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Speak Out 8/26/08Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Casino not good I want to comment on the "big casino" some in Cape are wanting to put in downtown Cape. I live on Main Street and this is the last thing that I want by my home. I do not want to raise my child by a casino. It won't bring in more money, but it will bring in more drunk drivers and thieves. There are families that have lived here for years that probably have the same opinion on this sore subject. You want to put in something that will attract tourists and visitors, then put in something for the kids. Another Kubrick needed With the return of the Cold War, we need Hollywood to make an updated version of "Dr. Strangelove," particularly since so many pols in many countries (including our own) seem so determined to take us not only to but over the brink of nuclear annihilation. Bombs away! McCain's houses Senator McCain is unsure of how many houses he owns. Big deal. If he has that many, maybe he could give at least one or two to the homeless. Autocracy survives Just a decade or so ago I believed that autocracy and free markets were incompatible. I believed the latter would destroy the former, and autocracy would give way to free market capitalism. China and Russia alone have led me to one firm conclusion: Boy, was I wrong. Caught in the cookie jar WE HAVE a certain county commissioner who spends a lot of time charging other people with corrupt behavior. That's funny considering the source, but I guess that's what he feels he needs to do to win an election. It's political mudslinging 101: When you have few positives about yourself and in fact got your hand caught in the cookie jar (with secret tape recordings), attack everyone else. Dog Days of August After watching McCain and Obama at the Saddleback forum, it appears we have two choices for president. One is an old dog set in his ways and the other is a young pup learning new things. Take your pick. Deteriorating pool Has anyone else noticed the rapid deterioration of Central's pool? The bath house is filthy, the floors are nasty and the lifeguards congregate in social circles discussing hangovers and parties instead of monitoring the safety of pool patrons. What is going on? Who is guide for? I am a student at Southeast Missouri State University. Earlier today, I picked up the latest issue of our school newspaper, "The Arrow," and was disappointed with what I came across. There was an article entitled "A Beginner's Guide to Cape" in which the author listed the convenient spots for groceries, movie rentals, coffee shops, etc. It was easy to tell that this article was geared toward all of the new incoming students, in which most are freshman directly out of high school. Sounds innocent enough, right? I thought so too until I stumbled across the author's advice that Schnucks is close to campus and consistently has the best deals on liquor. As if promoting underage drinking was not enough (on a dry campus, nonetheless), the author continues to also advise that SEMO Video is the place to go for those students wishing to rent more adult choices. So, it's obviously not only a beginner's guide to Cape, but also a beginner's guide to purchasing alcohol and porn. Now, I am not a fool and I totally realize that such shenanigans are typically part of the college experience, but should our school newspaper be encouraging such behavior? Problems start here At first I was deeply troubled by the failing schools in Jackson and Cape. But then I remembered that any organization fails or succeeds from the top down. Let's look at our county. Nathan Cooper is now in federal prison. Jason Crowell and Rod Jetton are playing pass the hat with each other's money. Scott Lipke's own law firm does lobbying work in Jeff City. One county official looks at porn in the office. The old boy network in the County Commission engages in questionable acts and then use their power to cover for one another. And don't even get me started on Morley Swingle. Actually, it makes perfect sense that the rest of the county has problems. Ambulance petition I find it very interesting that there is a petition going around for an ambulance district in Cape County. It's about time! It's time for Cape County to receive Emergency Medical Services that it deserves. Politics and religion Bad news for David Limbaugh. A majority of Americans (including those who are Republicans and call themselves conservatives) want politics and religion kept apart. Housing fun The way I see it, if Rush Limbaugh can poke fun at Obama's brother living in a shack in Africa and saying if Obama is elected that's the kind of housing we'll all have, it's perfectly OK for Obama to chide McCain for having no clue as to how many houses he and Cindy McCain own. The economic issues Well, here we go again. We call for tighter immigration policies and closing the border to aliens (legal and undocumented) who are "stealing" our jobs. And yet employers cannot find red-blooded Americans willing to take those jobs at minimum wage. We decry the loss of manufacturing jobs to those horrible communist countries like China, and yet red-blooded Americans are not willing to pay the higher price for the locally-produced merchandise made by our friends and neighbors. We complain loudly about those scoundrels in Washington who pander to big oil companies and special-interest groups, and yet we re-elect them over and over. We ignorantly believe that homosexuality and the gay agenda is an attack on Christian marriage, and yet red-blooded, heterosexual Americans continue to have adulterous affairs and file for divorce as if it was no big deal. We rant and rave how we need prayer in school, and yet very few of these people even pray at home, let alone attend church. We complain how there is no good candidate running for president, and yet very few of these people voted in past elections. Pogo was right. We have met the enemy and it is us. Parent link problems I would just like to say how disappointed I am with the Jackson school system. I can't understand why the parent link system is not up and running now that school has started. They had all summer to make updates and it should be ready to go. There is no excuse for this. I would also like to say that the article about the new lunch schedule at the high school forgot to mention that in order to have time for four lunch shifts some of the students have to go to lunch at 10:30. That's not lunch, it's brunch. Comments The nature of the Internet makes it impractical for our staff to review every comment. If you feel that a comment is offensive, use the exclamation point icon beside the comment to send a report to the webmaster.
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Ditto the comments about the spineless traitorous Democrats RG. They are for the most part as evil as the Bushes. They love to spy on us as much as the neo-cons.
Oh my goodness Robert G. If I started writing about the Bush crime family illegal, immoral, and deadly adventures I would still be writing solid this time next week. I know most people on here won't believe what I say anyway, but they could look up some of the published players in the Bush bin Laden gang and draw some of their own conclusions..
These people are so incredibly corrupt and evil that it is hard for good decent law abiding people like most of the posters on here to understand what you and I say RG. That is why the Bushes get away with what they want to do. ALL of the major news media (corporate fascists) are either part of the scams, bought off, or blackmailed to not expose them. When people do try to expose the crimes, they are passed off as kooks and conspiracy nuts and sometimes "suicided." The only place to get a grasp of the truth is the alternative media. Congress as we just saw with the Pelosi farce is intimidated by them too. Congress with few exceptions are just as corrupt as the Bushes.
I couldn’t care less what people think about me and what I say. I understand why people don’t want to believe what you and I talk about RG but some day they will be forced to believe it. They will finally run out of excuses why they defend these monsters when the true horror of what has been going on hits closer to their homes. I don’t hold any animosity for those who ridicule us or hate us. I have nothing but pity on them because it is going to be such an earth shaking shock to their souls when their denial expires and reality is finally realized.
Look up some of these names people. Gary Webb, Jim Bath, BCCI, Harken Energy, William Cooper, Cele Castillo was a DEA officer who worked with the CIA, Oliver North and had close encounters with Daddy Bush. He wrote an eye opening book called Powder Burns. Listen to these You Tube interviews with Cele. http://www.youtube.com/...
By the way Cele has not been "suicided", but he has been arrested on trumped up gun charges. No wonder people are afraid to speak out. At least he wasn't murdered.... Yet
Robert Goodbody -
Thanks for the reply. Good stuff, good info, and nice to read some honest, mostly rational comments. I'm sure we'll "talk" more over time.
Doc -
You are not someone who can be debated with tonight - not because of your wit or knowledge, but because you possess an uncanny ability to ignore facts and instead make boastful, ignorant rants. Again, lay off the junga, get some sleep, and we'll try to have some rational dialogue tomorrow.
My name and avatar will change tomorrow now that I've cracked the code and was finally able to start posting (I've been fighting the man for a few days - mostly due to a slow connection)... I'll post my old and new name just so you don't think I'm hiding.
SIMPLETON....DEMOCRATS GIFTS TO BUSH
I do apologize if you have directed a question to me and I did not respond.
This will be short, for I tire and must get back to Lewis Black on the Comedy Channel...57 on cable, because he is getting to the best part of the routine.
The Democrats have given George Bush everything that he wanted and more in the recent Wire Tap Bill that includes amnesty for the scum telephone companies who wiretapped Americans without FISA authorization to do so. Remind me, and I will go into this more another day.
The Demcorats have given George Bush another $160 million, or, more for the continued occupation and slaughter of Iraqi's and Afghanis, two peoples who never harmed Americas. That money will be borrowed from our very good friends, the Communist Chinese, who already own us. Now, they will own your grandchildren.
The Democrats have chosen to spread the lies about "green jobs be a comin', you-uns just wait and see." If you think that corporations will suddenly hire Americans to build solar panels and wind mill genertors in the US at $10-$20 dollars an hour, you are a rube, a simpleton, a moron. These corporations who have off-shored our jobs with wild abandon under this president, will move the "green jobs" to the sweat shop Communist countries of Communist China and Communist Vietnam.
The Democrats, at least some of them, incuding Obama and Biden are huge believers in globalism, the off-shoring of jobs.
The Democrats spread the lie of "energy independence" and "getting free of foreign oil." That is just election talk, just as the Republicans role out the ole ABORTION issue and the new bone, HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.
Neither party means what they say.
All the above being true, when it is all said in done, if I MUST vote for one of the two, I will have to vote for Senator Obama.
Locally, I will side with the local Democrats. Great people. I enjoy being around them. They are a lot more hospitable, down to earth, and real, than their local Republican counterparts in southeast Missouri. They are what I used to think that Republicans were. From top to bottom, from the national level to the local level, the Republican Party has changed. It wasn't for the good. I beleive it to be totally cloaked in darkness.
If you haven't gone to a local Democrat meet-up, or, meeting, especially, where food is served, you are missing out on a major blessing in life and fellowship.
SIMPLETON! LOL! You'll never understand that you just can't win. Never. When you come up with something more...debatable, hit me up. I'll be waiting. Change your name to Tom Foolery, it just may suit you better.
Doc -
You're all over the map. Put down the pipe, go get some Taco Bell, and call it a night.
Dennis Kucinich
One of the best speeches tonight from Denver, was the one given by Dennis Kucinich.
He was really on fire, very annimated, and right on target. He ended with several verbal vollies of 'WAKE UP AMERICA, WAKE UP AMERICA.'
Rather rip snorting speech in my view.
and the polling data is irrelevant when it is consistently wrong. Like you calling me a Liberal...Wrong wrong wrong. Always wrong. Your forum persona exemplifies you. Simpleton...through and through.
Robert Goodbody -
I still look forward to your reply concerning your thoughts on the Democrat's domestic spying bill. Maybe another day...
I don't blame you...that would be a waste of time.
Doc -
I started to go to bed, but I thought you'd come back with some assonine reply and you did not disappoint. Keep ignoring the facts and instead just blurt out random googlimook; you make a good Liberal.
I took the time to explain how polling data is comprised in an effort to have some basic, semi-educated debate and you took the time to type some senseless banter.
Nice. Keep up the good work.
suelynn
No, I'm still here. I meant I was not going to waste my time talking of President Bush's record anymore and anytime.
"No, I'm not going to comment on Dubya's record any longer"
Of course you're not, you're afraid to show the close association between Bush and his puppet hugging boy, John "Flip-Flops" McCain.
Then why in the world did YOU bring up Gore and Kerry's service...you don't have to answer, I already know. LOL
Ain't Guine to Study War No Mo'.
The only more non-existant service record other than that of GW Bush's, is the one of Dick Cheney. By comparisons, while all four are neocons, and CFR members, Kerry, and Gore are "Heroes of the Homeland."
MOTHERLAND........COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION
FATHERLAND........NAZI-FASCIST GERMANY
HOMELAND..........AnAMERICAN complex THIRD WAY combination of the two above.
The times, they are a changin'
Simpleton,
As I said, polls/schmolls. You used it, now you're just upset because 5 other polls. (Including Republican based FOX NEWS) has Obama winning. Gallup, is a mere demigod in modern polling. How many times where these POLLS useless in the Primary? Using a poll for a source of "who is winning" is a lot like the Ameren Speculators raising winter power rates on the word of Farmer's Almanac.
Like the Almanac, polls numbers are enjoyable to read when they tell you want you want to hear. Good Luck with your polls. ;o) I'm sure Gallup will change their mind weekly from now til election time.
And babe's gone again, but she'll be back when she thinks we've all closed down for the night. Probably looking for something to cut and paste from freeper or wiki. That's what she does when she gets caught in her own web. Night babe.
suelynn
No, I'm not going to comment on Dubya's record any longer because soon he will be lifting off in that helicopter home after the transfer of power has taken place.
I suggest you inform yourself about the candidates for the next POTUS.
On LOCAL news at 5pm today
Cunningham did an interview bit with one of their advertisers Southeast Univerity on the topic of online education.
Now, in my opinion, that was a fluff piece, a pay off to one of their advertisers, that if it should ever seen the light of day, it should have aired either as a "Business Brake", or, in the Breakfast Show, a more magazine type program.
It simply wasn't news, not worth the several minutes that it took to do the interview.
Again, just my opinion.
Doc must be making a house call ...
It's been fun. Night ya'll! And we'll talk to you tomorrow.
Babe we all know about the lies put out by Bush's Republicans about Kerry's record...that has been addressed since the last election. I'm surprised you'd brag about the Republicans attacking a vet like that...I guess it just takes all kind.
More Good News from Ameren.
About the only local story on the 5pm LOCAL news was a short blurb from Ameren that we should expect natural gas prices to increase at least 30% this winter.
It seemed to me, that our LOCAL news team was merely doing their report, based upon a press release from Ameren.
What about GW Bush's service record...want to brag about that one?
McCains long imprisonment as a POW is a FACT not a ploy. Gore and Kerry essentially falsified their versions of military service but McCain does not.
Doc -
And this where your habitual copying and pasting without understanding the subject matter will get you in trouble. The poll I referenced is one of two which you listed conducted by a dedicated polling consortium. These polling consortiums utilize demographic data to conduct their polling which should, in theory, give a more accurate depiction of the polling demographic in relation to the Country.
Let me explain .. Polls conducted by say the SEMissourian are going ot be weighted towards the readership demographic (you know, Republican, conservative, middle class). While this polling data is accurate in its own form, it's not representative of the much larger and politically/socially diverse demographic.
If you're not an independent polling consortium, then not even FoxNews can control who responds to their polls. If they could, the President would have a 90% approval rating.
Gallup is an independent polling consortium, and they should (again, in theory) have polling data that most closely resembles the mood of the country.
And I'm not a "smart guy", I just like facts and rational thought ... you shoudl try it some time.
Babe
I think it was admirable for the Clintons to keep their marriage together...some take an easier road and divorce. I also like the fact that they still love each other after all they've been through (and you don't know different). They have seemed to have raised a healthy, happy, successful daughter. Why must you put Hillary down for doing what you say conservatives do...taking responsibility for what she's done and having dealt with the consequences for her actions. You ma'am sound bitter and jealous.
"Bill and Hill have been estranged for years and no longer even share a home. They both have romantic involvements with others. They only rally together in an arena of politics because it plays with naive citizens. I am fully convinced, also, that neither can divorce the other because both know where the bones are buried. giggle"
Where are your sources on this, and who cares? McCain is still going down. It wouldn't matter if Bill Clinton was married as many times as Elizabeth Taylor, Democrats still love Bill. Besides, it's irrelevant to Obama, and McCain will still lose.
babe,
you appear to have intimate knowledge on the relationship of Bill and Hillary that i am not privy to. is uspect that came from some fine internet sight which you can sight. i do not know the nature of their relationship other than they are married. for better or worse is what my vows said.
"My analysis of Hillary's speech is that it was well written and well delivered. But it still had "it's all about me" theme. She essentially said that if you can't vote for me then Obama is all we have left."
Then you're also living in a dream world. *giggle*
mr. goodby,
as a politician it does not surprise me that McCain would try to continue to use the POW status to enhance his image. that is merely being a politician. i do not get the sense that it holds as much weight today. however any candidate with war experience tries to exploit it. Jack Kennedy played up his PT boat experience as well. I do not fault McCain for such.
SWBG
Bill and Hill have been estranged for years and no longer even share a home. They both have romantic involvements with others. They only rally together in an arena of politics because it plays with naive citizens. I am fully convinced, also, that neither can divorce the other because both know where the bones are buried. giggle
Simpleton, if you're going to believe the polls, then then here is a tall of ALL the current polls.
RCP Average 08/18 - 08/25 -- 45.7 44.0 Obama +1.7
Gallup Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 2684 RV 44 46 McCain +2
Rasmussen Tracking 08/23 - 08/25 3000 LV 46 46 Tie
CNN 08/23 - 08/24 909 RV 47 47 Tie
Hotline/FD 08/18 - 08/24 1022 RV 44 40 Obama +4
USA Today/Gallup 08/21 - 08/23 765 LV 48 45 Obama +3
ABC News/Wash Post 08/19 - 08/22 LV 49 45 Obama +4
FOX News 08/19 - 08/20 900 RV 42 39 Obama +3
Yes, that's right OVER ALL....Obama is STILL WINNING!!!! LOL What a...simpleton! LOL
Why look...even FOX FAUX News has Obama winning! LOL
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/...
What do you have to say now smart guy??
RG - You want to know how Obama voted? Me too! Obama voted "present" 130 times in his short tenure. Politically convenient it would seem ... no one can question your judgement when you haven't stood for anything.
John McCain's record stands for itself. You may not agree with him, but at least he has the character to stand for what he believes in.
And John McCain isn't using the POW card nearly as much as the BO campaign is dealing out the race card.
Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Aug. 23-25, the first three-day period falling entirely after Obama's Saturday morning vice presidential announcement, shows 46% of national registered voters backing John McCain and 44% supporting Obama...
Of course, this poll means nothing. I'm sure Americans will wake up tomorrow, go buy an orange pant suit, slap a rainbow/gay pride bumper sticker on their car, and work all day just so they can give more of their paycheck to the government to fund socialized healthcare.
Good night and good gosh...
shortwhitebaldguy
You wrote "it saddens me that so called enlightened individuals stoop to such tactics and do not engage in educated debate."
I agree. Perhaps some become flustered when rational, educated debate is presented to them and resort to such tactics that you mentioned. Some who post here are case studies of this.
As for McCain, there is no doubt that he was there in RVN, and was a prisoner of war. While mocking him, or, belittling the POW experience I find distasteful, I feel that reasoned discussion and debate as to some of the particulars surrounding that period is justifiable. First, Senator McCain takes every opportunity to promote his POW status. That was roughly 30-40 years ago. Is his status as a POW central to the debate today? I want to know who McCain is today, not what he was like 30-40 years ago. Often people change. Sometimes for he better, sometimes not. His positions, his votes, his actions today, are what are important to me as a voter.
His account of his imprisonment often differs from those who were with him, and even that of his original captors when he was shot down. I would just like to let it pass and concentrate on the current state of the nation, and his view on the issues.
I don't disrespect him for his service, but since millions of Americans were in Vietnam, and thousands of them were held as Vietnamese prisoners of war, most of both groups are reluctant to speak of thier time in country, I would just like to move on to McCain's more current qualifications to lead this nation.
Same for Senator Obama. I find it admirable that, after college, he did community organizing work in Chicago, worked among the poor, but, again, that was some time ago. What does Obama believe, how has he voted, and how would he lead this country?
That is what is most important to me.
My analysis of Hillary's speech is that it was well written and well delivered. But it still had "it's all about me" theme. She essentially said that if you can't vote for me then Obama is all we have left.
And she still has not formally released her delegates.
mr. goodby,
not offended just trying to make light of it all. i could stand to lose a few pounds however. sometimes things do not translate as well in print.
babe,
i do not understand why you would be offended by Bill's mouthing "I love you" to his wife. all marriages have problems. most not so public. John McCain left his first wife but i guess that is OK. how many times has rush been married? Reagan was divorced. is that OK with you?
Hey Doc - The polls say otherwise, but I'm sure YOU have some secret government report that says otherwise, but keep on clicking your ruby red heels together and maybe, just maybe...
Simpleton. You're living in a dream world. Wake up buddy, before you fall off that cliff. McCain's a joke and a puppet. Don't believe me?? LOL
Obama is undefeatable, the Republicans know this. Sooo...if they are going to be defeated, who shall they use as the sacrificial lamb? The Maverick of course, Mr. Party line crosser himself. The Republican party can't wait to see the McCain/Lieberman ticket torched. That way they'll be done with the both of them. Pretty logical if you look at it. If you're going to lose anyway, waste a pawn. LOL
Hey Doc - "Polls schmolls" ... is that liberalnese for "I'm avoiding facts and therefore I can't here you" or you just a 7 year old?
The Doctor's role has always been played by a man. LOL SWBG, SWFBG, Shortfatandwhitebaldguy, it's hard to keep up. Sorry. Thanks for disagreeing with puke for brains poor choice of avatars
Amen Suelynn...me too!
Doc - Good luck with that whole tar and tickling feather thing that you and your buddy are in to. Seems a little strange, but maybe it helps sooth the pain of impending loss and helps ease the mind from the aches that must come from avoiding truth and rational thought.
Hillary rocked tonight. She looked great and she sounded great as well. And I say all this as a true conservative. I take full resposibility for what I'm saying and the consequences that follow.
doc,
i think you have me confused with someone else. in no way was i defending the avatar of liberal pukes. suggest you reread. my avatar is uncle fester. is yours an old woman or an old man?
Babe,
How do you know he doesn't love her?? I guess you have a secret report from a federal investigator?? LOL...All these mind readers! LOL
Polls schmolls, I'll be sure to post the polls next week during the RNC. LOL!
RG - Looking at your avatar, I have to ask ... What do you think about the domestic spying bill passsed by Democrats a few months ago?
I am laughing so hard. Old Bill was sitting there mouthing "I love you, I love you, I love you" to Hillary. Yeah, right.
Simpleton, you have it all wrong. Just political persecution is ok! It's officially payback time for the republicons. ;o)
I'm boiling the tar now, and Robert Goodbody is preparing the feathers.
shortwhitebaldguy
I do apologize. I was trying to remember the acronym that you used to use, and thought that it included an "F". It is a mistake, and I apologize for it.
All the best,
RG
Doc - What has McCain lost? He's leading in the polls during BO's convention.
Billary made a speech that incited the hormones of liberals. OK? Now what? We'll all wake up tomorrow and BO still won't have any experience (other than a community organizer), he'll have a VP who said he didn't have enough experience, and you'll still be waiting for that historical convention bump.
fatshortwhitebaldguy, you also have my apology and sympathy.
Puke for Brains, ...You have been reported!
Simpleton, there is no need to explain further...if you watched it, you very well know, it's over. McCain has already lost, and lost BIG.
Ah, religous persecution is off limits, but political, social, and cultural prosecution is good to go. OK, I've the rules now. Thanks, Doc.
shortwhitebaldguy,
You avatar is offensive and inciting. As usual, it appears the Republibs in the room are having trouble keeping their composure. Your avatar is in poor taste and brilliantly shows you're displeasure with what will be a "FOR SURE" defeat for McCain in November. Grow up shortfatwhitebaldguy. Religious persecution is not welcome in this forum.
The_Doctor: What did Hillary do that was so fantastic other than promote gay rights, socialized medicine, and state that she was proud to be a mother, an American, a Democrat and I think she even said she was proud to a gardener ... but not a proud wife? Not proud of Bill. Why would that be?
She did look great in her pant suit - I'll give her that much!
Well, I know this won't please the pesky conservative flies in the room, but it appears as though Hillary has hammered the first nail in the McCain Coffin, and shoveled the dirt over 8-years Republican dictatorship. Yes, the DEMOCRATS are back my friends, the tide shall indeed roll over the Capitalist scum which has kept this county at bay since 2000. No Way, No More, NO MCAIN! LOL!!
Here comes the swarm of rantics. *SWAT* SWAT* SWAT* LOL!! I'm soooooo happy!!!
Red Volkswagons and pictures of President Bush in a cowboy hat offend me and I find them insensitive.
mr. goodby
take the F out of my acronym for i am not FAT. However thanks for the link as with my eyesight i could not make out that was the face of Obama on the avatar.
unfortunately Obama, like Kennedy, Reagan, and Clinton, has something that frightens people and that is charisma. regardless of the message if he were as dull as John Kerry i do not think those who disagree would feel so threatened by him. thus you get the bigotry and name calling.
i have seen similar attacks on John McCain but not to the same extent. with McCain it has been about his gaffes, his divorce, and his internment as a POW (btw which i find offensive).
it saddens me that so called enlightened individuals stoop to such tactics and do not engage in educated debate. now i may not agree with your world view (frankly i usually scroll past the long ones) i do not find them in such distaste.
i would hope that liberal pukes becomes enlightened by this and takes future posts/avatars into consideration. if not that should be the choice of the poster and i shall merely scroll past.
mr. goodby
take the F out of my acronym for i am not FAT. However thanks for the link as with my eyesight i could not make out that was the face of Obama on the avatar.
unfortunately Obama, like Kennedy, Reagan, and Clinton, has something that frightens people and that is charisma. regardless of the message if he were as dull as John Kerry i do not think those who disagree would feel so threatened by him. thus you get the bigotry and name calling.
i have seen similar attacks on John McCain but not to the same extent. with McCain it has been about his gaffes, his divorce, and his internment as a POW (btw which i find offensive).
it saddens me that so called enlightened individuals stoop to such tactics and do not engage in educated debate. now i may not agree with your world view (frankly i usually scroll past the long ones) i do not find them in such distaste.
i would hope that liberal pukes becomes enlightened by this and takes future posts/avatars into consideration. if not that should be the choice of the poster and i shall merely scroll past.
If Liberal Pukes Anti-Catholic avatar offends you.
If his anti-Catholic, mocking portrayal of Saint Francis of Assisi offends you, simply click on the circled exclamation point (!) which follows his posts.
Not only is his avatar clearly racist, but it is mockery of Catholics.
Debate is one thing, but to mock a religion, or, to promote racist bigotry in his avatar, clearly seems to me to be against the published standards of the Southeast Missourian.
If anything gets this forum closed, it will be Liberal Pukes anti-Catholic, racist avatar.
With apologies to St. Francis of Assisi
After reading SFWBG's post, who shares my concern about the anti-Catholic avatar chosen by Liberal Pukes, I re-read my own.
I apologize to all, and esepcially to St. Francis of Assisi, and to St. Anthony of Padua, for incorrectly substituting the name of another favorite Saint of mine, St. Anothny of Padua. http://members.chello.nl/...
The .jpg of St. Francis of Assisi, which these anti-Catholic fundalmentalists chose to mock Catholics and Senator Obama, can be found here. http://www.recoverytimes.com/...
Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.
Blah Blah
Same old trash!!
As you were.
Why Liberal_Pukes ANTI-CATHOLIC avatar offends me.
Liberal_Pukes has chosen a very anti-Catholic avatar to show not only his bigotry toward and hatred for Catholics, but his racist proclivities toward Senator Obama.
His avatar is entitled SAINT OBAMA OF ASSISI. It was designed to mock Catholics as it takes a prayer card which asks for the intercession of St. Anthony of Assisi and it has the substituted head of Senator Obama for that of St. Anthony.
I do not know where this poster obatined the anti-Catholic avatar, but it is avaialble on the anti-Catholic, fundementalist Zionist site. http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/...
It, did appear earlier this month on another site. http://joshmickelson.wordpress.com/...
Josh Mickelson is another confused fundalementalist from the Denver-Boulder area in Colorado. Whether Mickelson is clearly anti-Catholic, or, not, is not easily determined. He could be using the St. Obama of Assisi photo on his website out of his hatred for Obama, because, as you all know, Obama is secretly a "Muslim." On the other hand, Mickelson could be using the St. Obama of Assisi photo, made up to look like a Catholic prayer card because he is anti-Catholic. Perhaps, as with many of these types, it is due to both reasons.
It was just uploaded there today.
The site is connected to Danny Carlton, a fundelmentalist Zionist wacko from the Dallas-Fort Worth area, who is clearly anti-Catholic.
I relish the spirit of debate. I don't believe that either Bear, or, Poppa said anything on this forum that should cause their banning. Perhaps, their exchange did drift into a grey area, but it was never threatening.
However, the use of a very clearly anti_Catholic avatar goes beyond debate. It is bigotry toward the Holy Catholic Church, and it is very racist. Libedal Pukes avatar should be unacceptable by Southeast Missourian standards.
ShHHHH
Hillary is talking!!
liberal pukes,
while i generally have little use for political correctness i find your choice of avatars inconsistent with your message. i believe the image to be St. Francis of Assisi.
here is an article in case you are ignorant of who he is.
http://www.newadvent.org/...
i am not sure if you mean to demean Catholics, St. Francis, liberals, or people who are inconsistent in their beliefs and practices. you need not change nor apologize. just some feedback as we all need some from time to time.
Great Web Site:
http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/
Good night my friends, always remember and never forget that laughter IS the best medicine.
If you can't laugh at my jokes just scroll back and laugh at yourself!!
Robert Goodbody, I think the SEMO Home for Special Needs Children is hiring, and with our active imagination, you should do well with pallet building. God, please help this Liberal Puke who so happens to be a complete idiot. Amen.
Robert Goodbody, you're buddy Bill Clinton had all the opportunities in the world to get rid of his good buddy Obama...I mean Osama.
You Liberal Puke.
McCain versus Obama Jokes
If John McCain is elected President of the United States then the French will immediately surrender to us. If Barack Obama is elected President then the French will immediately invade us.
Here an interesting fact: If you add John McCain's age and Barack Obama's age together you'll get the number of times Obama usually says "uh" when answering a question.
The age disparity between the two candidates in the upcoming election is significant. John McCain is 71 years old. By contrast, Barack Obama is 322 years old in dog years.
Q. Why did John McCain cross the road?
A. There was an Old Town Buffet on the other side.
Q, Why did Barack Obama cross the road?
A. To help the other side.
After Barack Obama claimed to have campaigned in 57 states, John McCain should have sent him the name of a good Alzheimer’s specialist.
John McCain rolled up his sleeves and went offshore in the Gulf of Mexico looking for oil for American drivers. Barack Obama responded by going to the shores of Hawaii, taking off his shirt and oiling up his torso for American soccer moms.
Barack Obama's camp claims that John McCain was cheating in their first forum appearance because he actually gave straight answers to the questions. Politicians aren't supposed to do that.
Any candidate that John McCain picks to be his vice president will necessarily be a younger candidate than he is. Any candidate Barack Obama picks to be his vice president will necessarily be better candidate than he is.
It's a hard election for conservatives this year. They'll have to hold their noses tight in order to cast a vote for John McCain. But they'll have to hold on even tighter to their wallets if Obama gets elected.
The sad fact is that if John McCain is elected President he might not last another four more years. A sadder fact is that if Barack Obama is elected President then America might not last another four more years.
Wow the_eye, Funny how you feel persecuted by others who don't agree with you, and then you turn around and persecute them for the very thing you say you despise.
I just love the Liberal Puke Democrats' double standards. **Giggle**
For those so inclined...here is the link to Vote for America's Got Talent. Polls are only open till 11pm. (I truly enjoyed the talented Neil E. Boyd from Sikeston.)
Hint: You can vote 10 times...goes a little quicker if you copy your email address.
http://www.nbc.com/...
Biden Obama Jokes
Q, Why should Obama choose Joe Biden as his VP?
A. Obama needs to win Delaware to avoid getting skunked.
Q. What ever happened to Joe Biden's old wig?
A. It was chased away by a dog.
Q. Why did Joe Biden get a hair transplant?
A. To hide the mark of the beast.
Q. What's the difference between Obama bin Biden and Osama bin Laden?
A. With Obama bin Biden you get two for the price of one.
Silent_Bob,
You are probably right, so I am out.
Osama bin Laden, good friend of the Bushes.
My, my, how little one knows, yet chooses to speak.
Osama bin Laden was, and perhaps still is, a CIA asset.
Osama wasn't killed after the Cole incident, because Osama is a CIA assest, and has been since at least the early days of the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.
Clinton and Osama? Surely you jest.
Osama bin Laden, and his entire extended family in Saudi Arabia, were and still are very close, some say kissing close, to George Bush and the entire Bush crime family. Daddy Bush, Geroge Herbert Walker Bush, vacations in Saudi Arabia with the bin Ladens, and he stays with them when he visits the region.
Daddy Bush, Geroge Herbert Walker Bush, was and still is business partners with the bin Ladens through their Carlyle Group business interests. I believe that Infowarrior can tell you the extent of their cozy business relationship. Perhaps Infowarrior can detail from whence came the funding for some of the failed oil business ventures and ties of the Bush-bin Laden clan before W was Governor of Texas.
The Bush CIA closed it's Usama bin Laden unit/desk in July of 2006. How come? Why for be that? Hmmmmmm?
Gee, Usama isn't even named for the Nine-Eleven attacks on the FBI website. They have him down for the Kenya embassy attack, and the attack on the USS Cole, but not for the Twin Towers, or, the Pentagon attacks. How come be that? Why for? Splain it to me, pleez.
Then, there is the matter of the Bush government allowing aircraft flying Saudi nationals, including close relatives of Usama bin Laden out of this country, just days after the Nine-Eleven attacks, when all other American commerical aircraft were grounded, forbidden to fly. How come that? Me no savvy.
Clinton was not allowed to kill, nor, harm Usama bin Laden, because Usama bin Laden was a valuable tool, an asset to those who are emersed in intrigue in the CIA, NSA, and those who are in and outside of this government.
Now, in closing, there is this little tidbit that some with open minds will find very interesting. Usama bin Laden was in Dubai....you remember Dubai....don't you? Dubai is the nation that has close ties to the Carlyle Group, and the Bush crime family. Dubai is the nation that the FBI claims that most of the alleged Nine-Eleven hijackers traveled through to reach the US. Dubai is the country that the FBI claims that many of the alleged hijackers received wired funds. Least I forget. Dubai is the nation that attempted to buy the operations contract of at least 23 American seaports, including at least two who are shipping military supplies to the occupation troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Dubai, through it's government owned corporation, Dubai Ports World, was going to operate our ports. Your president Bush was the major backer of the plan. He was angry when the word got out, people became alarmed and the opposition to his plan for Dubai Ports World seeminly fell through due to public protest.
Oh,.... I digressed. Dubai was where CIA agents met with Usama bin Laden in his hospital room, in July, 2001, TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE ATTACKS BY ON Nine-Eleven.
Gee, if Bush's CIA was a talking cozy like with Usama in his hospital room, why didn't the BUSH CIA follow up and kill Usama at their their earliest opportunity, in hospital, or, when he left? Hmmmmm. Me no know why. Pleez splain it. From the respected British newspaper, the Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/...
"Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro.
The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere."
Oh, I didn't catch the name of the hospital in Dubai, where Usama bin Laden was being treated in July, 2001, TWO MONTHS BEFORE Nine-Eleven, what was it now?????
Oh, yeah... the "AMERICAN HOSPITAL."
Wow, Usama bin Laden was a patient in the AMERICAN HOSPITAL in DUBAI...when the CIA talked to him in his hosptial room there.
Yet, Usama lives?
Come on Guy's
I usually enjoy the banter that goes on here. Tonight's Tug-o-War hardly compares to a good game of PONG (Boring)!!
Lets Go,Jab-Jab Hook Jab Uppercut!!
SemoAngel,
I wasn't asking to upset you. I was asking because their are areas of the 'registration requirements' that are not fair to the offender (teenagers because they have sex with another teenager). But in the case you are talking about, yes they need to be stricter.
Thank you btw.
Hilleco,
Good grief, you said I was responsible, who am I to question you? Like Simpleton I did not like the expenditures and have issues with some of his policies, but would vote for him again given the choice I had at the time.
Semoangel,
Like I said the other night, due to thew "Ex Post Facto" (After the Fact) portion of the Missouri Constitution, no one can be required to register if their crime was committed after the inception of the Sex Offender Registry in 1995. Attempts have been made to introduce legislation to modify the constitution, but without success. As you know changing the constitution requires a vote by the people even if the legislation is passed. One of the problems with modification will be to have the Ex Post Facto portion remain in effect with the exception of sex offenders. If this is not done, individuals will have no guarantee that sentences will not increase for other crimes as at one time the DOC promulgated a rule giving drug offenders an additional five years of parole during which time they were subject to serving their original time. The reason the Ex Post Facto clause kicks in on sex offenders is because there is a criminal penalty attached for failure to comply.
Hope I have not confused you more, but when I was working we would get new policy on this almost every month.
If any of you republicans actually believe that John McCain is the choice for America, you are more insane than I ever imagined....
Stop using the fear excuse and trying to scare people into thinking that with a Democrat in office, we will get attacked AGAIN...
Yeah, we're so much safer with a Republican...
So safe in fact, that when Bush should have been paying attention to his terror alert memos, he was too busy on vacation for a month.
We were attacked with him in office. And now the number of people who hate us has grown IMMENSELY.
So the answer is John McCain? Remember Hurricane Katrina? He probably doesn't... He was too busy having a big birthday party... His buddy George Bush flew in for it... I guess they got lost trying to get down to New Orleans...
Wake up. Open your eyes. Stop believing the people who say they listen to god. If they are really following God's plan, We wouldn't have lost more Americans in Iraq than we did on Sept.11...
Our president is to blame for that. He has killed more Americans than Osama Bin Laden. Think about that...
He has lied, cheated, and stolen his way thru this presidency. Hell, he didn't even win the election in 2000, but he still slid his way in...
It's amazing what you can do when your cousin is the head of Fox News, and your brother is the governor of the state with voting troubles....
Listen to your heart, read as much as you can. (and that doesn't mean the david limbaugh crap that they print in here)
Can you really trust our entire nation to a man who spent years inside a little cage in Vietnam? It's just a longshot, but I am guessing he lost just a tad bit of sanity there....
John McCain is no different that drugs... JUST SAY NO
And what... you don't agree with abortion or gay marriage or legalizing marijuana?
Have you ever had an abortion, had a gay friend, or smoked pot?
Are these the issues that matter???
I tell you what. You get every Republican in this country to adopt an unwanted child, and abortion wouldn't be necessary, and the argument would be over...
Don't think gay marriage is right???
Get over it. It's between them and God... Remember that book you guys like so much? It says to NOT judge your fellow man. Why are christians the most judgmental people on earth. Church gossip anyone?
Leave these people alone. It's bad enough to you have live every day of your life knowing that people HATE your guts just because you are you, but you can't find someone who loves you, settle down, be a family, maybe adopt some children, pay taxes, contribute to america, and yet when your spouse dies when you are 75 years old, their retirement doesn't go to you, you can't pay for the funeral, you lose your home, and die alone, broke and heartbroken?
Yeah, that's the American way... Screw you if you're not like me...
It's unchristian and evil.
If it is a sin, God will deal with it. It's not your damn job... Mind your own business and leave your fellow man alone.
And don't even get me started on weed...
I like the fact that I can live in a country where I can go to the store, buy a bottle of EVERCLEAR, which if I drank till it was gone, would probably kill me. Or allow me to get in my car and kill someone else. Yet I am not allowed to grow something in my backyard that i can smoke to relax in the evening...
Legalize it, tax it, regulate it, and leave it alone...
Vodka doesn't ease the pain of glaucoma? Marijuana does, along with helping cancer patients, aids patients, and on and on......
This is a very important year... Vote for the person who is running so he can make America a better place for all, not the guy who is running so he can president.
Red
You are right it is all very confusing. Now here is the deal........the man in Chaffee pleaded guilty to it in 1981 but becacuse of the laws he did not have to register as a sex offender which in return left us as parents clueless to his past and accepted him as a great guy concerned about kids etc, then our world is rocked by the new charges. It was also statuatory rape then against a family memeber as well, even with todays law it still would be.
Me'Lange
Thanks for the link
Pups
First glad to see you back and second Damn straight I want them tougher. these people are sick and it seems they have more rights than the victims.
Enjoy Lewis Black's "RED, WHITE & S.C.R.E.W.ED" tonight.
The incredibly funny comedian, Lewis Black, will give some of you who seek entertainment a great hour of comedy tonight on the Comedy Channel.
From eleven to midnight, the Comedy Channel, cable channel 57 in Cape Girardeau and Jackson, with air one of Lewis Blacks most funny performances, "RED, WHITE & S.C.R.E.W.ED".\
Lewis Black on "Bi-Partisanship"
This is Lewis Black's stand up comedy hour that he says that "the only thing worse than a Democrat, or, a Republican, is when these "________" (rhymes with Ricks) work together."
In this memorable hour filmed in our nations Capitol, please note how Lewis Black, who is Jewish, says that his parents absolutely hate Paul Wolfowitz. I liked him before, now I like Black even more. "RED, WHITE & S.C.R.E.W.ED" is an hour of comedy that will help you ease onto sleepland, after a night of great speeches from Denver.
Don't miss Lewis Black's "RED, WHITE & S.C.R.E.W.ED"
on the comedy channel, tonight from 11pm-midnight on cable channel 57.
Red_Rhino: So you take responsibility for Bush and the Rpublicans rapid increase in spending when he first took office in 2001 before the 9/1 attacks. The largest increase since FD Roosevelt and the largest growth in entitlements since LB Johnson. This is the new Republicanism, the ism has been earned, the tax and spend party. I'll bet that outpacing Democrats was hard thing to do.
Hilleco wrote "Red_Rhino: If you voted for Bush, you are responsible for his presidency." ... And whomever voted for the current Dimocrat led Congress is responsible for the debacle that has since ensued from that post "mandate" election.
In response to your tax comment, I can only say that you must have failed economics 101 or you're just doing quick copy and pastes from the dailykos. Next subject.
pardon the fat fingers...
What does it matter how many terrorists were in Iraq? The horse has left the barn. All this woulda, coulda, shoulda BS is meaningless. If the UN would done their job, we coulda stayed our of Iraq. Bill Clinton shoulda done his job when the Cole was bombed or given the OK to kill Osama when they had him in sight, but noooooooo.....he was too busy reading the polls rather than being President. We're in the middle of a war, and it's way to late for the woulda, shoulda, coulda.
Maybe the Messiah will pull out our troops as he promised all Spring during the primaries. Oh, I forgot, he's changed his stance on that. **Giggle**
Hilleco,
I will gladly accept my responsibility for putting Bush in office.
I try not to put a dollar value on life.
While some may possess the gift of clairvoyance, I do not, so I don't know what would have happened or how much it would have cost had we gone down a different path.
It is interesting how people choose to accept some information from "Intelligence Agencies" and not others.
GALLUP Daily: McCain Takes Lead After Biden Pick...
http://www.gallup.com/...
Talk about forgetting how many houses you have:
Obama from a home in Kansas City: I'm 'here in St. Louis'...
http://www.news-leader.com/...
Oh I know. To you Liberal Pukes, that's different.
Red_Rhino: If you voted for Bush, you are responsible for his presidency. You must have forgotten about the Fourth Amendment.
The war on terror: British and French intelligence put the number of al Qaeda (forgive my spelling) at 300 to 700 at the time of 9/11, the CIA put the number at 1300. If we use the 1300 figure, that would mean that the US spent $500 million dollars for each terrorist. Don't appear to be a bargain to me. And they claim that there are more terrorists out there.
As for John Kerry: He benefits more money wise than any other Congressman off this so-called war on terror. He has $35 million invested in the Military Industrial Complex.
The Doctor seems a little upset today. **Giggle**
Tax rates according to Ben Bernanke: Producer price index rose nearly 10 percent. The consumer price index or CPI rose 5.6 percent. FED Chairman Bernanke calls these price rises taxes. The expansion of the money supply which benefits government, government contractors, and banks places a tax on the consumption of goods and services by that amount. So where have taxes been lowered by this administration, no where, not even for the rich.
Hilleco,
I guess I will just have to learn to live with your disdain. I may disagree with some of Bush's policies as mentioned by Simpleton and I certainly would have preferred a more vigorous defense of our 2nd Amendment, but compared to the alternative, I have no regrets about voting for him.
I must admit that I too am often tempted to adopt a political philosophy that has never been put into practice successfully so that I cannot be held responsible for any of my decisions and hurl insults at others for their lack of character, but I am forced to live in a world as it exists rather than one as I wish it did.
Casino not good: Big? Like the MGM Grand??? Whoopee!
Another Kubrick needed: Speilberg resurrected the Russians in the New Indiana Jones film, though not quite as "dark-comical" as Strange Love, it was nostalgic.
McCain's houses: They're not his. LOL
Autocracy survives: LOL
Caught in the cookie jar: Hmmm
Dog Days of August: Already did.
Deteriorating pool: Rapid? LOL 25 years old?? We have only two pools and now double the population. Nothing lasts forever.
Who is guide for?: You need to watch "Animal House" Yes...some people actually live a little while in college. Maybe you should too.
Problems start here: Yes yes yes!! Finally someone get's it. Crap rolls down hill. It's a proven fact. Don't believe me? Try it.
Ambulance petition: While I respect CCA for their long standing devotion (and cornered market) service, I agree. It's time for another ambulance option.
Politics and religion:
Bad news for David Limbaugh: Awww.
Housing fun: Yep, fair is fair.
The economic issues: YES!
Parent link problems: Hmmm.
SIMPLETON,
If I'm NOT mistaken...I believe Robert Erlbacher will be responsible for the recovery charges, the Coast Guard costs and for the damages to the new bridge (from the first tank roaming incident).
Great, maybe Obama will include the recovered oil tanker in his energy plan ... oh wait, he just wants us to air up our tires.
For those who are interested, KFVS is streaming the oil tank removal from the Mississippi River LIVE.
http://www.kfvs12.com/...
Our dear Clair is speaking now.
Hilleco wrote "Red_Rhino: I think that we have had a bad run of presidents. Actually I have been giving this president a free ride compared to what I gave Clinton on my former website. I do give GWs supporters low marks for defending a very unRepublican president."
By "unRepublican", I assume you're talking about the budget which has little to do with failing on his conservative principles and much to do with a broad front war. War is expensive business, and for those of us who have been there and done that, we appreciate him supporting an open wallet for defense. Or you may be talking about illegal immigration which is an issue that neither party can attain a mandate (...unfortunately).
Other than that, he's been very Republican ... he's nominated/appointed conservative judges, worked to extend tax cuts, worked to ensure no new taxes for 7+ years, supported gun owner rights, maintained a pro-life stance, supported legislation for small businesses, supported traditional marriage, and been our champion for National security. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Being right (or Right) isn't always popular, but it's still right!
Reference McCain's houses ?? LOL Who are you trying to kid? I would say they belong to Cindy Hensley McCain. After all, she does wear the financial pants in that family. *giggle*
"Did anyone see McCain on Jay Leno last night? He hit the ball out of the park."
No doubt, Leno's show is based on comedy. I'm sure he fair quite well, since McCain's such a big joke. *giggle*
Red_Rhino: I think that we have had a bad run of presidents. Actually I have been giving this president a free ride compared to what I gave Clinton on my former website. I do give GWs supporters low marks for defending a very unRepublican president.
You can write your State Representative and Senator, but most are in favor of stricter rather than more lenient laws. Like I said the other day, the Sex Offender Registration laws have been litigated to death in the Supreme Court. One of the present flaws in the present system is that what was once considered Statutory Rape is no longer as certain age requirements must now be met and that was not the case in the past, so what was considered a crime a few years ago is not any longer, but a person may still have to register. This is not unique to Missouri. Another problem is that the rules are so darned hard to understand that many in charge of registration don't know who has to and who doesn't. Of course you also have situations in which someone is arrested and charged with a sex offense, but during plea bargaining, it is reduced to Endangering the Welfare of a Child in which case no registration is required. It is all very confusing.
There is also always the option of applying for a Gubernatorial Pardon if the circumstances warrant such and if one is able to verbalize how a Pardon would eliminate obstacles placed on an individual with such a conviction. There would really have to be extenuating circumstances however. You can read about Pardon Applications/Executive clemency on the Missouri Probation and Parole website and I think you can print the form off to submit.
I am kind of working in the dark here, so hopefully I have been able to address some of your concerns.
semoangel,
Missouri representative look-up:
http://www.senate.mo.gov/...
1999 HB1405-REQUIRES CIVIL COMMITMENT OF SEXUAL PREDATORS. (Thought this might be a handy source.)
http://www.house.missouri.gov/...
Semo,
Are you wanting them stricter?
Red
this is totally off subject but thought you may be able to guide us in the right direction. Where would parents need to address letters to try and change the laws for registered sex offenders.
Would appreciate anyone who could get some info on this
Hilleco,
I must admit I know nothing of Ivy League schools or how they work. I can only judge by the Professors I have known and those in my family; if you didn't earn a grade, you didn't get it.
I suppose whether or not you support a president depends on your judgment of what is and is not proper.
Did anyone see McCain on Jay Leno last night? He hit the ball out of the park.
For the polling period 18-24 August:
Congress' approval rating = 16% (Dimocrats 22% / Republicans 21% ... Nancy Pelosi has a 31% approval rating)
President Bush's approval rating = 35%
In the last 12 months:
Favoribility ratings for the Dims dipped 1% while the Republicans gained 12%.
Red
Some folks just do not understand President Bush's self-deprecating humor. They actually believed him when he said he was stupid. giggle
Have you seen the tv and radio association yearly roast of the presidents? Republicans do just fine but dems have great problems making fun of themselves.
Red_Rhino: I didn't say that Bush didn't earn his degree. But is common to inflate the grades of powerful politicians sons and daughters.
Any president that cannot abide by and stand up for the Constituion is weak. That goes for presidents and Congressmen, and should include their supporters when their politicians cross the line without their criticism.
Don't know how important approval ratings are while someone is still in office or even several years thereafter. From what I have read Churchill and Truman were not particularly well thought of by the time they left office. And no, I am not comparing GW Bush to either, just an observation of changing times and thoughts on politicians.
And still the Dimocratic controlled Congress' approval ratings are lower than W's...
Perish the thought that W would ever run again for anything! According to the latest polls, W's rating now is lower than Nixon's. (Need I remind anyone that both were Republicans?)
Facts only confuse some people and apparently GW Bush did not earn his degree, but was rather given it by virtue of his family, or so I have been told.
Great stuff from our Dim led Congress ...
____________________________________
Source: online.wsj.com
Barring a burst of legislative activity after Labor Day, this group of 535 men and women will have accomplished a rare feat. In two decades of record keeping, no sitting Congress has passed fewer public laws at this point in the session -- 294 so far -- than this one. That's not to say they've been idle. On the flip side, no Congress in the same 20 years has been so prolific when it comes to proposing resolutions -- more than 1,900
With the mostly symbolic measures, Congress has saluted such milestones as the Idaho Potato Commission's 70th anniversary and recognized soil as an "essential natural resource." As legislation on gasoline prices, tax fixes and predatory lending languish, Congress has designated May 5-9 as National Substitute Teacher Recognition Week, and set July 28 as the Day of the American Cowboy.
____________________________________
Thanks, Mrs. Pelosi. You've really honored the 2006 "mandate" for change.
Hilleco
Have you noticed that there is another dragon on the scene for you to slay?
But I can't resist saying that Dubya made better grades than Gore or Kerry if you check the facts.
Well, looks like old Bill is acting up again. He has pouted that he doesn't like the topic he was assigned for his speaking role. He has dissed Obama on two occasions to journalists who say he is an angry man. They are the same old trash that they were in the WH. Lord have mercy....will we ever be rid of these two?
RickScaggs --
Rep = Rip -- As in, they ripped us off? I like it.
Hillco wrote "My problem with GW was not intelligence but his weakness of character. It takes a man/woman of strong character to uphold the Constitution. George just didn't have it." ... So when the Dims passed their own version of domestic spying, was that an indictment on their character? As far as President Bush's character, I would argue that it took character to lead this Country after 9-11.
Rick.Scaggs wrote "..does that make a Republican a Ripublican , or a Rep = Rip ?" ... I gotta' give you that one. Good one!
Dexterite wrote "A lot of 'simple' minded folks would vote Republican whether they watch the RNC or not,, just simple minded.And what can you expect from a 'Rust' newspaper, Democrats don't even exist." ... Yes, simple people vote Republican because we're bitter, gun totin', Bible carrying folks. Sounds like you're a speech writer for Obama. And if you want a Liberal paper, go to any one of the vast majority of our media sources.
I think that GW Bush is smart. But to use Harvard and Yale as sources to prove a politician's son as being intelligent is just plain wrong. Most universities receive plenty of grant monies by graduating a politician's son or daughter near the top of their class, and they don't necessarily have to earn that position.
My problem with GW was not intelligence but his weakness of character. It takes a man/woman of strong character to uphold the Constitution. George just didn't have it.
..does that make a Republican a Ripublican , or
a Rep = Rip ?
A lot of 'simple' minded folks would vote Republican whether they watch the RNC or not,, just simple minded.
And what can you expect from a 'Rust' newspaper, Democrats don't even exist.
Dim = Dem ... Dimocrat = Dimocrat. Just a play on words - not all Dems are Dims, but it makes the point.
...what's a Dim?