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The Irony Of It All
Brad Hollerbach

The Actual Cost of Charter's $7-A-Month Cable Boxes

Posted Wednesday, April 23, 2014, at 6:00 AM

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  • I also have At&t mid-grade DSL. The option that I have found very pleasing: purchase a $100 digital TV antenna, connecting to existing wired coaxial (thus no rabbit ears required), purchase Roku boxes for all TVs and stream Netflix for $7.99 a month.

    However, it has been announced Netflix will be raising their prices $1-2 dollars a month for new customers soon. Existing customers monthly fee will also be raised after a 'generous' grace period.

    I had DirectTV for years, but found myself watching DVDs or local channels far too often because nothing good was on 120+ channels at $60+ a month.

    -- Posted by Otoe on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 7:47 AM
  • Cable monopoly? It's not 1980. The VAST majority of places have multiple cable companies that they can utilize, not including satellite. Just because Cape and the Se Mo area is behind, does not mean the cable companies are monopolies.

    You have the Dish DVR, but are focusing on the Charter cable box? Why not just get a Charter DVR? Dish's Hopper is better than Charter's Motorola DVR though as the Hopper is a really good product. U-Verse TV, unavailable in this region at this time, has the best DVR on the market imo (a different Motorola model than the one Charter offers). The On Demand service from Charter is very good, and not offered by Dish or U-Verse, so Charter has that going for it. Dish and Charter are by far the best two options in this area, DirectTV is going the way of the dinosaur and the VCR it seems. They need to do something to make them more relevant.

    If you're not happy with AT&T internet, and I don't know anyone that is, get Charter's, their internet service and speed options are very good. You don't have to get phone or tv with it, just get the internet only, but would get a better price on their internet if you 'bundle'.

    My ideal scenario would be for U-Verse TV with their DVR, Charter internet, and then whatever company out there gives me the best deal for landline phone service.

    -- Posted by gomer on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 10:14 AM
  • Gomer, In the interest of full disclosure, how long have you worked for Charter?

    I have AT&T (internet) DSL for 13 years and very happy with it. I do not look forward to the time when I will 'have' to trade in my CISCO modem for newer technology.

    You do realize U-Verse is an AT&T (internet) product, right?

    If you read Brad's entire blog entry, you know he has recently changed from years of Charter to Dish. His motivation was the cost each new digital boxes that are now required on every TV.

    -- Posted by Otoe on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 12:49 PM
  • Cable companies are definitely considered a natural monopolies. Below you will find the top 10 cable companies subscribers, as of 2012. The numbers certainly support a 'natural monopoly' stance.

    1. Comcast 21,690,000

    2. Time Warner Cable 11,197,000

    3. AT&T U-verse 5,266,000

    4. Verizon FiOS 5,170,000

    5. Cox Communications 4,540,280

    6. Charter Communications 4,158,000

    7. Cablevision 3,197,000

    8. Bright House Networks 2,013,145

    9. Suddenlink Communications 1,211,200

    10. Mediacom 1,000,000

    -- Posted by Otoe on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 12:52 PM
  • Gomer,

    In Wikipedia the entry on cable companies cites the following from a 2010 law journal:

    "Many cable systems operate as de facto monopolies in the United States. While exclusive franchises are currently prohibited by federal law, and relatively few franchises were ever expressly exclusive, frequently only one cable company offers cable service in a given community."

    Sure AT&T U-Verse can be an option in some places, but it is only available in about 22 states and reaches approximately 30 million households or a little less than 25% in the country.

    That number may be a bit fuzzy though since U-Verse is actually available here in Cape -- just not the TV portion. I can get the internet portion at my house, I just haven't. I'm sure the problem for AT&T is the "last mile." Video signals don't run very well over legacy Cat-3 cabling that is so prevalent. Unfortunately, the cost of running fiber is still pretty expensive and tends to be cost effective in either densely populated or affluent markets.

    DISH does have on-demand, but so far I haven't really had a desire to use any of those services, and I think they're kind of expensive. If I want to see a new movie release I know of at least 3 Redbox rentals within a mile of my house and will go there and save $5. Besides, after I got the DVR and had my 3 months of free premium channels, I now have more than enough interesting programming stored up to last me a year or more (DVR is half full!).

    Before I switched to DISH, I calculated the cost for staying with Charter (and getting their DVR) over the course of a two-year period. If I wanted to maintain the same number of TVs that we have -- but not have all of them on the DVR -- Charter was going to cost me about $1000 more than DISH over those two years.

    I have considered switching to Charter Internet, but a neighbor has it and is actually switching to DSL because of speed issues. What a lot of people don't realize about Internet service from either cable or DSL is that they are shared bandwidth. The more households that are connected in a given neighborhood to a particular service can slow down everyone's service.

    Thanks for reading.

    -- Posted by Brad_Hollerbach on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 1:52 PM
  • Don't work for Charter, never have. Frankly don't know anyone that works there either. Just because someone says that a company has a particular good product doesn't mean you work for them, sheesh. I have their services though. Like their On Demand services, LOVE their internet services, phone service is pretty meh. I have a good price on phone service with them, that's the only reason I have it through them right now though. Just a guy that has expanded cable tv packages, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Roku, WatchESPN, etc. I'm just kind of a TV junkie really (yes, sad, I know).

    Epictus - yes I know all about AT&T U-verse being an internet product. Are you not familiar with the fact that AT&T U-Verse has a cable TV service also? Their cable tv service is very good, their internet is very meh, at least from what I've experienced and heard from many others.

    I would switch to AT&T U-Verse TV in a heartbeat though if it was available here (and not the DirectTV partnership they offer, the actual U-Verse TV).

    Brad - Charter's On Demand service I was referencing is the free portion, the ability to watch a TV show from last week that you didn't record on the DVR but can still watch for free. The little gomers in the house use it all the time, watching their shows that came on last week. etc. Being able to watch the shows from last week and further back attracts me to the On Demand service, not the movie purchases. I watched all of Game of Thrones season 2 after the entire season was already over on HBO, but you could still watch On Demand. Haven't watched any of the current season yet (please, no spoilers lol) but plan on doing so in time with On Demand.

    As far as internet speeds, sometimes you have to make sure you have a router capable of delivering the speeds you signed up for. Doesn't hurt to double check that before anyone signs up for these mega speed offers that are coming along lately.

    -- Posted by gomer on Thu, Apr 24, 2014, at 4:35 PM
  • Turn the **** thing off and get a life.

    -- Posted by math on Sat, Apr 26, 2014, at 7:47 AM
  • Charter's motto: "We work hard every day to find new ways to charge you more money."

    -- Posted by ParkerDaws on Thu, May 1, 2014, at 9:35 AM
  • Unfortunately that motto is so true........

    And here is an eye opener for ya. As a poster above stated Charter has over four million subscribers.

    4,000,000 x $7.99= $31,960,000!!! How much they will make in one year if those people only had one TV with a box. We know lots of them will have more than one box. So......... Monopoly I Don't Know But, GREEDY YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :0 And I wonder how much if any of that money will go to the low rungs of the ladder. The ones who actually do the work!!!! But just my thoughts...... :S

    -- Posted by CommonCentsGal on Tue, May 6, 2014, at 1:44 PM
  • I was in Cape when my mother's TV went dark on April 15. That experience set it motion something that is going to have unintended consequences for cable companies in two states.

    I figured that I could go with an off-air antenna to pick up all the local stations where we live in FL. That means I can shed at least $60 a month in cable fees. We have two Tivo boxes, that's another 21 bucks a month for service.

    We already get streaming video through Amazon Prime, but I may add Netflix or Hulu with the savings from dropping Comcast and Tivo.

    If that works out well in FL, I'll put an antenna on Mother's house for all the local stations she watches and cut the cable cord. I bought her a Roku box for an early Mother's Day gift to watch old movies, so there should be plenty of stuff to occupy her.

    I'd be interested in hearing how well thumbing your nose at the cable companies has been working out in the SE MO area.

    -- Posted by ksteinhoff on Mon, May 12, 2014, at 10:46 PM
  • I think the price of watching tv has gotten way to high. The time has come to just botcott all of the cable companies. We pay these high prices for what? Entertainment? Its getting ridiculous. I pay more for cable than I do for heating. Then they dont even tell you about the box prices until you get the bill. You try to call and complain and they dont care what you have to say or how long you been a customer. They just want your money. How much is enough? How long do you think we would have to go without cable before they lower their prices? A week? A month? I can bet it won't be longer than that. That is if we ALL have them come get their equipment. It will only work if we all stick together. I am willing to give it up in order to make them realize that WE are the customer and we are tired of being held hostage.

    -- Posted by stlsross on Mon, Nov 17, 2014, at 6:06 AM