

    Oh - and what did your beloved socialist / progressive democrats do when they controlled all branches of government?

    Nothing. You don't care about any issue except power and control by your leftist party. It's obvious. You constantly contradict yourself.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:39 AM
  • "Bit ironic that the only individuals keeping the current administration from descending from mostly failure to total failure......."

    Tell us what is mostly failure of the current administration.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 9:27 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:59 AM
  • ooppss

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:59 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:00 AM
  • House Passed Tax Cut :

    A.) 20% Corporate Tax rate set permanent

    B.) Middle Tax rate temporary , set to change beginning 2021

    C.) 7 Tax brackets cut to 4 tax brackets

    .................

    Senate debate on Tax Cuts :

    A.) 20% Corporate Tax rate set permanent

    B.) Middle Tax rate temporary

    C.) SALT deduction eliminated

    C.) 7 Tax brackets cut to 4 tax brackets

    D.) Individual mandate of Health Insurance (PPACA) Eliminated for $333 Billion savings in Revenue

    ............

    My question , why do "Republicans" feel the need to get involved with State and local taxes , these should be determined by each individual State and/or local Community and not a Federal Central Government . The Federal Central Government controlling or getting involved with SALT is no different then imposing the PPACA on citizens , it's the PPACA all over again .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:14 AM
  • Ralph, Are you suggesting a milquetoast would ride out his career with no accomplishment in exchange for an easy go of it and more perks in lieu of advancement just to up his pension amount and then proclaim his experience is the basis for his superior opinion?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:43 PM

    All Veterans guarantee the life Americans live which other Nations of the World die trying to get in by legal or illegal means . All Veterans should receive full medical Health Care from whichever doctor they choose at no expense or penalty and given highest priority for any education or employment at no expense .

    The exception would be the deserters and/or the traitors to the Nation...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:22 AM
  • Trump wants to raise USA Defense Spending to $600 Billion dollars . How much of this $600 billion dollars will be used to take care of the USA Veterans ?

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:27 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:39 AM
  • Tell us what is mostly failure of the current administration.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 9:27 AM

    Causing NATO nations to consider the US an unreliable partner.

    Failing to bring back all those jobs from China as promised to the Rust Belt.

    Relinquishing leadership in Pacific trade to the Chinese and the TPP.

    Allowing pollution increases.

    Failed to stop North Korea in any way.

    Failure to capitalize on the republican lack of an ACA replacement, by agreeing to a bi-partisan ACA fix.

    Abdicating world leadership in green and alternative energy to Europe and China.

    Causing American states, cities and industry to assume lead in world climate change negotiations.

    Failure to reopen thermal coal mines as promised to West Virginians.

    Failure to adequately staff State Department.

    Degrading state of race relations by support to alt-right and white supremacists.

    Failed to fulfill his inaugural to stop carnage right here, right now.

    Failed to sign an infrastructure program.

    Failed to "build the wall" (which is a good thing since Mexico was never going to pay for it any how.)

    Abandoning US leadership of the world in supporting human and civil rights.

    Need more?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • *

    Talking Point Ulrich, strictly Talking Points.

    Here is how to get them folks.

    http://my.democrats.org/page/s/talkingpoints

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 1:31 PM
  • Causing NATO nations to consider the US an unreliable partner.

    Lettau making it up as he goes?

    Failing to bring back all those jobs from China as promised to the Rust Belt.

    May take awhile to undo what the progressives have caused when your party is more concerned with undoing the fair and legal election.

    Relinquishing leadership in Pacific trade to the Chinese and the TPP.

    Why should he or the U.S. want to lead in the direction it has been going?

    Allowing pollution increases.

    Returning the EPA back to the purpose of clean air and water is not allowing pollution increases.

    Failed to stop North Korea in any way.

    When did they last launch a missile over a Pacific country?

    Failure to capitalize on the republican lack of an ACA replacement, by agreeing to a bi-partisan ACA fix.

    There is no failure in not giving up and letting the ones that got us into the mess get us in deeper.

    Abdicating world leadership in green and alternative energy to Europe and China.

    More your opinion than fact.

    Causing American states, cities and industry to assume lead in world climate change negotiations.

    Not causing but allowing.

    Failure to reopen thermal coal mines as promised to West Virginians.

    The failure was your boy's in deliberately causing them to close.

    Failure to adequately staff State Department.

    somewhere around 70,000 people known to be on that payroll now, How many more Obama people do you want added to be adequate?

    Degrading state of race relations by support to alt-right and white supremacists.

    Which of Obama's 57 states is the state of race relations? Figured you would find a way to repeat the left wing claim of racism and you did.

    Don't have time to finish my response to your reword and repeat of talking points not yours originally.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 1:56 PM
  • Perhaps it would be to you advantage to brush up on the facts and review the blatant failures one more time realistically.

    good example...

    "German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a crowd Sunday in southern Germany that Europe can no longer rely on foreign partners. According to The Washington Post:

    "Merkel on Sunday declared a new chapter in U.S.-European relations after contentious meetings with President Trump last week, saying that Europe 'really must take our fate into our own hands.'

    "Offering a tough review in the wake of Trump's trip to visit E.U., NATO and Group of Seven leaders last week, Merkel told a packed Bavarian beer hall rally that the days when Europe could rely on others was 'over to a certain extent. This is what I have experienced in the last few days.'"

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-merkel-trump-analysis...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM
  • *

    "Merkel told a packed Bavarian beer hall rally that the days when Europe could rely on others was 'over to a certain extent."

    No crap!! We had to re build their country for them after we had to step in and blow it up to help Europe out to keep Germany from owning them. Don't you think it's about time Angie and the rest of Europe takes the bull by the horns and becomes self supporting?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 3:26 PM
  • *

    "Merkel on Sunday declared a new chapter in U.S.-European relations after contentious meetings with President Trump last week, saying that Europe 'really must take our fate into our own hands." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM

    You've expanded your welfare "free stuff" attitude from the US to Europe now. Grows on trees doesn't it? From a guy who's been on the govt teat for so long he doesn't even know how to be independent.

    Keep your hands out of our pockets.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 4:20 PM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM

    You know that is an opinion piece from back in May don't you?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 6:42 PM
  • "May take awhile to undo..."

    How long should it take for him to move the production for his own factories back to the US from China"

    "Why should he or the U.S. want to lead..."

    Because sitting on our collective hands while China enjoys growth does nothing for our economy.

    "Returning the EPA back to the purpose..."

    That's just it. Telling coal companies they can now dump toxic waste into streams is not the purpose.

    "When did they last launch a missile over a Pacific country?"

    Not until this year. The President has no clue about what to do about it.

    "There is no failure in not giving up..."

    There is failure in trying to undermine it. As of that moment, the administration owns the ACA.

    "Not causing but allowing."

    It's a good thing that some in the US understand science.

    "....deliberately causing them to close."

    That's silly. They closed because natural gas was cheaper and cleaner.

    "...somewhere around 70,000 people..."

    Over half are foreign nationals working for embassies. May want to hire a few ambassadors and help for Secretary Tillerson.

    "...to repeat the left wing claim of racism..."

    How is it a claim if it's actually happening?

    Like I said, go back and learn some facts...

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 7:00 PM
  • "...rest of Europe takes the bull by the horns and becomes self supporting?"

    There's another clear misconception. We're not in NATO solely to support Europe, we're into defend the US over there rather than over here.

    Is this something you understand?

    "NATO Article 5

    Collective defence means that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies. The principle of collective defence is enshrined in Article 5 of the Washington Treaty. NATO invoked Article 5 for the first time in its history after the 9/11 terrorist attacks against the United States.

    Now the President says he may not honor Article 5.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 7:06 PM
  • *

    Now the President says he may not honor Article 5.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 7:06 PM

    Common: When and where did President Trump make that statement. He's trying to make the members pay more of their share of the cost to maintain NATO.

    *******

    Poor ole Hillary is getting scared that she will be investigated by a special prosecutor in her Email, Uranium One, and Clinton Foundation schemes. She is already being measured for an orange jumpsuit.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:47 PM
  • Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM

    Racism is based on thinking one race is superior over another. We were getting over that idea before Obama stirred the pot.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:29 PM
  • *

    Right now I would bet crazy Al Frankin is a firm believer that one picture is as good as a thousand words.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:39 PM
  • Frankin being elected set the standard for democrat election fraud.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:05 PM
  • Which President has stopped North Korea in any way from doing what it wants ?

    .........................

    "Failure to capitalize on the republican lack of an ACA replacement, by agreeing to a bi-partisan ACA fix."

    This is wrong on two levels . First , it was forced on the American Peoples by a 100% Partisan Legislation , there was no negotiating or agreement in 2010 . Second , the 100% Partisan Legislation was the perfect answer , no negotiation was necessary , remember ? It only had to be passed to see what was in it . Why fix the perfect thing when it's not broke unless it was a lie from the get-go ?

    "If you like your Insurance you can keep it . Period."...the man wouldn't lie now , would he ?

    "Let's pass this Bill to see what's in it." ...the woman is a career liar believed by fools .

    Central Government does not work .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 3:52 AM
  • Bones , Gregdogg , myself , and son are off to Pine Ridge with a couple three loads of winter supplies .

    Consider the very first Thanksgiving when everyone stopped to celebrate the Spirit of thnx for what they had , there's plenty of time to start fighting the good fight after Thanksgiving is over . Have a good one with family and friends ..

    Peace out

    Wank-ta Tan-ka !

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 4:01 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 4:01 AM

    Rick: Have a safe trip.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 8:15 AM
  • *

    Racism is based on thinking one race is superior over another. We were getting over that idea before Obama stirred the pot. - Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:29 PM

    Exactly. And now the race-baiters like Sneller run around throwing the term around just for quoting statistics or facts regarding police v. black v. police killings.

    Dems MUST divide to conquer. It has worked for them. Now they are pushing "separate but equal" facilities for blacks. Just like they did when they ruled the Southern US.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 8:31 AM
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    Now they are pushing "separate but equal" facilities for blacks. Just like they did when they ruled the Southern US.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 8:31 AM

    You do understand though, if that happens, whites will not be permitted in the black facilities but. blacks will be permitted to go where they please. Anything less than that will bring on the screams of racism and protesting, with the blocking of traffic, interference with commerce and claims of Police brutality.

    Why can't we associate with the black and white people we respect and ignore those of either race that we have little to no respect for?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:14 AM
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    Why can't we associate with the black and white people we respect and ignore those of either race that we have little to no respect for? -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:14 AM

    Exactly. In the lies and spin from the Mizzou fiasco years ago the school administration never once pointed out that there are 53 minority-only groups at Mizzou. 53. Sponsored and overseen by the University. The student body president was black. The homecoming king was black. All of this before the lies coming out of that place.

    Does that sound like a place that has rampant "systemic racism"? Or "systematic racism" as they claimed?

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:24 AM
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    Definitely not. Wonder if the career student with the multi million dollar black Father is still gainfully employed as a student at Columbia?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 10:15 AM
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    Dang, just heard on the car radio a few minutes ago that President Trump interceded with the President of China to get three of our thieving basket ball players released and headed for home. Why not big headlines. When Obama procured the release of an American Deserter with 5 Muslim Terrorists we had in captivity he received nothing but adulation from the Leftist Media.

    In the case of the current release it cost taxpayers nothing. In the case of the Deserter's release, would anyone want to speculate on what that cost us ending with the conviction of the Deserter.

    Fair and Balanced, Fair and Balanced!

    No doubt about it Trump is a better negotiator.

    Then there was the American that Mexico had imprisoned. Guess Mexico didn't want any Muslim Terrorists as Ransom.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 5:51 PM
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    Found on the internet. Party who put the list together never left a name but I wish he/she had as I would like to tell them how much I agree with them.

    Just One More Thing

    Just one more thing on ObamaCare Repeal:

    Since only 8 million people have ObamaCare, how will 24 million people die if it is repealed? Will 16 million people be randomly shot?

    Just one more thing on Donald Trump:

    If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with BleachBit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the mainstream media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him innocent?

    Just one more thing on equal pay:

    If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do the same job for more money?

    Just one more thing on Sanctuary Cities:

    If you rob a bank in a Sanctuary City, is it illegal or is it just an Undocumented Withdrawal?

    Just one more thing on ISIS:

    Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS attacks during Obama's term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs.

    Just one more thing on the London 'Lone Wolf' terror attack:

    After the London "Lone Wolf" terrorist attack government officials have arrested at least eight other "Lone Wolves" who had conspired with the original "Lone Wolf" in planning the "Lone Wolf" attack. Even though all involved are Muslims, you can be assured, the "Lone Wolf" attack has nothing at all to do with Islam, just like the other 1000 plus "Lone Wolf" attacks by Muslims, are completely unassociated with Islam.

    Just one more thing on Entitlements:

    We should stop calling them all "Entitlements."

    Welfare, Food Stamps, WIC, ad nauseum are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts, and shouldn't be called entitlements at all.

    Social Security and Veterans Benefits are entitlements because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

    Just one more thing on the Muslim Refugees:

    If Muslims want to run away from a Muslim country, does that mean they're Islamophobic?

    Just one more thing on The Women's March:

    If Liberals don't believe in biological gender, why did they march for women's rights?

    Just one more thing on the Russians hacking the election:

    How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal the Primary from Bernie Sanders? How did Russia get Donna Brazile to leak debate questions to Hillary Clinton in advance of the debates?

    Just one more thing on Democrats and the Electoral College:

    Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a problem with the Electoral College?

    Just one more thing on the FBI and elections:

    If you don't want the FBI involved in elections, don't nominate someone who's being investigated by the FBI.

    Just one more thing on Hillary's speeches:

    If Hillary's speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to her free ones?

    Just one more thing on Russia manipulating our election:

    The DNC is mad at Russia because they “think" they are trying to manipulate our election by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our election?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:30 PM
  • Makes me think Obama was more interested in freeing the terrorists than getting Birddog back. Kind of like trading 2 rooks, 2 bishops and a castle for a defective pawn.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:32 PM
  • It's fortunate that Mr. VanGennip has the internet to do his thinking for him.

    It's unfortunate that what he chooses to believe is virtually always inaccurate, misleading or just plain false.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:36 AM
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    It's unfortunate that what he chooses to believe is virtually always inaccurate, misleading or just plain false.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:36 AM

    What in that post was inaccurate Ulrich....

    * Some of it?

    * All of it?

    * None of it?

    Unlike you, I never used that form to sign up for the DNC "Talking Points".

    I am not a single source searcher for my information. There is radio, TV, newspapers, word of mouth and yes even the internet to gather information to filter through.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 7:19 AM
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    It's unfortunate that what he chooses to believe is virtually always inaccurate, misleading or just plain false.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:36 AM

    Common: Everything in Wheels' Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:30 PM comments are true....sometime the truth hurts the Dependent Democrats also known as Snowflakes.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • I am seeing folks posting info about the recent debated Senate tax Bill. A lot of the claims are centered on how they are taking away from folks, or hurting folks of one social standing or another.

    Lets be honest . The government taking our money is as close to thievery that is legal as anything can be. The elected idiots spend money on any whim they chose, especially if it gives them some political points, or a contribution from some organization.

    I read over a good portion of the Senate bill. It is lengthy. And hard to understand. I don't see how this is any more fair than the current Tax rules.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-HA585D896042C...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 8:30 AM
  • "What in that post was inaccurate... "

    Lots, just surprised you didn't notice...

    As for the DNC and elections, they are supposed to "manipulate elections" as that's how republicans are defeated.

    As for the FBI investing, it has nothing to do with democrats, it was the Trump administration that the FBI is still investigating.

    As for "super delegates," they have nothing to do with the electoral college.

    As for the "woman's march," liberals have no doubts on the two normal "genders." Some do have strange views on the subject, just like some conservatives believe the earth is about 5000 years old.

    The rest are pretty much just as inaccurate. If I find time, I'll explain the others.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 10:55 AM
  • *

    Now even the NY Times and a liberal writer admits that the Clinton's sordid behavior well documented during their immoral period in Arkansas and in DC. As this guy says, when you review the past you realize Bill Clinton was a lying, sexual predator with a clear history of his behavior all the way up to the White House. And that democrats - like Lettau - who defend them were wrong.

    SOME democrats have logic and reason and values. Unlike Lettau who still sings "party, party, party" with every post. No value, no morals.

    A good, short read revealing what most Americas of integrity knew. And what democrats defended...

    "What if Ken Starr Was Right?"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opinion/sunday/what-if-ken-starr-was-right.ht...

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 11:30 AM
  • There is actually now 2 economies in the USA instead of just 1 . The taxes must be changed to affect each economy accordingly . There will be another down turn , it's not if , but when .

    Taxes are theft of the People by Government and Politicians . Some of the most historical thieves now reside in Congress and the White House .

    **********************

    GOP Tax Bill Is The End Of All Economic Sanity In Washington

    ............

    There's no economic justification whatsoever for a tax cut at this time. U.S. GDP is growing, unemployment is close to 4 percent (below what is commonly considered "full employment"), corporate profits are at record levels and stock markets are soaring. It makes no sense to add any federal government-induced stimulus to all this private sector-caused economic activity, let alone a tax cut as big as this one.

    This is actually the ideal time for Washington to be doing the opposite.  But by damning the economic torpedoes and moving full-speed ahead, House and Senate Republicans and the Trump White House are setting up the U.S. for the modern-day analog of the inflation-producing guns-and-butter economic policy of the Vietnam era. The GOP tax bill will increase the federal deficit by $2 trillion or more over the next decade (the official estimates of $1.5 trillion hide the real amount with a witches brew of gimmicks and outright lies) that, unless all the rules have changed, is virtually certain to result in inflation and much higher interest rates than would otherwise occur.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2017/11/19/gop-tax-bill-is-the-end-of...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 4:05 PM
  • The average everyday 40 hour per week worker who's pumping their gas at Rhodes or shopping at Wal-Mart or Dollar General will come out with around $1,238 more dollars a year . That's until the year 2021 when the "tax breaks" end unless it's Corporate which are permanent .

    Thieves , nothing but thieves stealing hard working People's income in the guise of "saving tax money" .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 4:17 PM
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    Rick, the 4% unemployment number is as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. They quit counting people as unemployed after they quit looking for work. I would suggest a good number of those whoo quit looking are sitting on their behinds drawing welfare, food stamps, rent assistance are probably pulling down a better wage than they are qualified for if they worked.

    Maybe Trump is planning on paring down the number on welfare in the future, once jobs go begging for applicants. Either apply, and get a job because the welfare ceases, might be the wave of the future. I would love to see it happen.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:30 PM
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    As for the DNC and elections, they are supposed to "manipulate elections" as that's how republicans are defeated.

    As for the FBI investing, it has nothing to do with democrats, it was the Trump administration that the FBI is still investigating.

    As for "super delegates," they have nothing to do with the electoral college.

    As for the "woman's march," liberals have no doubts on the two normal "genders." Some do have strange views on the subject, just like some conservatives believe the earth is about 5000 years old.

    The rest are pretty much just as inaccurate. If I find time, I'll explain the others.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 10:55 AM

    Dang Ulrich, I didn't know it was legal for Democrats to manipulate elections. How come Independents and Republicans are not legally allowed to do so? Bet Old Bernie didn't know it either!

    And what was the FBI investing in?

    Super Delegates.... is that one of the Democrats ways of manipulating elections?

    Democrats have no doubts on the "NORMAL" two genders. Oooops, Ulrich are you saying Queers aren't normal and shouldn't be using the girl's rest roooms and marrying their own sex? I agree and have no doubt about that either, but I hesitate to say that the Leftist Democrats believe that.

    I believe God made you what you are. Leave it be.

    But somebody sure needed to tell Obama and your Leftist Democrats that, they don't seem to understand it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 PM
  • Wheels

    Why not just cut my taxes by 15% permanently instead of me depending on a Corporate to take care of me . I don't need , or want , a temporary minimal tax break .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 7:45 PM
  • I am not a Serf .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 7:48 PM
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    Failed again Lettau: "German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a crowd Sunday in southern Germany that Europe can no longer rely on foreign partners. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM

    Commie's beloved European Socialist leaders are less popular than Trump. No surprise - Commie Lettau has gotten it wrong for over a decade now.

    "Europe's Merkel, Macron, May less popular than Trump"

    "President Trump’s approval ratings, often mocked by Democrats and the media, top those of Europe’s biggest three leaders, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Britain’s Theresa May and French President Emmanuel Macron."

    Is there some Venezuelan or Somalian dictator you'd like to quote against Trump? You're a joke.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 8:16 PM
  • I'm not a big fan of government using taxing authority to promote social behavior but tax policies that steer citizens into the pride of owning property, I think, could be reason to expand the size of that IRS post card.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 8:22 PM
  • Before I sign off tonight I want to thank Mr Lettau for his service to our country in the military. Bollinger county rumor has it he is very modest in acknowledging he was considered as a retired general and adviser to President Obama.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 9:08 PM
  • The new tax cut makes Corporate look leftist using Government subsidies .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 9:52 PM
  • "...acknowledging he was considered as a retired general and adviser to President Obama."

    Mr. Bess,

    I have to admit, I'm more than a bit curious as to what would bring you to make up and post such an obvious and blatant lie?

    Why would I "acknowledge" anything of the sort?

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 6:55 AM
  • "...saying [homosexuals] aren't normal and shouldn't be using the girl's rest roooms and marrying their own sex?"

    Yes, that's what I believe the majority of democrats/liberals would say.

    There will be some that don't believe this way, just as there are some conservatives that believe the earth is 5000 years old and there are some republicans that believe Secretary Clinton committed some sort of crime regarding Benghazi.

    Homosexuals (or queers if you prefer to demonstrate your personal ignorance and bias) aren't normal anymore than dwarfism or albinism is normal.

    Homosexuals should use the bathroom corresponding to their sex, and ones that successfully present the appearance of an opposite sex, should use the bathroom corresponding to the one that they pass as.

    Personally I feel the concept of being transsexual is misguided and surreal. I also think the concept of, or need for, same sex marriage could have adequately been satisfied by civil unions. I've always considered it to be akin to little kids "playing house" and arguing "you be the mommy and I'll be the daddy. No I'll be the daddy and you be the mommy."

    Whether other liberals agree or disagree is irrelevant, I made up my own mind about this, as I do with everything else.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 7:29 AM
  • I have to admit, I'm more than a bit curious as to what would bring you to make up and post such an obvious and blatant lie?

    It is to add a bit of humor and demonstrate the absurdity of the things you make up and then refer to as fact.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:44 AM
  • The new tax cut makes Corporate look leftist using Government subsidies .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 9:52 PM

    How does less tax equal subsidizing?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:46 AM
  • "...of the things you make up and then refer to as fact."

    Such as what? Humor me some more, and give me 4 or 5 examples of what you think is "made up."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:50 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 7:29 AM

    Common: Those using public restrooms should use the ones that fits the plumbing that God gave them with and if they are dissatisfied of the plumbing, that is not an excuse to have the plumbing altered. Also, not an excuse to be using the wrong public restroom.

    Common: Marriage to me is between two of the opposite sex in mankind and in the animal kingdom as set in motion by the Creator. Anything else is a front and not to be recognized.

    Common: Homosexuals has always been a rarity but when Hollywood made them celebrities the homosexual movement became the in thing to do....the closet was not big enough to hold all of these queer wannabes. Sorry if this insults the wannabes but that's tough.

    And that's the way it should be....Monday November 20, 2017.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:59 AM
  • Such as what? Humor me some more, and give me 4 or 5 examples of what you think is "made up."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:50 AM

    .........................................................

    No need to, you will post several examples on your own as you always do and someone will point them out.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:12 AM
  • So you have none. That's not surprising.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:18 AM
  • If a person is a dead beat , giving Corporations more money is not going to stop that person from being a dead beat . Giving a dead beat more money is not going to stop them from being a dead beat . A dead beat is a dead beat .

    The idea of giving somebody more money with a guarantee they'll take care of me with that money isn't going to work , I'll take care of myself , I have my whole life .

    Obama handed out money and benefits like Halloween Candy and now Trump wants to hand out money and benefits like Halloween Candy . The entire time it's been spend , spend , spend . Who's money is been getting handed out like Halloween Candy and kept on being spent ?

    How did the USA ever survive before there were Federal Income Taxes , when People got to keep whatever they had without paying the Government for it ?

    ............

    "When half the People get the idea they can get something for nothing and the other half get the idea they are getting nothing for something , it's the beginning of the end of a Society ."

    ~~ Adrian Rodgers

    .............

    "Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable ."

    ~~ Mark Twain

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:40 PM
  • How does less tax equal subsidizing?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:46 AM

    Less tax on Corporation is more tax on non-Corporation to make up the difference .

    Corporation get a "cut" , permanent .

    Non-Corporation get a "break" , temporary .

    When the "break" is over , the non-Corporation has to pull the weight for the "cut" Corporation no longer has to pay . A Corporate Government subside . Progressives , billionaire Progressives .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:51 PM
  • The only way anybody anywhere is going to save anything is to STOP spending money like there's no tomorrow .

    And get rid of the Federal Reserve , it's the biggest Ponzi Scheme going , pay money for money . No matter how this great new tax deal comes out the Federal Reserve -- Central Bank -- will manipulate Interest Rates to fit the club agenda , the USA was bought and sold out long ago , and we sure aren't club members .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 1:03 PM
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    I see where they left Charlie Manson out of prison yesterday.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM
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    No need to, you will post several examples on your own as you always do and someone will point them out.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:12 AM

    So you have none. That's not surprising.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:18 AM

    Common: Pointing out the above....#1

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:05 PM
  • Appears that Mr. Bess still has no answers, and seems that you don't either, no matter what the number 1 is.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM
  • I just find it too ironic Trump takes over the Federal Reserve -- Central Bank -- at the same time as he wants a complete new Tax Program or structure . This would be the biggest turn over of power over USA money by mandate from a sitting President since 1936 . If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck , well ....

    *****************

    Yellen to resign from Fed board, reinforcing Trump's mandate to revamp one of the world's most powerful institutions

    Federal Reserve Board Chair Janet Yellen will be stepping down from the central bank's powerful board of governors after President Donald Trump refused to reappoint her to a second term as the central bank's first female leader.

    Yellen is the first Fed chair in recent memory not to be reappointed by the president despite a solid four-year term. Trump announced earlier this month that he was replacing her with Fed governor and former Carlyle Group executive Jerome Powell.

    Trump now has four remaining seats on the central bank's seven-member board to appoint. The policy-setting Federal Open Market Committee may be on track for its biggest year of turnover since 1936.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/fed-janet-yellen-to-step-down-after-not-being-rea...

    **********

    Note : And a "Corporate Tax cut to 20% may lead to a growing economy" ...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:05 PM
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    Appears that Mr. Bess still has no answers, and seems that you don't either, no matter what the number 1 is. -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM

    You / it's not worth the time. Wouldn't matter. You believe every mistake and lie you've ever posted.

    Posting them again - as I and others have done - wouldn't make a difference. You'll just double down on your mistakes.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:27 PM
  • I spent over 20 years at Rubbermaid in the Management and Executive , I believe I've got a good idea of how the game is played . I've also paid out wads of my own income to fund growing Entitlements over the years too .

    Handing out money to People , whether it be on the low end like Obama did , or the high end like Trump wants to do , without holding those People responsible or no reprisals is never a good idea or works . Especially when it's the People in the Middle's income who are being held responsible and do make reprisals from where that hand out money is coming .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:33 PM
  • -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:44 PM
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    Common: What do you think about poor ole Cigar Bill? He might have to do some time if convicted. Wonder if Hillary did anything to any of the women in her employment. Doesn't make any difference Bill and Hillary are going down for the Email and Clinton Foundation schemes. Orange suits for both of them.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:52 PM
  • David, I think the bigger story is that the taxpayers have been funding the out of court settlements paid to silence those that tried to stand up and identify the swamp monsters being perverts.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:54 PM
  • Anyone remember this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCwQnIygcw

    It was back when common started his sarcasm about skeered people that wound up being a story of Dhows full of terrorist coming up the Whitewater to cause Wheels to hide under his bed.

    The terrorist had all but been eliminated and what was left was a JV team. [Praise Obama!}

    Enough people fell for that campaign BS with the help of liberal media to get him elected again. Never mind whatever happened to that woman screaming about how she and her kind were now in line for all the free stuff they wanted.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:19 PM
  • Just waiting for the Breaking News when Obama played grab *** while he was in college smoking sweet leaf , it's only a matter of time , it's the only way this wave of new Breaking News will become "Fake" and stop . Michelle will raise 5 kinds of hell , "Not my man !!"

    Seems like every man in America has played grab *** at one time now -- women don't do these types of things -- just men . Funny how a woman can suddenly remember every little iota or detail from 20 years ago and talking about it know in front of the Mass Media makes them all better . Once one remembers , suddenly a line forms who remembers too .

    My guess is a whole lot of those women would pull up a divot after they sit on the grass when the stood up . That old saying "a women sits on her opportunities" must be true after all ..

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:35 PM
  • Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 2:28 PM

    My guess would be that he is headed to a warmer climate.

    -- Posted by Donna Runnels on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • "For this country is moving and it must not stop. It cannot stop. For this is a time for courage and a time for challenge. Neither conformity nor complacency will do. Neither the fanatics nor the faint-hearted are needed. And our duty as a party is not to one party alone, but to the Nation, and, indeed , to all mankind."

    ~~ John F. Kennedy

    Austin, Texas

    November 22, 1963 [Undelivered Speech ]

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 7:45 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 8:09 AM
  • “Appears that Mr. Bess still has no answers, and seems that you don't either, no matter what the number 1 is.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM

    Still no answers. This attempt flopped completely.

    “Anyone remember this?”

    All this was is political campaign rhetoric, no different than republican posturing.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…his sarcasm about skeered people that wound up being a story of Dhows full of terrorists….”

    Right, what it was is sarcasm, which is intentionally made up. If it “terrified conservatives,” that would seem to be their problem. I apologize for making them "skeered."

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “The terrorist had all but been eliminated...”

    I don’t believe anyone said exactly that. You will need a link to an actual quote.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “…and what was left was a JV team.”

    What I recall is that the President was comparing ISIS to Al-Qaida, on the basis of how much violent damage they each had done to our country, so he was right.

    My statement with reference to a “JV team” was that the ISIS military force was JV when compared to “varsity” militaries such as the Turkish and Israeli armies, NATO forces or the US military. This was confirmed when the Iraqi army and the Peshmerga rolled over ISIS.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    “Never mind whatever happened to that woman screaming about how she and her kind were now in line for all the free stuff they wanted.”

    That remains your invention. I don’t know if that’s true or not since there’s no reference. In any case, as I’ve mentioned before, it’s not only republican/conservatives that own crazies, there are a few liberal ones too.

    ----- ---- --- -- -

    "...of the things you make up and then refer to as fact."

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:44 AM

    Such as what? Humor me some more, and give me 4 or 5 examples of what you think is "made up."

    I’m still patiently waiting…

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 8:50 AM
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    What I recall is that the President was comparing ISIS to Al-Qaida, on the basis of how much violent damage they each had done to our country, so he was right.-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 8:50 AM

    You believe every mistake and lie you've ever posted. Posting them again - as I and others have done - wouldn't make a difference. You'll just double down on your mistakes. -- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:27 PM

    You proved me right again. Just doubling down on your lies and mistakes. ISIS a JV team? Only a socialist / marxist in Bollinger County would believe that. You.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:05 AM
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    -- Posted by Donna Runnels on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 7:22 AM

    I think that would be a safe assumption.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:08 AM
  • No need to, you will post several examples on your own as you always do and someone will point them out.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:12 AM

    And now you have.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:18 AM
  • *

    All this was is political campaign rhetoric, no different than republican posturing.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 8:50 AM

    Ulrich,

    I would call it lying.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:19 AM
  • -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:21 AM
  • *

    “"Never mind whatever happened to that woman screaming about how she and her kind were now in line for all the free stuff they wanted.”

    That remains your invention. I don’t know if that’s true or not since there’s no reference. In any case, as I’ve mentioned before, it’s not only republican/conservatives that own crazies, there are a few liberal ones too."

    Believe in now Ulrich??

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:26 AM
  • My statement with reference to a “JV team” was that the ISIS military force was JV when compared to “varsity” militaries such as the Turkish and Israeli armies, NATO forces or the US military. This was confirmed when the Iraqi army and the Peshmerga rolled over ISIS.

    ..........

    Whoa , I call foul .

    It has been your contention that the Obama Administration killed off 1,000's and 1,000's of ISIS fighters -- 50,000 or 60,000 -- not anyone else . Now you claim it is the "Iraqi army and the Peshmerga rolled over ISIS" .

    Make up my mind -- some how you forgot Kobe Bryant mixed in with the "JV Team" too ....

    Obama ain't all that plus a free bag of chips too

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:29 AM
  • "Believe it now..."

    Congratulations, you found the crazies.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:45 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:45 AM

    Keep digging that hole... I've never seen a person with such little credibility in one place. It's fascinating.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:56 AM
  • *

    Congratulations, you found the crazies.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:45 AM

    Wasn't tough at all, the Leftist Democrat's have them coming out of the woodwork. Typical Obama voter.

    Thought you were safe didn't you? You had to know that was true, it was all over the airwaves about 5 years sgo.

    Only took one Google inquiry to bring it up on my phone.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:26 AM
  • -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:45 AM

    .............

    "I've always been crazy but it's helped me from going insane."

    ~~ Waylon Jennings

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:59 AM
  • USA Government rules and regulations haven't stopped World Wide white or black hat hackers yet ....dumb *** Obama thought his would..

    ...............

    Exclusive: U.S. agency to vote to repeal 'net neutrality' rules - FCC chief

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday unveiled plans to repeal a landmark 2015 order that barred internet service providers from blocking or slowing down consumer access to web content, and said the regulator will prevent states and cities from adopting similar protections.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-agency-t...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 11:58 AM
  • Obama's rules stopped the Russians !!!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 11:59 AM
  • *

    Obama's rules stopped the Russians !!!

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 11:59 AM

    Rick: After the Feds investigate the Uranium One/Russian Deal....President Obama's legacy will only be that he was the first black USA President.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:16 PM
  • *

    BTW, that investigation will also put orange jump suits on both Cigar Bill and lying Hillary.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:18 PM
  • *

    "President Obama's legacy will only be that he was the first black USA President."

    Half black Semo471... half black.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:22 PM
  • Half black Semo471... half black.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:22 PM

    Yeah , and he get's to chose which half whenever it's to his benefit too .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:46 PM
  • *

    Rick,

    Have you every wondering why Hillary Clinton hasn't claimed sexu a l harassment?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:50 PM
  • *

    Yeah , and he get's to chose which half whenever it's to his benefit too . -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:46 PM

    Sounds like a racist post to me.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 6:08 PM
  • "Have you every wondering why Hillary Clinton hasn't claimed sexual harassment?"

    Why not she lies about everything else. The most recent former first weighed in sounding disappointed.

    Maybe the the "Me Too" movement will end up draining the swamp a bit.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:57 PM
  • Sounds like a racist post to me.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 6:08 PM

    You're gonna make me cry !

    Only you would know racism , it's what you preach . It's what you spread . Obama's a hypocrite , if you don't know the difference , then you don't know the difference .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:43 PM
  • Doug

    I'm Red -- a minority -- I've dealt with racist my hole life . You're open and honest racist , not to hard to see , you ain't posted or said anything I haven't heard or dealt with before son .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:45 PM
  • Rick,

    Have you every wondering why Hillary Clinton hasn't claimed sexual harassment?

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:50 PM

    Has to be that Kim Jong-in out fit she wears ....

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 7:22 AM
  • *

    I've dealt with racist my hole life . You're open and honest racist , not to hard to see , you ain't posted or said anything I haven't heard or dealt with before son . -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:45 PM

    It's always about you isn't it Ricky? "me, me, poor me". Not everything on here is for your attention or needs your advice on who can post what. It's a free speech forum little kitty.

    Grow up.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:21 AM
  • Mew...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 AM

    Offered to meet in person? Mew. Big man on a posting forum.

    You can dish it out, just can't take it. Grow up. Not everything is about Ricky. I know you need the daily attention but I'm not gonna give you anymore kitty.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 10:06 AM
  • *

    Rick & Dug: Two good guys who don't need to aggravate each other, save it for the Liberal Dependent Democrats.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM

    Couldn't agree more. Not sure why he starts things but I mostly ignore him for this very reason.

    You are right.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 10:31 AM
  • So. will Trump allowing declassification of what was learned about the JFK assassination tell us anything?

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:27 PM
  • *

    I would say it is doubtful.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 9:19 PM
  • *

    Texas State Trooper killed by this black man at a routine stop.

    Another example of a cop killed by a black man. Will the NFL allow players to wear a patch for this trooper who was killed? Of course not. They only allow protest for criminals killed by police.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 23, 2017, at 9:38 PM
  • Doug, We know the killer was black but not sure he was worthy of 'man'description.

    cape PD just came up with another PC idea of dealing with low life criminals outlined in a story today. I escorted wife to a couple Black Friday sales tonight and police were at all the major stores. I told her I'm wondering who's watching the other end of town.

    It is not displaying racism to be suspicious of even good people that make it a point to look and act like bad people regardless of race.

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 12:06 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 12:06 AM

    Couldn't agree more.

    And I don't believe it's racism to point out facts that counter this fake protest and show that the bigger problem isn't the killing of innocent blacks by police, but the killing of police by blacks. Much bigger. And I only point this out because Kaepernick is not concerned about innocents getting killed by police, just blacks.

    Apparently a couple of posters believe it is and it's of little concern to me. The truth hurts.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 8:21 AM
  • "Typical Obama voter."

    Typical absurd conservative conclusion, courtesy of Mr. Vangennip...

    Of the 66 million voters that chose President Obama, only about 8 million or 12% were black, and very few had any resemblance to the delusional Mr. VanGennip's unlikely model.

    If anything, the typical "Obama voter" was more apt to physically resemble a "typical SO conservative."

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 8:55 AM
  • *

    If anything, the typical "Obama voter" was more apt to physically resemble a "typical SO conservative." -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 8:55 AM

    I'd post the 2012 election demographics to show you are wrong. But it wouldn't matter - facts don't appeal to you.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:15 AM
  • Interesting observations from the Ms. Ross column...

    “We do not conduct criminal trials in the court of public opinion in this country, we conduct them in a courtroom with established ground rules for both the prosecutor and the defense.”

    RIGHT!

    “You don't hang someone if there is reasonable doubt.”

    RIGHT!

    “I think our system is based on "innocent until proven guilty.”

    RIGHT!

    So since Bill and Hillary have not been accused by competent authority, not been indicted, not gone to a trial, (and Bill was neither convicted nor punished by Congress) they should be considered exonerated and guilt free, unless and until charged and convicted.

    Stand by for hypocrisy…

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:21 AM
  • *

    "(and Bill was neither convicted nor punished by Congress)"

    Ulrich, Ulrich,

    Bill was impeached by the House. The Democratic Senate did not follow through with confirmation to remove him from office. Maybe you have forgotten (conveniently). I was there listening daily to the whole sordid mess. He was impeached son, get over it. But he was not removed from Office.

    For lying under oath he was punished by having his law license revoked. You may not call that punishment, but I do.

    Hypocracy, I don't think so. I am speaking of what happened. I will not comment on future other than to say a full investigation should be carried out and guilt or innocence proclaimed. Same thing for any other claims out there.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:49 AM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:21 AM

    PS: Ulrich,

    Thank you for agreeing with me three times in a row.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:51 AM
  • So they're innocent since neither has been proven guilty.

    Thanks.

    -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:53 AM
  • *

    Legally they are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Do I think they are guilty, yes same way I think lot of these Republican politicians are guilty as accused. However that does not count for anything legally.

    Now if you are coming around to the back door on Judge Roy Moore, I am not sure what I think. I think it is suspicious as hell and has political dirty work written all over it. And he may be guilty as hell. Too much doesn't add up for a hanging, although a lynch mob is swinging a rope.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 10:27 AM
  • *

    So since Bill and Hillary have not been accused by competent authority... -- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 9:21 AM

    From Snopes - again, not that facts have ever been anything you're interested in.

    1) "On his last day in office in 2001, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his Arkansas law license in order to head off any criminal charges for lying under oath about his relationship with Lewinsky."

    2) "Shortly after Clinton’s license was suspended in Arkansas, the U.S. Supreme Court suspended Clinton from presenting cases in front of the highest court and gave him 40 days to contest his disbarment (which Clinton did not do). Instead, he resigned from the Supreme Court bar"

    3) "Mr. Clinton paid the fine ($25,000) with a personal check on March 21, said Marie-Bernarde Miller, the lawyer who handled a disbarment lawsuit brought by a committee of the Arkansas Supreme Court. “The case is completed,” Ms. Miller said."

    4) "In April 1999, U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright found Clinton in contempt of court for giving false testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment trial and fined him over $90,000"

    5) "In 1994, Paula Jones filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton. Thar case dragged on for four years (while Clinton was serving as President) before it was finally settled in November 1998 with a check for $850,000"

    6) As Wheels aptly pointed out the US House IMPEACHED your buddy Bill. Are you that dense?

    ===

    Let us know when Judge Moore has been convicted and fined as your beloved Bill-the-rapist Clinton.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 11:45 AM
  • *

    Facts are such stubborn things.... they just won't go away.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 24, 2017, at 1:55 PM
  • Russia's Putin signs 'foreign agents' media law

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Saturday new measures allowing authorities to list foreign media outlets as “foreign agents” in response to what Moscow says is unacceptable U.S. pressure on Russian media.

    Russia’s move against U.S. media is part of the fallout from allegations that Russia interfered in last year’s U.S. presidential election in favor of Donald Trump.

    U.S. intelligence officials have accused the Kremlin of using Russian media organizations it finances to influence U.S. voters, and Washington has since required Russian state broadcaster RT to register a U.S.-based affiliate company as a “foreign agent”.

    The Kremlin has repeatedly denied meddling in the election and said the restrictions on Russian broadcasters in the United States are an attack on free speech.

    The Russian Justice Ministry last week published a list of nine U.S.-backed news outlets that it said could be affected by the changes.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-media-restrictions/russias-putin-s...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 4:54 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:27 PM
  • *

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:27 PM

    Why would you post a photo of your family reunion? Put the bong down. LOL!

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:35 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:43 PM
  • -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:50 PM
  • *

    Which kitty is you and which is your family member? Did you celebrate Thanksgiving?

    You're pure entertainment. It's all about you isn't it. Gotta control the forums. And you've failed again.

    Maybe back to Rubbermaid for you? Where you were a genius? LOL.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 5:51 PM
  • -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 6:01 PM
  • Even the local radio news was reran; maybe by Monday we will have something interesting to post about besides cats when the people 'paid' to look foolish go back to work. :)

    -- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 25, 2017, at 10:11 PM
  • US Warns Of "Repercussions" For Pakistan Over Freed Terrorist Hafiz Saeed

    WASHINGTON: 

    The White House said on Saturday there would be repercussions for US-Pakistan relations unless Islamabad took action to detain and charge a freed terrorist Hafiz Saeed accused of masterminding a 2008 assault in Mumbai.

    "(Hafiz) Saeed's release, after Pakistan's failure to prosecute or charge him, sends a deeply troubling message about Pakistan's commitment to (combating) international terrorism and belies Pakistani claims that it will not provide sanctuary for terrorists on its soil," the White House said in a statement.

    On Friday, US said that Hafiz Saeed must be arrested by Pakistan and charged for his crimes. For years, the US has offered $10 million as an award for information that could lead to his arrest. He has moved around freely in Pakistan as the head of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa or JuD which presents itself as a charitable organisation but is seen as a front for terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-warns-of-repercussions-for-pakistan-over-free...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 8:08 AM
  • *

    Back from Thanksgiving trip for a family get together - great times. However, here on S.O. nothing to be thankful for.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 8:16 AM
  • *

    However, here on S.O. nothing to be thankful for. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 8:16 AM

    Have hope. There are just a few "banners" on here that try and control others posting by threatening them personally.

    Only two I can think of. Other than that, it's entertaining.

    -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 12:47 PM
  • *

    Our two resident Liberal Dependent Democrats must have been in the St. Louis Mall protest (of what I don't know) and have been arrested....don't worry Mic2 and Common, I'll bail you out in a couple of days.

    -- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 2:54 PM
  • Report: FBI failed to tell US officials they were targets of Russian hackers

    "“The FBI routinely notifies individuals and organizations of potential threat information,” the FBI said in a statement to the AP.

    The FBI reportedly did not inform U.S. government officials that a Russian hacking operation was attempting to breach their personal emails.

    According to an investigation by The Associated Press, the bureau possessed evidence for a year that showed the officials were targets of a Kremlin-linked hacking entity known as Fancy Bear.

    The AP said that in the course of its almost 80 interviews, it identified only two instances in which the bureau informed the officials.

    The AP said the Fancy Bear operation was connected to DCLeaks, one of the websites that published emails of Democratic Party officials during the 2016 election."

    http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/361834-report-fbi-failed-to-tell-us-offi...

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Nov 26, 2017, at 5:41 PM
  • Wheels

    I'm sorry to have ruined your thread .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 27, 2017, at 8:05 PM
  • *

    Wheels

    I'm sorry to have ruined your thread .

    -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 27, 2017, at 8:05 PM

    Nah Rick, probably about run it's course. Don't blame yourself for that.

    We need to all do our best to try to and keep our eye on the ball and our shoulder to the wheel to see to it that common sense prevails in this country instead of the particular brand of craziness a few are promoting. I think the long term health of America depends on it.

    -- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 27, 2017, at 10:57 PM

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